MadMoolah - DirtyDaisy.com

[Useless]

Mad Moolah is seriously lacking in ethics.

Go to Google's cache of a page which appears to be owned by someone from Mad Moolah and scroll down until you see the delightful image which reads "You Attempted to Steal a Picture You Could Have Gotten for Free at WhoringWives.com" Yes, MadMoolah is hotlinking pictures from one of their affiliates sites.

Also, they're cleverly bypassing many sites' hotlink protection by hotlinking their thumbs through Google Images. Nice trick, cocksuckers.

Proof?

WHOIS for freefacialpics.net
WHOIS for madmoolah.com
WHOIS for DirtyDaisy.com
Take notice of the address.

http://www.schnaggle.com and http://www.3xgals.com are amongst the victims.

The offending page is http: // freefacialpics . net/stb/DIRTY-DAISY-FREE.html which now redirects to Dirty Daisy's tour.

As you may imagine, I'll be killing off all of my DirtyDaisy promotional pages very soon.

[Useless]

I did some more, albeit simple, digging.

site:freefacialpics.net at Google

These asses have a bunch SE fodder pages now redirecting to DirtyDaisy.com.

How about a nice one for Raven Riley?
http://www.freefacialpics.net/stb/free-raven-riley.html
Google's cache
and another:
http://www.freefacialpics.net/stb/raven-riley-hot.html
Google's cache

and so on:
http://www.freefacialpics.net/stb/raven-riley-xxx.html
http://www.freefacialpics.net/stb/raven-riley-clip.html
http://www.freefacialpics.net/stb/raven-riley-foot.html
http://www.freefacialpics.net/stb/raven-riley-dick.html
http://freefacialpics.net/stb/FREE-R...LEY-MOVIE.html

[Greenguy]

So I guess Daisy really is dirty.
(I crack myself up)

Nice catch UW

[fr0gman]

Hmmm....

Looks like a pretty "karmicly" balanced system to me.

You mentioned that the traffic was being redirected so the only bandwidth that is used is by spiders (and the links from this site). The guy/gal that put up this page gets a little SE traffic and the image hosts get incoming links with a minimum of bandwidth load. Seems pretty fair to me. Plus the images are coming from Google's cache.

If I were going to cry foul it would be toward Google (or Yahoo or even MSN) for even having an image index in the first place.

Seems this guy found a clever way to use Google for his benefit. I have to have some respect for that, but I don;t know that I would call him a cheat, per se.

[JaceXXX]

I just want to point out, I know that script that is being used, and Smokey The Bear on gfy wrote it....

Vegas and Angel are great people who go out of their way to help anyone at any time, I forwarded them this thread, I am 100% positive this will be cleared up in the next few hours

[Useless]

Originally Posted by fr0gman

Hmmm....

Looks like a pretty "karmicly" balanced system to me.

You mentioned that the traffic was being redirected so the only bandwidth that is used is by spiders (and the links from this site). The guy/gal that put up this page gets a little SE traffic and the image hosts get incoming links with a minimum of bandwidth load. Seems pretty fair to me. Plus the images are coming from Google's cache.

If I were going to cry foul it would be toward Google (or Yahoo or even MSN) for even having an image index in the first place.

Seems this guy found a clever way to use Google for his benefit. I have to have some respect for that, but I don;t know that I would call him a cheat, per se.

Well, it seems to me that you are an ignorant cunt. Hotlinking is hotlinking. If you are too fucking stupid to see how hotlinking from anyone, let alone your own god damned affiliate, is WRONG - then I'm amazed your brain can handle the processes which keep your filthy little body alive.

They weren't just hotlinking Google Images, they were also hotlinking an image directly from my site - IDIOT.

And how do you address the abuse of Raven Riley keywords and images in order to gain traffic for Dirty Daisy, moron?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

I just want to point out, I know that script that is being used, and Smokey The Bear on gfy wrote it....

Vegas and Angel are great people who go out of their way to help anyone at any time, I forwarded them this thread, I am 100% positive this will be cleared up in the next few hours

Tick tock, tick tock. There is no clearing up to be done. All of the offending pages MUST be removed and then they may go quietly to hell. I don't care for apologies, or the standard sponsor routine of ignorance, denial and finally placing the blame upon some underling or hired help.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...All of the offending pages MUST be removed...

They were all 404 when I first read your post yesterday. The redirects you saw could have been due to a general 404 redirect like the one I use. ex: http://www.bevyofbabes.com/this-pg-doesnt-exist.html redirects to the warning page.

[JaceXXX]

wait, now I have questions

this has no images of yours, does it? http://freefacialpics.net/stb/DIRTY-DAISY-FREE.html

also, the only thing you can find is in google cache?

maybe he was doing some testing and pages got indexed?

[JaceXXX]

also, the more I check this script out, the more I realize it is automated.....it is an automated script grabbing image results from google images

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

also, the more I check this script out, the more I realize it is automated.....it is an automated script grabbing image results from google images

Ignorance (or stupidity for not knowing what the program does) is not a valid excuse.

Just ask Smashing Thumbs & the rest of the "legit" sites that used that SE spamming keyword naming page generating program (nice title, huh?) that stole traffic from every major LL & TGP out there a couple years back.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

wait, now I have questions

this has no images of yours, does it? http://freefacialpics.net/stb/DIRTY-DAISY-FREE.html

also, the only thing you can find is in google cache?

maybe he was doing some testing and pages got indexed?

Testing what, hotlinking directly from me? Google's cache is all the evidence I need. At one point, they were obviously hotlinking an image from one of my pages - NOT via Google Image results - which is still wrong. Lazy bastards. Google's cache quite clearly displays their attempt to hotlink the image at this URL. They had that linked to my image, not to the gallery page itself. No surfer would ever see my page, just my stolen image.

Whether or not they altered the page to no longer hotlink my image is neither here nor there. A page of theirs remains live which robs me of SE traffic. I'm not going into detail because I don't want to teach this trick to more theiving bastards.

[JaceXXX]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Testing what, hotlinking directly from me? Google's cache is all the evidence I need. At one point, they were obviously hotlinking an image from one of my pages - NOT via Google Image results - which is still wrong. Lazy bastards. Google's cache quite clearly displays their attempt to hotlink the image at this URL.

Whether or not they altered the page to no longer hotlink my image is neither here nor there. A page of theirs remains live which robs me of SE traffic. I'm not going into detail because I don't want to teach this trick to more theiving bastards.

Actually, SmokeyTheBear on GFY is selling copies of this script on gfy, calling "Blackhat SEO Script", I think Blake was playing it for a while and never really did anything with it...he is asleep now though, so I won't speak for him, but I truely beleive this was something he played with for a while and never developed anything

if he is someone you have been working with in the past, why not go to him first and figure it out?

if you look at the url, it even says stb as the directory, so I know for a fact this was just him playing with shit

also, check out the other results
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%...e7&rlz=1I7GGLJ

they ALL 404 now, so it very well could have been him playing with the script during a google update, the pages got cached and indexed, and he pulled it all down a week later

I am not making excuses for him, but I KNOW Vegas is a good guy, and with the recent events that have happened to him and Angel, the LAST thing he would EVER do to anyone is fuck anyone over or be shady

[Useless]

Jeezy Creezy pudding pie! I've never heard of SmokeyTheBear and certainly have never worked with him and I'm not sure why you'd assume that I had.

The offending domain is registered to the same address as MadMoolah.com and DirtyDaisy.com. They are at fault. Therefore, they've lost my 10 hits per day.

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

they ALL 404 now, so it very well could have been him playing with the script during a google update, the pages got cached and indexed, and he pulled it all down a week later

And 404ing to their own Dirty Daisy promotional page is a good thing, when they are using the name "Raven Riley" as their primary keyword phrase on many of those pages?

I don't know Vegas and Angel and I don't know about their personal lives. I know that their site has been juggled from sponsor to sponsor and I know that I signed up to promote them back when they were still just CCBill. Any page I have promoting them was built before they started the juggling process and I've had to change the linking codes a couple of times, though I've never once received any warning that they were changing programs. Always had to figure it out on my own.

BTW - I don't post at GFY, nor do I bathe in a mixture of shit and vomit, so please don't assume that I know everything the surfmasters at GFY know.

[JaceXXX]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I've never heard of SmokeyTheBear and certainly have never worked with him and I'm not sure why you'd assume that I had.

now, come on, where did you see my saying that? I was just informing you, after you had said you don't want info to get out, that a user on gfy was selling a script that did this to hundreds of people

[Useless]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

now, come on, where did you see my saying that? I was just informing you, after you had said you don't want info to get out, that a user on gfy was selling a script that did this to hundreds of people

That's what I'm getting from this statement:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

if he is someone you have been working with in the past, why not go to him first and figure it out?

Are we to continue arguing this nonsense or what? I don't see where you even figure into this picture.

SOMEONE from MadMoolah clearly hotlinked my image, abused my domain name in the process, and used another much more popular personality's name in order to steal SE traffic. If you keep playing this squirrelly game of half-ass defending them, I'm going to have to tell you to fuck yourself - because I really don't have time for this shit. I could be watching tv!

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...I've never once received any warning that they were changing programs. Always had to figure it out on my own.

I *did* receive notice on the change last May. I wasn't an affiliate when the site was CCBill, so I can't speak to that one. But either way, WTF does that have to do with the current topic at hand?

I don't know Angel & Vegas as well as Jace, but I find it very difficult to beleive that they'd do anything deliberately deceptive.

[JaceXXX]

fine then, I thought we were just having a little discussion, obviously you were arguing.....later

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

...I forwarded them this thread, I am 100% positive this will be cleared up in the next few hours

I say we wait to see what they have to say & then we can go from there, because all anyone is doing in here (myself included) is speculating.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Toby

I don't know Angel & Vegas as well as Jace, but I find it very difficult to beleive that they'd do anything deliberately deceptive.

Must have been the ghost which haunts MadMoolah's office.

Am I imagining all of this? Am I lying? It could be my unbalanced and unmedicated paranoia, but every time someone defends the people, or the actions of the people who have cheated me, I feel like I'm the one being accused of the wrong-doing. This may call for a group hug in order for me to regain my bearing.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...Am I imagining all of this? Am I lying?...

No, I don't think you're imagining it or lying. My past experience with Angel and Vegas just makes me think there's most likely a reasonable explanation.

[MM-Vegas]

I’m not here to give a “standardized” sponsor answer, but simply to tell you what happened, whether you chose to take that at face value is your choice since it’s obvious that you have an issue with us and our program…which incidentally was sold Dirty Daisy back in March of last year so how was it our responsibility to notify you that we had been sold the site? I would imagine the selling party would have e-mailed you, and know for a fact that they did send out a standardized e-mail as it ended up on the boards a week later.

Anyhow back to the point at hand, yes this was an seo script that is the same script being sold by STB on GFY. I was attempting to make use of the script and after a week or two of playing with it found I neither had the time nor energy to make it work correctly. However, since you seem not to know what this script is, it automatically will build a page depending on what a surfer types in, if someone types in Raven it will pull from googles images pictures of raven that, when clicked on, will go to the image themselves. If your image was linked to it was done so because it was indexed in Google’s images.

I had intended to make some use of the script through more research but have found, as I stated above, I neither have the time nor energy to play with it and tweak it to work correctly and have pulled it from my server. Cached pages…well I can do nothing about those. Anyhow it’s obvious that you are not going to be satisfied with any explanation given but there it is.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by MM-Vegas

Anyhow it’s obvious that you are not going to be satisfied with any explanation given but there it is.

How about a fucking apology, you hotlinking cocksucker?

All you've explained is that you are an irresponsible fucking idiot. I had no issue with your program until I discovered that you were attempting to HOTLINK AN IMAGE DIRECTLY FROM MY SITE. I may be able to get beyond you hotlinking images from Google, but you were quite clearly hotlinking an image from my site. http://www.uselesswarrior.com/dirtydaisy-source.gif Look at your code:

<img src="http://www.whoringwives.com/real_wives/dirty_daisy/hardcore_fucking/images/dirty_daisy_10.jpg" alt="DIRTY DAISY FREE" OnError=this.src="http://freefacialpics.net/stb/error.jpg">

Originally Posted by Toby

My past experience with Angel and Vegas just makes me think there's most likely a reasonable explanation.

Was that the reasonable explanation you were hoping for? Would you, if it were you, consider that to be acceptable?

[MM-Vegas]

UW, the image that is hotlinked is pulled by the script from a google search done by the script, everything to the script is automated after it has been set up correctly. I do apologize that this image was hotlinked by the script, it is obvious that I was not intentionally doing this to harm anyone otherwise the script would still be up and running don't you think?

[JaceXXX]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I don't care for apologies

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

How about a fucking apology

LOL, make up your mind

it was an honest mistake man, he gave you a perfectly reasonable response....anyone looking in with an unbiased view would think you might be making a little more out of this than necessary