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Old 2009-06-08, 11:05 PM   #1
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Elitedollars is refusing to pay me

Just wanted to share an experience with fellow webmasters:

After well over a year since I signed up with Elitedollars, I finally passed the $100.00 min payout. I built freesites promoting them, and I thought some of my hard work was paying off a bit...

But I was wrong...when a few weeks passed and I did not get paid, I sent an inquiry to "vipesh", and that person forwarded my request to Mitza Malli. Five more days passed, and I heard nothing. I tried to check my account and my login info no longer worked. I followed up with Mitzi and got this:

"your account has been banned for fraud"

They have not responded to my email asking about this so called fraud.

So this is how it works, eh...I build sites, send them traffic, get signups, and they avoid paying me by making some bullshit fraud claim??? No warning, no negotiation, no nothing...they just cut me off from my account and my money.

There was no wrong doing on my part, and they are refusing to pay me money I legitimately earned.

Times are tough, but when sponsors stop paying out money to their affiliates offering nothing but a terse, one sentence accusation, there's something very wrong.

There's lots of good sponsors out there as I've come to learn in my two years in this biz, but now I know first hand there are those who will FUCK YOU.

Damn shame...
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Old 2009-06-09, 12:37 AM   #2
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I believe DeeCash owns EliteDollars now. They own many programs.

Also...it appears they are involved with some mainstream projects as well:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_First_P...dit_card_offer

*cough* *cough*

Sorry to see you get hurt from this, but rest assured your post will lkely cost them more than $100...

I do believe in letting them have their say though...I hope sincerely that they will pay you.
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Old 2009-06-09, 12:47 AM   #3
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It is a damn shame.
Anyone who knows you knows you are not a cheat.
I've never understood the short sightedness some program owners have when it comes to giving payment when payment is due.

Do they think we don't talk to each other

Fuck'em.

Snivelling out of a $100 debt can cost thousands to a program when the people who provide most of their income find out about it.

Be thankful they don't owe you more, and if you have a list handy of sites you've subbed to me promoting them I'd be glad to delete them.

I'd bet the signup codes still work on all of them so even though they claim fraud, they'll still get their share.

Bastards.
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Old 2009-06-09, 01:02 AM   #4
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I think that this is all just a big mistake Luscious. Sorry about that. Knowing you and starting the biz around the same time.

I hope things get resolved.
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Old 2009-06-09, 01:21 AM   #5
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I had a fucker do that shit to me in 98 or 99. I was pissed to no end. I'm still pissed about it. Unless they pay you, Elite Dollars will never see a single hit from me.
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Old 2009-06-09, 07:23 AM   #6
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Be thankful they don't owe you more, and if you have a list handy of sites you've subbed to me promoting them I'd be glad to delete them.

I'd bet the signup codes still work on all of them so even though they claim fraud, they'll still get their share.
Yep, I'm going to get this together and post. I will leave the sites up on my end, but I sure as hell don't want to send them more traffic.
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Old 2009-06-09, 07:25 AM   #7
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I believe DeeCash owns EliteDollars now. They own many programs.


Deecash/BGB/MilfCash/TXC/MeatCash/
Elitedollars/JSA/Ragecash/ExtremePaychecks
STFUCash

I too would like to know what they base their claim on...
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Old 2009-06-09, 07:29 AM   #8
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...Unless they pay you, Elite Dollars will never see a single hit from me.
Why wait? This is just one more incedent of many. Do a search on this and many other boards for threads regarding Dee's evil empire.

All of those programs have been on my banned sponsor list for quite some time.
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Old 2009-06-09, 08:27 AM   #9
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I had similar story with RageCash, another Dee's program, and whats interesting I've been using revshare links only.
My account has been finally unbanned but I was told noone left message why it was banned and naturally I didn't get the money they owed me before account has been reactivated
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Old 2009-06-09, 12:08 PM   #10
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According to deecash.com/v/ , these are their 18 programs.

BadGirlBucks.com
CamSpotCash.com
EliteDollars.com
EpicCash.com
ExtremePaychecks.com
JasonAndAlex.com
JoinRightNow.com
MayorsMoney.com
MeatCash.com
MilfCash.com
NichedSites.com
PureMeds.com
RageCash.com
Rude.com
STFUCash.com
StiffyCash.com
TripleXCash.com
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Old 2009-06-09, 01:06 PM   #11
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Ugh...the ads on the sites I built are re-directing to:
Code:
http://secure.allelitepass.com/spam.html
Here's a list of sites I built. If you have them listed, you might want to de-list them now. I might swap out the content and ads, but really I think my time might be better spent building new sites

Code:
http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsaug08/eliteblacklez/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsaug08/eliteblack2lez/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsapr08/cockjerk2teens/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsapr08/cockjerkteens/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fs2009/feb09/elitehandjob/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fs2009/feb09/elitehandjobr/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsdec07/bigcock_1/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsdec07/bigcock_4/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsdec07/bigcock_3/

http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsdec07/bigcock_2/
a lot of work down the shitter...oh well, live and learn.
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Old 2009-06-09, 01:43 PM   #12
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Seriously now...

With all the intelligence of NAT's and access logs. They can find out whats up with these sales.
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Old 2009-06-09, 01:44 PM   #13
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thats too bad LD. I hope it gets wrinkled out. I know most of their reps hang out at the zoo you may get a faster reply there or at least a fire lit under their asses.
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Old 2009-06-09, 01:55 PM   #14
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.....Here's a list of sites I built. If you have them listed, you might want to de-list them now. I might swap out the content and ads, but really I think my time might be better spent building new sites

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In this case I have NO PROBLEM with changing ads , links and content ( only if fits to Title and Description of course ) . Why you want send those fuckers free traffic ?

I leave your fs active.
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In this case I have NO PROBLEM with changing ads , links and content ( only if fits to Title and Description of course ) . Why you want send those fuckers free traffic ?

I leave your fs active.
Thanks...

Jester, I'm not sure what the "zoo" is...
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Old 2009-06-09, 02:01 PM   #16
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Ah yes, I've been there...the home of the 1024x500 sig banners...
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In this case I have NO PROBLEM with changing ads , links and content ( only if fits to Title and Description of course ) . Why you want send those fuckers free traffic ?

I leave your fs active.
Same here LD.
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Old 2009-06-09, 03:08 PM   #19
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I've been cleaning up the links at Cleo's Links and sadly the most removed sites from my LL's database has been my own sites due to dead/redirecting sponsor ads on my free sites.
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Old 2009-06-10, 12:09 AM   #20
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first of all this is the first time I heard about this... I have not been contacted till today...
thanks to Leroy...who showed me this thread

Looking into the matter right now...
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Old 2009-06-10, 12:28 AM   #21
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Your account has been unbanned... I will find out exactly what happened... as for paying out affiliates?

1. We always do
2. On time
3. 24/7 Webmaster Support

You dont need a webmaster board to get in touch with me...
I am your personal account rep from now on...

My name is Nick B , VP of sales at all our programs..
If anyone has any problems with our programs/payouts etc etc.. PLEASE DO contact me and thing will be solved so fast you can spend your time on building up traffic again...
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Old 2009-06-10, 12:33 AM   #22
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Now a little something about elitedollars:

Contact Page:
http://elitedollars.com/external.php?page=contactus

Elitedollars has been one of the fastest programs ever since we took it over from jason!
- Expanding to new niches
- Weekly exclusive updates
- Program of one of the best and fastest growing celeb paysites called bannedcelebs...
- We ALWAYS Pay!

Some of the top webmasters in the industry push elitedollars with GREAT success!
If anyone need any references from WELL KNOWN webmasters I would be more than happy to provide this...
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Old 2009-06-10, 05:36 AM   #23
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unfortunately, IT DID HAPPEN. I dont think LD came here to spout off about false accusations. So what sucks is that a honest webmaster - as far as I know - was accused of fraud and withheld payment. So now what?
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Your account has been unbanned... I will find out exactly what happened... as for paying out affiliates?

1. We always do
2. On time
3. 24/7 Webmaster Support

You dont need a webmaster board to get in touch with me...
I am your personal account rep from now on...

My name is Nick B , VP of sales at all our programs..
If anyone has any problems with our programs/payouts etc etc.. PLEASE DO contact me and thing will be solved so fast you can spend your time on building up traffic again...
Thank you for unbanning my account and responding in this thread. I did change the linking codes on the sites in question, so now I will need to change them back.

I think I allowed plenty of time to get this resolved before I posted publically. I went over the $100 min on 5-6-09, and after doing an inquiry I only rec'd a one sentence email saying I was banned for fraud. When I tried to get additional info, I got nothing.

I am not one to flame or participate in board drama...I'm usually here asking questions about technical stuff...but I take the word "fraud" very seriously as I am trying to grow my business and reputation, and i wanted to share what had happened with other webmasters.

I appreciate your getting this resolved.
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Old 2009-06-10, 08:30 AM   #25
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Thank you for unbanning my account and responding in this thread. I did change the linking codes on the sites in question, so now I will need to change them back.

I think I allowed plenty of time to get this resolved before I posted publically. I went over the $100 min on 5-6-09, and after doing an inquiry I only rec'd a one sentence email saying I was banned for fraud. When I tried to get additional info, I got nothing.

I am not one to flame or participate in board drama...I'm usually here asking questions about technical stuff...but I take the word "fraud" very seriously as I am trying to grow my business and reputation, and i wanted to share what had happened with other webmasters.

I appreciate your getting this resolved.

Checked your links:
http://www.lusciousdelights.com/fsdec07/bigcock_1/
Everything is working properly right now, I will make sure you get paid ASAP....

I moved your account under my personal accounts as well..

Nick@elitedollars.com
ICQ: 400575417

Feel free to contact me anytime..
We always pay, never cheat... And I am always available for everyone for any of our programs for any problem at all

Again sorry for the inconvenience..
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