P2P networks traffic in 2005

guestcam · 2005-11-03, 06:16 PM

I was just wondering if anyone out there has tried putting stills or clips of their content out on the P2P networks and how that worked out for you in getting traffic.

Was it worth your time? Or what made you stop using Peer to peer ?

Which of the P2P networks did you use and how did they compare? (if you could tell which p2p caused what visits which I dont even know if thats possible)

And lastly, What tips would you share with this forum on how to set up that station which is online to the P2P networks? ie what things did you need to do for securing everything else that you didnt want shared. or could you run more than one P2P at a time while your machine was in share mode. things of that nature.

thanks in advance to your replies
H

romeoboi · 2005-11-03, 09:25 PM

I wonder if any of the guys from gallery traffic service and P2P ads hang out around here and could give us some info...

Greenguy · 2005-11-03, 09:55 PM

Yeah - that's smart - teach more surfers how to avoid out sites & our ads

guestcam · 2005-11-04, 02:38 AM

well I didnt mean IN PLACE of using link lists of course.........

KG Gary · 2005-11-04, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Yeah - that's smart - teach more surfers how to avoid out sites & our ads

I agree.
Using P2P networks a branding exercise could be a good idea - to get your name out there, but in my opinion that's about it.

mist · 2005-11-04, 04:22 AM

I think that traffic from any P2P network would convert rather poorly, since I believe that 90% of all users of the P2P networks are basically people looking for free software, music & porn, not the kind of people that would gladly slide their CC out to you.

Mist

KG Gary · 2005-11-04, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mist

I think that traffic from any P2P network would convert rather poorly, since I believe that 90% of all users of the P2P networks are basically people looking for free software, music & porn, not the kind of people that would gladly slide their CC out to you.

Mist

Agreed.
Also you have to consider the high number of P2P network users that aren't even old enough to pay for anything.

BlackCrayon · 2005-11-04, 02:38 PM

people are making some good money off it apparently. its the drm technology that i don't understand myself. i wouldn't say it teaches people to avoid sites. there will always be clips on p2p programs, might as well try to make some money off them. tho yes, the conversion rates are pretty shitty, like spam its a numbers game basically. so many people view the clips eventually someone will buy. but its costly to set up and unless you know your way around drm you're gonna have to get someone to help you.

GUNNER · 2005-11-04, 03:03 PM

I think it should be used as a tool to drive traffic, but not as a replacement for content delivery.

Halfdeck · 2005-11-04, 03:45 PM

I used to use P2P. The thing that made me stop is the amount of badly-named files, duplicate video clips, unpredictable video quality and sloooooooooow download speed. I prefer renting DVDs or buying them in bulk and reselling them to downloading any video off p2p.

guestcam · 2005-11-06, 05:36 PM

ok well I went and setup a limewire machine and posted several short mpgs with our url on it. Talking about watching paint dry! hehehe, I dont know why I expected to see instant results, but there I was checking each hour for that first download;-)

time will tell............thanks to all who posted
h

Allfetish · 2005-11-10, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KG Gary

I agree.
Using P2P networks a branding exercise could be a good idea - to get your name out there, but in my opinion that's about it.

Yes, there is a problem with it too. Anyone who does sign up - you know they use p2p obviously. Now will they share out all the movies in your members area?!!? (lot of good the advertisements there would do after that) You'd almost have to use DRM and many hate that and won't sign up if they know about it.

guestcam · 2005-11-10, 07:13 PM

which is why I would NOT post a url that has movie content. Live webcams with chat - thats what I am advertising. Sure they can capture it, but what does that matter to me. The quality from a screen cap wont be that good and I cant resell it anyway since I am not recording it for such use.

What I am already noticing, but have yet to learn how to do for myself- is that there are a lot of files that reappear in search after search NO MATTER WHAT KEYWORDS I use!?!?!

How do those guys get THAT done??? Now we're talking real marketing secrets.

Allfetish · 2005-11-10, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guestcam

ok well I went and setup a limewire machine and posted several short mpgs with our url on it. Talking about watching paint dry! hehehe, I dont know why I expected to see instant results, but there I was checking each hour for that first download;-)

time will tell............thanks to all who posted
h

There are a few things that work against you, especially if you are going to use DRM or misleading filenames.

1. Some p2p networks use rating systems where users can just inform others that it is just an ad or uses DRM.

2. Sources shown in searches are often listed in order of popularity with the most commonly shared files first. This means that it can take time to get a lot of hits.

3. Depending on how you do things, it can be obvious you are just foing ads. as an example when doing a search if a user sees your IP or a group of five ips sharing files that all seem the same exact filesize, they are going to be suspicious.

2005-11-03, 06:16 PM	#1
guestcam Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: los angeles south bay Posts: 134	P2P networks traffic in 2005 I was just wondering if anyone out there has tried putting stills or clips of their content out on the P2P networks and how that worked out for you in getting traffic. Was it worth your time? Or what made you stop using Peer to peer ? Which of the P2P networks did you use and how did they compare? (if you could tell which p2p caused what visits which I dont even know if thats possible) And lastly, What tips would you share with this forum on how to set up that station which is online to the P2P networks? ie what things did you need to do for securing everything else that you didnt want shared. or could you run more than one P2P at a time while your machine was in share mode. things of that nature. thanks in advance to your replies H

2005-11-03, 09:25 PM	#2
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2005-11-03, 09:55 PM	#3
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2005-11-04, 03:03 PM	#9
GUNNER If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 33	I think it should be used as a tool to drive traffic, but not as a replacement for content delivery. __________________

2005-11-04, 03:45 PM	#10
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	I used to use P2P. The thing that made me stop is the amount of badly-named files, duplicate video clips, unpredictable video quality and sloooooooooow download speed. I prefer renting DVDs or buying them in bulk and reselling them to downloading any video off p2p. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.

2005-11-04, 02:38 AM	#4
guestcam Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: los angeles south bay Posts: 134	well I didnt mean IN PLACE of using link lists of course.........

2005-11-04, 04:22 AM	#6
mist Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: EU Posts: 214	I think that traffic from any P2P network would convert rather poorly, since I believe that 90% of all users of the P2P networks are basically people looking for free software, music & porn, not the kind of people that would gladly slide their CC out to you. Mist

2005-11-04, 02:38 PM	#8
BlackCrayon Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ottawa Posts: 20	people are making some good money off it apparently. its the drm technology that i don't understand myself. i wouldn't say it teaches people to avoid sites. there will always be clips on p2p programs, might as well try to make some money off them. tho yes, the conversion rates are pretty shitty, like spam its a numbers game basically. so many people view the clips eventually someone will buy. but its costly to set up and unless you know your way around drm you're gonna have to get someone to help you.

2005-11-06, 05:36 PM	#11
guestcam Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: los angeles south bay Posts: 134	ok well I went and setup a limewire machine and posted several short mpgs with our url on it. Talking about watching paint dry! hehehe, I dont know why I expected to see instant results, but there I was checking each hour for that first download;-) time will tell............thanks to all who posted h

2005-11-10, 07:13 PM	#13
guestcam Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: los angeles south bay Posts: 134	which is why I would NOT post a url that has movie content. Live webcams with chat - thats what I am advertising. Sure they can capture it, but what does that matter to me. The quality from a screen cap wont be that good and I cant resell it anyway since I am not recording it for such use. What I am already noticing, but have yet to learn how to do for myself- is that there are a lot of files that reappear in search after search NO MATTER WHAT KEYWORDS I use!?!?! How do those guys get THAT done??? Now we're talking real marketing secrets.