GreenguyandJim Fighting Zango

Greenguy · 2006-10-24, 10:58 AM

~Fighting Zango ~

With all the talk about Zango these past few weeks, I think the best offense is a great defence. And to me, education of the surfer is the key.

I have come up with a page that both will scare the surfer and explain how to get rid of this software. I also have an htaccess file that will detect Zango users and redirect them to this page.

I need to let you know that this page is only way to help the surfers clean their PCs. There are not nor will there ever be any ads on this page. And, it will always be there for your surfers. You really have nothing to lose...you won't make any money from these surfers anyway.

Here is the url for the page I created...
http://www.adwaresucks.com/zango/

And the htaccess file can be found here...
http://www.adwaresucks.com/zango/zangohtaccess.txt

You may use this if you would like. We have tested it and it appears to be working very well.

As more of these adware/spyware products surface that will take money from webmasters and programs alike, I will make a new directory, page and htaccess file.

I hope all of this helps.
Jim

Licker4U · 2006-10-24, 11:32 AM

Is that htaccess a seperate line under what I already have in place or is some of it to be slipped in along with what's already there?

Greenguy · 2006-10-24, 11:56 AM

I put it 1 space under what I already had in there & it seems to be working fine.

RedCherry · 2006-10-24, 12:15 PM

Thanks Greenie, just put that on all my LL domains. Sucks they we have to do that to keep them from stealing traffic.

Jim · 2006-10-24, 12:16 PM

After looking at the stats with Greenie, we calculated that he had about .15% of his traffic sent to the page over about a 24 hour period.

So, out of 2000 people going to link-o-rama, 3 were infected with zango.

While some people are afraid to lose anyone from their site, the percentage is tiny. And as I said in a previous thread, if these 3 people out of the 2000 grouping remained on link-o-rama, they would have had a zango popup show up and would have blamed Greenie, not zango. If these were loyal bookmarkers, he most likely would have lost them.

ponygirl · 2006-10-24, 12:17 PM

nice job

I hope it will make a difference if enough of us use it

Simon · 2006-10-24, 02:12 PM

I have the htaccess code added on xratedtv now and I'll be adding it to our other feeder domains this week.

I kind of doubt that most Windows users are comfortable doing the things the "infected" page tells them they need to do. And some won't do it based on it being a porn site that tells them to do it (LOR and others with loyal surfers being the exceptions).

My guess is a good percentage will bail when they read what they need to do, and just go hunt some porn. But I think Ponygirl's point is right. If that surfer sees it happen to him again and again on enough sites he'd like to visit, it may make the difference.

So we really do need to get this message out to a lot of webmasters if we want it to have a marked effect. The adwaresucks domain certainly is fine for mainstream sites to use the message there too.

Jim · 2006-10-24, 02:21 PM

We are actually working on some other things right now. There is another nasty piece of software coming down the road that makes zango look like a walk in the park.

We are coming up with a new htaccess code that will allow surfers to just go back to your site without being sent back to the page.

We are talking about quite a few things that will help all of us.

Greenguy · 2006-10-24, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

...I kind of doubt that most Windows users are comfortable doing the things the "infected" page tells them they need to do. And some won't do it based on it being a porn site that tells them to do it (LOR and others with loyal surfers being the exceptions).

My guess is a good percentage will bail when they read what they need to do, and just go hunt some porn. But I think Ponygirl's point is right. If that surfer sees it happen to him again and again on enough sites he'd like to visit, it may make the difference...

Even if they ignore it, at least we tried

digifan · 2006-10-24, 03:29 PM

Posted it at the askdamagex board as quotation from the newsletter

Link can be found here, big tgp owners also have a lot to lose if they don't fight them...
http://www.askdamagex.com/showthread...116#post101116

rachelo · 2006-10-24, 03:44 PM

All this technical stuff, I wish I knew more.

So if I want to add the. htaccess file to my domain, just copy the text Greenie provided and add it to my existing file?

Is that it?

JustRobert · 2006-10-24, 03:46 PM

I believe this is now the main thread so I will post on this one.

Should the following line: "Zango is attempting to monitor user activities on your computer. If allowed it may try to track or log keystrokes (user input), mouse movements/clicks, Web sites visited, and other user behaviors." be set in a different color than black. This is the selling point of the page to me and a bolder color would help draw attention of the surfer to it visually as well. Since most people only do quick scans.

Just a thought.

Greenguy · 2006-10-24, 04:07 PM

Hold Off On Everything!

Sparky is working on a little customizable interface for this - we should have a better version in time for the Radio Show.

kenny · 2006-10-24, 04:33 PM

What about spybot?

Does that remove Zango?

Toby · 2006-10-24, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeper

What about spybot?

Does that remove Zango?

Zango *is* in the list of items that SpyBot detects.

kenny · 2006-10-24, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby

Zango *is* in the list of items that SpyBot detects.

Ok then why not just inform the surfer that spyware has been detected on their computer and have them download spybot?

Since spybot regularly updates and will remove the other big parasites as well.

That way you don't have to worry about instructing the surfer on how to remove adware manually

Greenguy · 2006-10-24, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeper

Ok then why not just inform the surfer that spyware has been detected on their computer and have them download spybot?....

The problem (aside from the fact that it'd look like we were trying to make money off some removal program) is that all the removal programs Jim looked into also removed a lot of other things, like cookies (buh-bye CCBill transactions) so as of right now, the best thing we can think of is to tell people how to remove it by hand.

But Jim is working on finding a program that will just remove Zango (and any others that we come across) without getting rid of everything else that the removal programs deem "issues"

Jim · 2006-10-24, 06:33 PM

Well, we have something. It's not pretty but it does do the job.
It will now allow your own css file, will return surfers that don't uninstall zango and even builds you your own htaccess file.
http://adwaresucks.com/webmasters/

I just want you guys to be on the cutting edge. It will be pretty within a day or two.

MrYum · 2006-10-24, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Well, we have something. It's not pretty but it does do the job.
It will now allow your own css file, will return surfers that don't uninstall zango and even builds you your own htaccess file.
http://adwaresucks.com/webmasters/

I just want you guys to be on the cutting edge. It will be pretty within a day or two.

Well done Greenie and Jim...and Sparky too of course

johnnybg · 2006-10-25, 04:29 AM

It's great to see we are fighting this menace. For years they are stealing sales from us, it's time to act.

Excellent stuff!!!

darksoul · 2006-10-25, 05:56 AM

giving credits where its due would be nice
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=667179

eman · 2006-10-25, 05:57 AM

Good work chaps

Jim · 2006-10-25, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul

giving credits where its due would be nice
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=667179

darksoul
If I saw that, I probably would have asked you to work together with us. Good Job. But, I really don't go to GFY very often. I went there yesterday because I saw someone on a different board copied a post from GFY with my name in it. Otherwise, you might see me there twice/month when I get bored.

As I told everyone yesterday, steal our page and do what you want with it. The important thing is to get the word out.

I am almost positive that you didn't hear our radio show last night but we are turning adwaresucks.com into a scumware fighting machine. We are setting it up to read a pc to check for any scumware and will redirect to the proper instructions no matter what they have installed. The nearest count is 450 of these programs running right now. And some of them using cookie stuffing that makes zango look like nothing.

I just read your thread and I noticed that your page was not welcomed with open arms. I think you and I are on the same page. Informing the surfer about any of these programs is key in fighting it.

I see that you are sending people away from your page to software that is going to remove cookies as well as zanga. You probably should rethink that...without cookies, you have no ccbill sales.

Anyway, nice work and if you have any ideas for adwaresucks, let me know.

Jim · 2006-10-25, 08:04 AM

Oh yeah, I see Lars said it was about .5 percent of surfers with zango. We will have real numbers later today. But, we have seen sites with up to 4 percent infected. But, that was Lars, he seems to be fighting for the other side.

eman · 2006-10-25, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Oh yeah, I see Lars said it was about .5 percent of surfers with zango. We will have real numbers later today. But, we have seen sites with up to 4 percent infected. But, that was Lars, he seems to be fighting for the other side.

Reading Lars' latest promotional thread on GFY, and the seemingly (unseemly) unanimous roars of approval, you'd be hard pressed to imagine that there were sides.

2006-10-24, 10:58 AM	#1
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,778	GreenguyandJim Fighting Zango ~Fighting Zango ~ With all the talk about Zango these past few weeks, I think the best offense is a great defence. And to me, education of the surfer is the key. I have come up with a page that both will scare the surfer and explain how to get rid of this software. I also have an htaccess file that will detect Zango users and redirect them to this page. I need to let you know that this page is only way to help the surfers clean their PCs. There are not nor will there ever be any ads on this page. And, it will always be there for your surfers. You really have nothing to lose...you won't make any money from these surfers anyway. Here is the url for the page I created... http://www.adwaresucks.com/zango/ And the htaccess file can be found here... http://www.adwaresucks.com/zango/zangohtaccess.txt You may use this if you would like. We have tested it and it appears to be working very well. As more of these adware/spyware products surface that will take money from webmasters and programs alike, I will make a new directory, page and htaccess file. I hope all of this helps. Jim __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-10-24, 11:56 AM	#3
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,778	I put it 1 space under what I already had in there & it seems to be working fine. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-10-24, 12:15 PM	#4
RedCherry Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Middle of the Desert, Pahrump, NV Posts: 3,187	Thanks Greenie, just put that on all my LL domains. Sucks they we have to do that to keep them from stealing traffic. __________________ Our 3D Comics and Props on Renderotica

2006-10-24, 12:17 PM	#6
ponygirl on vacation Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,095	nice job I hope it will make a difference if enough of us use it __________________ Submit Your Porn I do CSS coding Hosting - JMB Scripts - Tube Site Resources

2006-10-24, 02:12 PM	#7
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	I have the htaccess code added on xratedtv now and I'll be adding it to our other feeder domains this week. I kind of doubt that most Windows users are comfortable doing the things the "infected" page tells them they need to do. And some won't do it based on it being a porn site that tells them to do it (LOR and others with loyal surfers being the exceptions). My guess is a good percentage will bail when they read what they need to do, and just go hunt some porn. But I think Ponygirl's point is right. If that surfer sees it happen to him again and again on enough sites he'd like to visit, it may make the difference. So we really do need to get this message out to a lot of webmasters if we want it to have a marked effect. The adwaresucks domain certainly is fine for mainstream sites to use the message there too. __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka

2006-10-24, 11:32 AM	#2
Licker4U Mean people suck, nice people swallow, are you mean or nice? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lower Alabama-The Redneck Riviera Posts: 2,376	Is that htaccess a seperate line under what I already have in place or is some of it to be slipped in along with what's already there?

2006-10-24, 12:16 PM	#5
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	After looking at the stats with Greenie, we calculated that he had about .15% of his traffic sent to the page over about a 24 hour period. So, out of 2000 people going to link-o-rama, 3 were infected with zango. While some people are afraid to lose anyone from their site, the percentage is tiny. And as I said in a previous thread, if these 3 people out of the 2000 grouping remained on link-o-rama, they would have had a zango popup show up and would have blamed Greenie, not zango. If these were loyal bookmarkers, he most likely would have lost them.

2006-10-24, 02:21 PM	#8
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	We are actually working on some other things right now. There is another nasty piece of software coming down the road that makes zango look like a walk in the park. We are coming up with a new htaccess code that will allow surfers to just go back to your site without being sent back to the page. We are talking about quite a few things that will help all of us.

2006-10-24, 03:29 PM	#10
digifan ...and since we know an end will come it makes our living so much fun Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In your dreams, baby Posts: 3,835	Posted it at the askdamagex board as quotation from the newsletter Link can be found here, big tgp owners also have a lot to lose if they don't fight them... http://www.askdamagex.com/showthread...116#post101116 __________________ Webair Rocks

2006-10-24, 03:44 PM	#11
rachelo Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 205	All this technical stuff, I wish I knew more. So if I want to add the. htaccess file to my domain, just copy the text Greenie provided and add it to my existing file? Is that it?

2006-10-24, 03:46 PM	#12
JustRobert Bow Ties Are Cool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 9,390	I believe this is now the main thread so I will post on this one. Should the following line: "Zango is attempting to monitor user activities on your computer. If allowed it may try to track or log keystrokes (user input), mouse movements/clicks, Web sites visited, and other user behaviors." be set in a different color than black. This is the selling point of the page to me and a bolder color would help draw attention of the surfer to it visually as well. Since most people only do quick scans. Just a thought. __________________ Submit Your Galleries To The Porn Luv Network!

2006-10-24, 04:07 PM	#13
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,778	Hold Off On Everything! Sparky is working on a little customizable interface for this - we should have a better version in time for the Radio Show. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-10-24, 04:33 PM	#14
kenny No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 233	What about spybot? Does that remove Zango? __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2006-10-24, 06:33 PM	#18
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Well, we have something. It's not pretty but it does do the job. It will now allow your own css file, will return surfers that don't uninstall zango and even builds you your own htaccess file. http://adwaresucks.com/webmasters/ I just want you guys to be on the cutting edge. It will be pretty within a day or two.

2006-10-25, 04:29 AM	#20
johnnybg I want to set the record straight - I thought the cop was a prostitute Join Date: May 2004 Location: Serbia & Montenegro Posts: 292	It's great to see we are fighting this menace. For years they are stealing sales from us, it's time to act. Excellent stuff!!! __________________ Teen Porn Site Blog Johnny's Porn Nesa (aka johnnybg)

2006-10-25, 05:56 AM	#21
darksoul Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 13	giving credits where its due would be nice http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=667179

2006-10-25, 05:57 AM	#22
eman Solipsists of the world unite Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: xxx axis Posts: 639	Good work chaps

2006-10-25, 08:04 AM	#24
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Oh yeah, I see Lars said it was about .5 percent of surfers with zango. We will have real numbers later today. But, we have seen sites with up to 4 percent infected. But, that was Lars, he seems to be fighting for the other side.