Enough with the fucking gagging already!!!

[DangerDave]

Sheesh... has the entire porn world turned to gagging now??

As stated previously...

<opinion>
IMO it is a degrading practice and also creates a problem for our industry
</opinion>

.. but now it is effecting other areas...


I signed up to one program to promote a micro-niche site... but then found that EVERY scene for this "ass licking" niche site... was all gagging and abuse shit.. and hardly any focus on the niche itself.

What a fucking waste of time!

.. and now all the greneral reality/gonzo sites appear to be taking it up... as it appears in more and more tours and scenes...

Why? Why? Why?!!

Porn is about sex! not about abuse!

DD

[Cleo]

I couldn't agree more

[spookyx]

I agree, when I first started in this biz I pushed only nude Japanese girls, did great. Now it's harder to sell softcore because the surfer is so used to extreme hardcore. IMHO

[MightyMidget]

Gagging is degrading, ass licking is not? C'mon now...
Not that I think any of these practices are worth applauding

[SheepGuy]

Ass licking is consensual, shoving your dick down someone's throat until they puke is not.

[oldbrad]

By degrading he sounds like he is centering on the abuse aspect of it, as well as the giant saturation in the gagging niche. You cant find a cumshot, blowjob, hardcore, fetish, etc category without a huge amount of gagging.

Personally i think it's strange, but then again i like some wierd shit that others would be like "wtf". To each their own, but i agree that it's just everywhere. Today i saw quite a few sites where they squirt milk in to a birls ass, then while fucking they squirt the milk everywhere. A niche for all i guess lol.

[MightyMidget]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

Ass licking is consensual, shoving your dick down someone's throat until they puke is not.

Why wouldn't it be, I'm sure the girls know what they're getting into before the scene is shot

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by MightyMidget

Why wouldn't it be, I'm sure the girls know what they're getting into before the scene is shot

That's not the point

So you're saying just because the girls know what they're getting into before the scene is shot it's OK to make it look like they're actually being abused when they're not....It's still portraying and promoting abuse.

[ivo68]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

That's not the point

So you're saying just because the girls know what they're getting into before the scene is shot it's OK to make it look like they're actually being abused when they're not....It's still portraying and promoting abuse.

I don't like gagging at all but looks like porn is developing in the same way like mainstream movies. 90% of mainstream movies are about violence, murder, drug abuse, extortion ... Of course, they mostly have a hero but why the hell do they need 15 corpses and 50 liters of blood per movie? Or take for instance the Soprano's - they show mafia people like actually being good family guys doing a tough job.

[MightyMidget]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

That's not the point

So you're saying just because the girls know what they're getting into before the scene is shot it's OK to make it look like they're actually being abused when they're not....It's still portraying and promoting abuse.

First of all, I'm not so sure gagging automatically equals abuse, that would depend on the site and the presentation. It seems oversimplified to take a category of porn and claim that it's all abusive. Compared to what, flushing someone's head in the toilet? Compared to electrocuting and drowning people?

Secondly, I said no such thing. If the site portrays the sex as abuse, then the site is abusive. I just don't think a girl having a gag reflex while performing oral sex automatically equals abuse.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by MightyMidget

First of all, I'm not so sure gagging automatically equals abuse, that would depend on the site and the presentation. It seems oversimplified to take a category of porn and claim that it's all abusive. Compared to what, flushing someone's head in the toilet? Compared to electrocuting and drowning people?

Secondly, I said no such thing. If the site portrays the sex as abuse, then the site is abusive. I just don't think a girl having a gag reflex while performing oral sex automatically equals abuse.

Of course I feel the same. Who am I to judge what consenting adults do? For this particular thing, I personally know at least 2 girls that enjoy it more than the guy. And, they do it to themselves.

Isn't it just part of the whole domination thing?

[ladydesigner]

What about the sleep assault sites?? I've been getting a ton of them submitted to me lately that promote abusing a woman while she is supposedly "sleeping". I don't like these sites at all but that's just a personal opinion so I choose to not list those types of sites.

As a woman myself, I personally hate that gagging crap. I see nothing pleasurable in that type of thing.... Again, just my opinion.

[Toby]

If it's mutually consensual, I have no issue with it. But if it's not, or if it's made to appear that it is not, that's where it crosses the line. Sometimes it's very hard to tell which.

[docholly]

Gagging has been around for a while in the gay sites.. but recently it seems like every program has jumped on the bandwagon.. part of the "vanilla sex is boring lets see what extreme stuff we can think of next and all JUMP on it" syndrome..

Nothing like a good BJ with last nights marinara sauce all over your dick for a very happy ending.

[Greenguy]

Oh for the love of if you don't like a niche or don't understand it enough to where you're comfortable with other people doing it, then DON'T FUCKING PROMOTE THE NICHE!

I could start the same thread & talk about bondage, femdom, spanking, etc.

Some people like the niche & some don't. If you don't, just move on.

[DangerDave]

No NO NO!! This thread was not about the "gaggin question"... we have done that one over already...
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...hlight=gagging


.. and the last thing I want to do is bring out the "consenting adults" brigade...



This is business... My post was about the invasion of niches and sub-niches by the practice of gagging, humiliation, spitting and choking...


Sure......... have ya stupid gagging sites...... (My views are clear)

.. but when the practice invades other sites, and that practice, overtakes the primary theme of the niche... there are problems.

Marketing of that niche-site under the said niche is impossible if the 'gaggin' garbage is really the dominant theme.

.. and as I said... more and more sites/producers are making the gaggin thing part of the usual shoot.

THAT is my problem...


All you consenting adults can go gag yourself stupid!

DD

[stuveltje]

when making my gagging seo page i will focus on this thread..........not

[Greenguy]

I still think people are letting their personal opinions in on this just a teeny tiny little bit

It's a fad - just like people fucking on moving vehicles

[TheLegacy]

face it - making porn has never been about how we feel about it - like it or not - its what is legal enough to sell. If seeing a girl in hot pants taking a magnifying glass and burning paper in the sun turns someone on, then I am all over it.

gagging has to be doing something or webmasters would not be demanding more. creating content is demand - not from us - but from surfers/members. I dont have to like it, I have to like the money it produces

[Useless]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

gagging has to be doing something or webmasters would not be demanding more.

And what about those of us who are demanding LESS? What does that say?

Though I find all gagging to be disgusting, the topic is about how gagging continues to bleed in to the vanilla hardcore that most viewers enjoy. My theory is that producers attempt to squeeze as many niches as fucking possible in to every shoot. So an idiotic gagging/face-r@pe seen gets tossed in to what should have been a semi-sexy old fashioned bang movie.

If we suddenly noticed that fisting scenes were being added to more and more standard/reality sites, I'm sure some of us what be screaming WHAT THE FUCK at that too. Extreme porn, like gagging and fisting, should remain segregated from mainstream pornography. The reason that extreme porn sells so well is because it's FUCKING EXTREME! You start passing that shit off as standard sexuality and guess what? It's not going to convert as an extreme niche. Duh. Surely I'm not the only marketing genius here.

[Greenguy]

I think some of you should write a strongly worded letter to all the content producers of the world

[sabin]

It feels pretty nice...

[Useless]

Originally Posted by sabin

It feels pretty nice...

Does it? Go ahead and gag yourself on my cock, if you'd like.

[Doug E]

That gagging shit is fucked, same with the fags that like choking the girls theyre fucking. It can be argued all night but the fact is normal people see that shit and end up thinking all porn and people in the porn business is and are like that.

[Sarah_Jayne]

I don't get why women can't just be seen to REALLY like sex with out having to be in some sort of pain.