Sites Not Converting. Need Feedback

[Porn Junkie]

I usually don't have a problem getting listed, but i'm having a hard time pushing visitors to my sponsors and better yet, converting. Sales are rare.

I submit to about 36 link lists per day.

Looking for some feedback and pointers to help convert better and make some more sales.

Sampling of my sites
http://www.thepornjunkies.com/gal/pigtailedbabe/
http://www.thepornjunkies.com/gal/blackwhite/
http://www.thepornjunkies.com/gal/vixensfuckmachines/
http://www.thepornjunkies.com/gal/redheadsuckjob/
http://www.thepornjunkies.com/gal/deepthroateva/
http://www.thepornjunkies.com/gal/orgysexparty/

Here's one that's not quite done yet. Need to build the proper index page, but might as well get some feedback before it gets submitted.
http://www.thepornjunkies.com/gal/ba...sian/main.html

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

[ponygirl]

well, just some thoughts (heaven knows I'm no expert LOL) - you may want to try some juicier text, get the surfer hot & tease them some more. Don't be afraid to talk dirty to them

also, you could make your links stand out a bit more - use bigger fonts, more contrasting colors. I stay away from graphical text links just for that reason - they tend to blend into the site too much.

It takes time to figure out what works for you. Try different things (more text, less text, bigger/smaller banners, no banners etc) and if you can, use tracking codes to keep track of where hits and sales come from. That way you can use what works and toss what doesn't.

I'm sure you'll get lots of other suggestions here, and MML's On The Bench radio show on Sundays is a great way to get ideas too

[Maj. Stress]

Porn Junkie,
I think most free site builders would agree that a very high percentage of your sales will come right from the index page. Usually the top of that page. Grab em by the balls and steer them to the sponsor tour with that ad space. As ponygirl pointed out, use text not graphics. It loads faster. For the text you use, talk to the surfer. What does the paysite have to offer that sets it apart from the rest? Does it have movies? Are they downloadable? ipod compatible? How many? Do they have the hottest %insert niche% women? At least that's what works for me.
You should try to make it to on the bench also. Mr. Mary Lou provides a wealth of information on his radio show. Last week was all about text!

[SheepGuy]

One little bit. I never have a link to Gallery 2 from Gallery 1, if they wanna see Gallery 2, they've got to go back to the Mainpage and have at least one more look at my filthy ads there
Probably doesn't count for much, but hey, why make it super easy? Usually by the time they hit your galleries your odds are pretty slim anyways.

[oldbrad]

Like others said, seperate the ads from the site a little more. I looked at the blackwhite site and didn't know the botton graphic was even a banner. The site looks great design wise, but with some added text (and a mouseover with sites name only) it could probably get many more clicks.

[Preacher]

Listen to all these suggestions and adjust as you deem appropriate, but one thing you should note... freesites don't sell as well as they used to.

Not each site is gaurenteed gold. I'd be very skeptical of anyone that tells you that every freesite will make a sale. Keep this in mind, route some traffic back to your hub so that there's more benefit to your freesites than just an instant sale. Traffic can be valuable if directed correctly.

[Porn Junkie]

Great information everyone, please keep it coming!

Just to clarify on one thing that was pointed out. Do the majority of you all prefer to use actualy text rather than a graphical image for text?

I just see that you can be more flashy with a graphical text link rather than just plain text, but what the hell do I know

[Maj. Stress]

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie

Just to clarify on one thing that was pointed out. Do the majority of you all prefer to use actualy text rather than a graphical image for text?

I just see that you can be more flashy with a graphical text link rather than just plain text, but what the hell do I know

I'll give you a little marketing clue and you can draw your own conclusions. Have you ever been to the grocery store and when you turn the corner to go down the next aisle something immediately grabs your eye? That bottle or bag of "whatever" did not grab your attention by chance. It was carefully planned. The same theory applies here. Text loads fast and stands out on a page. Text used in graphics tends to blend into the background and doesn't grab the eye as fast.

Hit em with your best shot as fast as you can and build upon that first impression in the rest of the site. After some trial and error I think you will find more hits to your sponsor and hopefully more sales.

[SheepGuy]

You can be pretty LARGE with text and use a link color and a common font that stands out, leave the space around it not so crowded, and pull the surfers eye towards it.
Text gives you long term SE possibilitys and can be flashy as well. Graphics a lot of the time just blend in with the theme of the site and get skipped over by the surfer looking for the free shit.
And Preacher is dead on, they ain't all going to be winners. It's a tougher game than it used to be. Have a hub worth bookmarking. I usually have a link to my LL on both galleries, coz I figure I've likely lost the sale by then anyways, and my LL is worth bookmarking

[SheepGuy]

Major ya beat me too it dude

[Porn Junkie]

damn guys, that makes a whole lot of sense!!!!!!!

and here i spent an hour making flashy graphics while I waited for more responses LOL.

Some of my first sites were using plain text, but see way too many using flashing .gif text links. they seemed to catch my eye so I started putting them in, but they are taking WAY too much time to make. Normal text site used to take me about an hour to make. these are an entire night!

Thanks for the info! putting it to use right now

[Ms Naughty]

I'll just come here and agree that your sites could definitely do with more text. You need to tell me why I should bother to click on the sponsor links - what's in it for me? Is there a trial? Is it the best quality content around? Can I only get it in one place? Is it the weirdest shit I'll ever see? And maybe put some personality in the comments. Like, "it gave me a boner for a week..." LOL

I would say at present the graphical ads are too easy to ignore.

[virgohippy]

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie

Normal text site used to take me about an hour to make. these are an entire night!

Only an hour, eh? I can show you some all night text sites.

The smoother the workflow the easier it is to keep 'em regular. The more you get out the more opportunities to find that surfer who's hungering for what you've got. Reason enough to change practice, no?

That's something I have to remind myself every time I sit down long enough to build a site.

[Porn Junkie]

So now that i've got good information regarding changing graphical text images to actualy text, is it worth it to use a header graphic like im using or again should text be used?

[LowryBigwood]

You may also try different sponsors/paysites/tours as you could see a very big difference just by changing the sponsor you are promoting.

I started building freesites about 6 months ago again after not doing any freesites for a couple of years due to the 2257 mess that happened at that time. I noticed right away I was not getting the kind of sales I was a couple of years back. I wasn't sure if I forgot how to get sales, or if it was harder to make sales off freesites now or what....

I kept seeing others talk about how it's so much harder now to make money on freesites and started to believe that. Then I changed my sponsor and started building for a different one. Within a few weeks the sales started picking up and have continued gaining momentum.

So... Don't just assume your sponsor will work for you and your freesites. Test, test, test.

[Porn Junkie]

Good point LowryBigwood. I did focus for a few days with the oral ones you see, but they are brandnew content from my sponsor so thought I would give them a whirl.

I agree and am going to spread out sponsors a bit. Possibly focus on 2 or 3 different ones and a couple different niches and see what gets the best results.

I think with the information i've gathered from this thread, I got a new testing plan so we'll see what happens. I'll give a a couple weeks and see if anything changes.

[Allfetish]

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie

Good point LowryBigwood. I did focus for a few days with the oral ones you see, but they are brandnew content from my sponsor so thought I would give them a whirl.

I agree and am going to spread out sponsors a bit. Possibly focus on 2 or 3 different ones and a couple different niches and see what gets the best results.

I think with the information i've gathered from this thread, I got a new testing plan so we'll see what happens. I'll give a a couple weeks and see if anything changes.

What the others have said about the text. The banners at the bottom are near worthless as people probably hardly click them. It all blends into the page all too well. This would be great in conventional designs and I bet you get listed almost everywhere you submit too but it is horrible for sales. Try to make the links to your sponsors * STAND OUT *. It could be a little explosion, a glow effect, Arrows on the sides pointing to link text, etc. You get the idea.

About making sales. Are you getting enough visitors to your pages? To obtain your goals you might have to do more than freesites. The freesites are good but you can only submit one a day in most places which limits you a little. So if you have some spare time try to branch out into other things too and incorporate it with your freesite work.

[stfuvt]

imho try to focus on selling the paysite on the index and main page. In my experience these are the pages the most sales come from. Try with different text and track where the sales come from. This way you will find your own way of doing it and find what works for you and what not. Then repeat
Good Luck mate

[Porn Junkie]

Originally Posted by Allfetish

To obtain your goals you might have to do more than freesites. The freesites are good but you can only submit one a day in most places which limits you a little. So if you have some spare time try to branch out into other things too and incorporate it with your freesite work.

So far I have 2 decent blogs going that are updated almost every day, a fake TGP and some galleries.

Im looking into an AVS like Adultbouncer but that shits looking time consuming

Any other suggestions?

[shunga]

I'm repeating what's been said, but either I couldn't tell what was a banner and what was a graphic, or your sales pitch was telling me what other sites I could expect to have access to, rather than what the site you were selling me was going to do.

[bDok]

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie

damn guys, that makes a whole lot of sense!!!!!!!

and here i spent an hour making flashy graphics while I waited for more responses LOL.

Some of my first sites were using plain text, but see way too many using flashing .gif text links. they seemed to catch my eye so I started putting them in, but they are taking WAY too much time to make. Normal text site used to take me about an hour to make. these are an entire night!

Thanks for the info! putting it to use right now

Another thing about flashy graphic links and text is it's not getting indexed in the search engines. I didn't check to see if your using the ALT tag for your graphics, but that might help a little too, but I don't think it's going to be as good as a good ol h1 tag with the sites keywords right in it. The whole thing is a game of numbers and also figuring out what is selling for you. There are a lot of sites out there that I think look awesome, but for the life of me I just couldn't sell.

Cheers,
B

[Linkster]

What they say about text - and lots of BIG text - in addition to the example of the grocery store advertising - take a look at magazines or the Sunday newspapers - what catches your eye immediately? Remember you only have a few seconds(if that much time) to make that impression - and definitely make the surfer click back to get another gallery - one more ad impression

[Allfetish]

Originally Posted by Porn Junkie

So far I have 2 decent blogs going that are updated almost every day, a fake TGP and some galleries.

Im looking into an AVS like Adultbouncer but that shits looking time consuming

Any other suggestions?

AVS is tough for less sales from the internal linkslist these days. If you are not doing sexkey though, I would give them a go. Their rules are lax enough so as not be a pain and where you can still make money. $20 per psuedo-free join is nice too.

You have a fake TGP? Is http://fuckyourgovernment.com/ yours? If so, I submit there every once in a while and got a kick out of the name. I hope you cross your t's and dot your i's on your tax returns though! LOL

Use each thing to bring in new traffic (i.e. Though it is good to keep them in your network of sites, do more than just pass traffic to each of your sites as far as traffic sources go). Each blog can easily add 200 - 1000 extra fresh new visitors a day with basic free marketing (be creative, I can't give too much away unfortunately).

Keep in mind a golden rule that some don't learn right away - vary your traffic sources as much as possible. Don't keep taking from the same pool of surfers as there is diminshing returns from them. Especially if you are always selling the same thing.

[Mr Spock]

is it worth it to use a header graphic like im using or again should text be used?

Use text and put it in H1 tags - much better from an SE perspective. Fancy graphic header may look nice, but thats not really the objective - you want traffic and ultimately sales.