How long does it take you to make a FS?

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by QuickDraw

Do you find more of your pages indexed by se's using that method? I've thought about it in the past, but always figured it was more trouble then it was worth.. Do you use unique directory names too? I think I might give that a try on my next go 'round.

The Hippy is on the right track

I use unique directories and altered keyterms to adjust to the directory names. Also, altered metas and other text on each version of the site to keep them completely unique. Since I do 3 mirrors of each site, I end up with 3 entirely unique sites wrapped around the same set of pictures.

That said, when I first started doing them that way...yes, google seemed to like it. Over time however, that fickle beast has dropped a LOT of the pages. Yahoo still has most of them...MSN has more than Google, but far less than Yahoo.

Worth the extra time??? Honestly, that's a toss up

[JustRobert]

Built one today in about 1.5 hrs and .5 for submit time. I only submit to about 36 lists at this time. This one was from scratch but was not one of my better looking ones. Plus I manually thumbed/resize the images and created a quick banner all with photoshop so that takes a bit longer than using a thumb program. Also changed titles and some wording for the one mirror so they read as different sites.

Ive been doing galleries for a few years, 100s to choose from, so I use those galleries alot for my freesites. Knock the image count down, do a quick change of color-text-layout change to match whats going on with the index/main which is always done from scratch and that gives more time to concentrate on the better looking site while still keeping it around 1.5 most times.

[kaktus]

Around 2 hours with submitting (54 LL).

[flyeruk]

Interesting thread...

I always thought I took too long on my freesites, but anything from 2 hours upwards seems to be average.

When I'm on a roll and doing 5 or 6 per week I can get them built & submitted quicker.

About 3 years ago I was doing one a day AND holding down a full time job. Now I struggle to do one every few days and I work full time in this biz!

Lisa

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by flyeruk

Interesting thread...

I always thought I took too long on my freesites, but anything from 2 hours upwards seems to be average.

When I'm on a roll and doing 5 or 6 per week I can get them built & submitted quicker.

About 3 years ago I was doing one a day AND holding down a full time job. Now I struggle to do one every few days and I work full time in this biz!

Lisa

That'll teach you to quit your day job

[ynuahayt]

It's all about doing them in batches imo - I think it pans out to less than an hour for me when I do many at once with templates and batch image cutting.

[neveremail]

My best is built and submitted in 1 hour - but usually it takes 1.5 - 2hrs. Each FS has about 100+ words of unique text per page and is keyword optimized. Submit to 65 LLs and some BBS and linkdumps too. Also make a blog post for the freesite too (also with 100 words). On average i submit 5-6 freesites a week.

Of course there is always the extra time of building the templates in the first place, finding good sponsors to promote, getting the content, managing the submit database, and gradually replacing templates and sponsors that don't convert with ones that do.

Making the freesites good for SE traffic only adds about 30mins to the total time and is well worth it. From freesites alone I am building a network of niche sites which are regularly updated and have a lot of pages with unique optimized text.

[AndyS]

I personally get enough content for 4 sites done in a batch. Then build a free site from scratch which takes about 1.5 hours but then change the look, retarget the keyword text, add the new content, all done 3 times, so by the end I have four different new free sites that I can submit one a month for the next four months. All that takes 2.5 to 3 hours.

[Mr Exotic]

Each time I pick a new paysite to make free sites for I get all the content in order, make the thumbs. etc, I usually spend a whole day doing that, but then I have content and thumbs and all that good stuff ready to go for usually at least 20 sites or so just for that paysite. I make my designs pretty simple and clean but I write ALOT of unique text for each site, usually a good size paragraph for each page. On a pretty simple one I can make it in a little less than an hour on my more elaborate ones it can take a little less than 2 hours, but usually its around an hour and 10-20 minutes. I submit a free site every single day, but I try and build at least 2 a day, 2 a day I consider a decent day, 3 a good day, any more than that and its an awesome day There have been days where I have built more than 5, I think a couple days I have built 7 or more. I submit a free site every single day, so I obviously am building more than I can submit but I do take the weekends off from building and since the weather has got nice I have been slacking really bad on building. What I build and cant submit yet I just incorporate in my network of sites I am starting and it sits there waiting for its turn to get submitted. For example the site I submitted today I built in March Submitting is really quick and easy for me, usually takes less than 10 minutes since I have only been submitting to 12-15 sites and the handy dandy robo form. I do plan on expanding my submit list to around 30 and make a mirror, but I havent figured out yet how to exactly go about that just yet.

[Preacher]

Might as well jump into this too.

It takes me 4-5 hours to build a freesite, but I'm very anal, and so are about half of the freesites I make. |worm

[juggernaut]

I was getting very anal when I started and I have not built many. Maybe 30 or so. I found myself having to get orginized very fast. Once I did that it now takes me about 3 hours with submits, if I don't get disturbed. My next project is to just make 30 templates, get 30 differant sets of content and start that whole rotation thingy. But 1st must get game plan in order.

[dreadbandit]

3 hours... in 2-3 blocks of time. If i got picky (on myself) it's something like 4-5 hours & even with that time it's still ok, I've created 10 unique designs and from that I'll be able to do 30 free sites.

After such session for a few hours or few sessions over 3-4 days everything's ready and I've got more time for new projects. Of course with that technique it's still good to give yourself 10-15 minutes with each site, sometimes i'm getting a new idea for adv. text, sometimes I catch something to correct or improve etc. etc.

Need to prepare a special one today. I'm curious will it go faster or even faster than I currently think it will go : ) Last times i'm listening to some kind of weird shit (personally i love it!) about effectivnes, concentration, memory & all those "mindy" things |shocking|


what do You think about preparing base of texts? they could be general or niche specific... if you're good at writing texts or simply like it it gets only better & better as such base should work pretty nice on creativity : ]

[stuveltje]

now it will take me days to make one and realy almost an hour to submit it to 16 linksites ....yeah laugh ....laugh all....ones you all get older to

[tigermom]

Originally Posted by dreadbandit

what do You think about preparing base of texts? they could be general or niche specific... if you're good at writing texts or simply like it it gets only better & better as such base should work pretty nice on creativity : ]

I try to keep the text relevant not only to the niche, but to the specific paysite and often even to the content of the freesite. I'm doing lots of movie freesites lately, so that's more inspirational for text writing... I just describe the movie basically and try to get them to realize the full version is real interesting and available only on the paysite