Changes in 2 years

[LB]

I really haven't done freesite stuff personally for 2 years, and we haven't done much at all in the past year, but I am looking at trying to get back into a little freesite submitting because I really enjoyed making and submitting them.

Has much changed in the past 2 years? I know some have gone paid partner account/pa only, but in general have there been any significant rules changes that would now make me a 'cheater' or make it hard to get accepted assuming I was being accepted a couple years back?

[Greenguy]

I just looked at the last few rules that I added & I think most of these came into play over the last 2 years or so:

22. If your submitting a site that has 2 or more pages from the same set of content, the pics MUST be in order. I'm sick of seeing sites where page 1 has the girl ending up completely nude but page 2 has her stripping all over again.
23. Your site has to look decent at 800x600 - if I have to scroll to the right to see the entire page or things just look "off", it will be declined.
24. No sites with 3rd party counters will be listed. Get some stats on your server.
25. No more crappy vid caps for your pics - video camera's take movies, not still images.
26. No more sites with broken English.

[Useless]

I *think* that the no third-party counter rule came in within the last 2 years. But don't quote me.

[LB]

Ah yeah that 3rd party counter is just common sense, but its new. Same with the pic series thing, but again its just common sense.

Thanks

[Greenguy]

LB - you would not believe how many of the rules that Link Lists have in place seem to be "common sense" to most people

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by Greenie

LB - you would not believe how many of the rules that Link Lists have in place seem to be "common sense" to most people

Boy howdy...that's a fact!

And even having the rules doesn't stop those sites from being submitted

[LB]

Originally Posted by Greenie

LB - you would not believe how many of the rules that Link Lists have in place seem to be "common sense" to most people

Haha I bet you do. Must have the patience of a saint to run a LL.

[Buncha]

One thing I noticed that's changed in the past year, is that most LL are strictly enforcing the "3 outgoing links per page" rule.

When I started making freesites about a year ago, I could get away with 3 main sponsor links, plus an exit link to a non-adult sponsor and a copyright link to my hub. Most LL wouldn't count the exit and copyright links.

Another very recent change is that some LL have increased the minimum pic size to 600 pixels on the long side (it was 500 pizels).

Also, almost every LL are no longer accepting sites that have recips with more than 2 links. All LL have changed their recips to comply with this rule.

[Linkster]

I dont know of any of the major LLs that would not accept a free site using a mainstream exit link and a copyright link at the bottom - you must be submitting to some rather unknown LLs to run into that kind of BS - the only exit link rule I know of that has caused problems is when the link wont let you go back to the free site (hijacks) like warningpages used to do - and the copyright notice link at the bottom is just plain good SEO and should be on every page you ever build

[webslave]

One thing I noticed that changed was the LL recips. Some ask for no more than 5, others don't mind a LL banner farm. Most REQUIRE a link back from above the "enter" button on the 1st page.
I don't remember it being so specific back then...

[LB]

Originally Posted by Buncha

One thing I noticed that's changed in the past year, is that most LL are strictly enforcing the "3 outgoing links per page" rule.

When I started making freesites about a year ago, I could get away with 3 main sponsor links, plus an exit link to a non-adult sponsor and a copyright link to my hub. Most LL wouldn't count the exit and copyright links.

Another very recent change is that some LL have increased the minimum pic size to 600 pixels on the long side (it was 500 pizels).

Also, almost every LL are no longer accepting sites that have recips with more than 2 links. All LL have changed their recips to comply with this rule.

Hey thats good to know. I never really counted exact links like you have to do on tgp, and just kinda balanced the advertising vs the content. Good tip thanks ... I will have to look out for that.

[ronnie]

I agree with Grrenguy on the broken english. Seems I've gotten alot more sites like that in the last year or so. More then I remember from the past. So tired of seeing "Enter to 'sitename'".

ronnie

[Xeno]

Hi LB...its me from the other place ..hehe...anyways, I think what you will discover is that everyone seems to have the same rules with each one also having their "own" unique rules as well. Best advice I would give is keep it to the common sense, but try to create quality designed sites. The other would not to over use sponsor content that so many seem to use. Seems like when a new gallery comes out with one, a million webmasters all make Free Gallery Sites with that same one and submit them to LL's.

For us, I don't think there is anything out of the ordinary but we do offer a couple good incentives for webmasters. I am also working on a brand new 69toplinks which will work even better for both webmaster and surfer. If interested in details, PM me.

Cheers

[lassiter]

Originally Posted by Buncha

Another very recent change is that some LL have increased the minimum pic size to 600 pixels on the long side (it was 500 pizels).

Also, almost every LL are no longer accepting sites that have recips with more than 2 links. All LL have changed their recips to comply with this rule.

What's the preferred maximum on the long side now? If memory serves, a few LLs (not all) back in the day were complaining about pics larger than 550 as "giving too much good free stuff away" and preferring 500-550 as the minimum-maximum.

And am I understanding you correctly? Only 2 recips per warning page? I can't say I've ever even seen that. Even new sites I've seen have at least 5-6 still.

[docholly]

Originally Posted by LB

Has much changed in the past 2 years?

I'd say the level of bull shite has gotten much deeper.

[Buncha]

Originally Posted by Linkster

I dont know of any of the major LLs that would not accept a free site using a mainstream exit link and a copyright link at the bottom - you must be submitting to some rather unknown LLs to run into that kind of BS - the only exit link rule I know of that has caused problems is when the link wont let you go back to the free site (hijacks) like warningpages used to do - and the copyright notice link at the bottom is just plain good SEO and should be on every page you ever build

You're right, the LL were smaller ones. It's funny how the some of the smallest sites with the least amount of traffic can have the strictest rules. And I agree about the copyright link, but I got some decline emails complaining out 4 outgoing links (3 porn links + copyright link).

Originally Posted by lassiter

What's the preferred maximum on the long side now? If memory serves, a few LLs (not all) back in the day were complaining about pics larger than 550 as "giving too much good free stuff away" and preferring 500-550 as the minimum-maximum.

And am I understanding you correctly? Only 2 recips per warning page? I can't say I've ever even seen that. Even new sites I've seen have at least 5-6 still.

There's a thread here about LL owners increasing the min pic size. I don't know if there's a preferred maximum. But I know there's at least one LL that declines for pics over 80KB. So I try to find a balance between 600 pixels on the long side and under 80KB.

I didn't mean 2 recips, I meant that each recip can only have 2 links on it. Most recips have one link to the index page and one link to the category page. In the past, some LL's had recips with 3 or more links and it was getting out of control. There was a crackdown, and all the LL changed their recips to comply with the new rules. I only mentioned it, because when I got back into freesites a few months ago (after a 6 month break), I had to redo all my old recip tables to comply with the new rule.

[first-nude]

guys want firm natural tits and not strippers with boob jobs. with war on, guys want something real. fake lips. fake tits. fake personalaties are out. webmaster at first-nude.com

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by first-nude

guys want firm natural tits and not strippers with boob jobs. with war on, guys want something real. fake lips. fake tits. fake personalaties are out. webmaster at first-nude.com

There ya go LB! The only thing to change about building & submitting free sites in the last 2 years is that it's now all about BIG NATURAL TITS

[Jel]

Originally Posted by first-nude

guys want firm natural tits and not strippers with boob jobs. with war on, guys want something real. fake lips. fake tits. fake personalaties are out. webmaster at first-nude.com

How about strippers with firm natural tits?

[LB]

Originally Posted by Greenie

There ya go LB! The only thing to change about building & submitting free sites in the last 2 years is that it's now all about BIG NATURAL TITS

Now it all makes sense !!

I'll start auto-submitting my 10 big natural tits freesites a day!

[neveremail]

LB - When I first started I used the freesite tutorials you wrote a couple of years ago as a helpful guide. I would have to say the figures compared to today are much harder to acheive. I was not around 2 years ago to be sure of this, but I think you have to gain a lot more experience and knoweldge to be successful now. You have to choose which sites you promote wisely and also really know how to sell and push traffic to the sponsor. This was of course still important two years ago, but now I think its a lot more important.

I think Saturation and Competition are much more of a problem now.

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by neveremail

I think Saturation and Competition are much more of a problem now.

And most sponsors will say it's not true, ya right.

ronnie