They Strung Up Sadam

[jonnydoe]

"One time when I explained to him the war was only about oil he wanted me to leave his house lol." That's because he knew it was all about personal revenge ;-)

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

I guess we are in W's WW now... Embarrassed to be a republican.

I say we ban all republicans. Oh wait we are a democracy. I guess we will have to settle for hanging.

[jonnydoe]

Democratic Republic ;-)

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I say we ban all republicans. Oh wait we are a democracy. I guess we will have to settle for hanging.

That's what makes this board the best. I honestly thought a few times I would be banned here for some of our arguements. But once again that's what makes this board the best. As long as you are not a total shithead you can stay and say whatever you like.

[RamCharger]

I think Noriega must have woken up this morning and thought to himself that he got a pretty fair deal. I mean I doubt he's been even touched in prison with all the drugs he probably hooked people up with.

[dareutwo]

Is there a way to beat an insurgency?
Besides bringing in 500k troops, setting up camp, killing them 1 by 1 for the next 20 years til they don't have numbers to reproduce?
Sadam was put in place and aided by the US, oh wait, GB forgot that point.
Iraq will soon become 3 seperate states/nations, and possibly 2 if Turkey decides to invade.

Killing Sadam does nothing, proves nothing (except that GB was wrong and we're all fools).
I don't see much of a daily escalation soon, but I'm guessing a Big attack may be near at hand.

Originally Posted by Cleo

I say we ban all republicans. Oh wait we are a democracy. I guess we will have to settle for hanging.

C'mon - be brave and call it socialism

[RamCharger]

How short a memory everyone here has when it comes to politics. I don't cling to either side in particular, but everyone seems to think that all democrats are kind to the adult industry and all republicans are opposed. I guess everyone forgot that it was lieberman that sent the video game industry running for cover and pretty much forced them to set up the esrb or risk the government being involved. btw- here's a nice little link: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/tags/i...seph+lieberman
I wish everyone here would stop blindly thinking that either side is made up of saints that love the adult industry. Truth be told they both hate us equally because they're both trying to pander for a "family friendly" image. Now can we please stop holding up the "adult industry for democrats" sign?

[jonnydoe]

Well said RamCharger...the dems though are by definition more liberal and thus more accepting to us who are on the edge and produce all the porn that the conservatives masturbate to.

Originally Posted by RamCharger

How short a memory everyone here has when it comes to politics. I don't cling to either side in particular, but everyone seems to think that all democrats are kind to the adult industry and all republicans are opposed. I guess everyone forgot that it was lieberman that sent the video game industry running for cover and pretty much forced them to set up the esrb or risk the government being involved. btw- here's a nice little link: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/tags/i...seph+lieberman
I wish everyone here would stop blindly thinking that either side is made up of saints that love the adult industry. Truth be told they both hate us equally because they're both trying to pander for a "family friendly" image. Now can we please stop holding up the "adult industry for democrats" sign?

[Kinky]

it might be hard to believe but just because people can't stand the republicans doesn't mean they like the dems any better if i was a republican i would be ashamed of what my party has done to the world, not just a little embarrased... especially if i or any of my family voted for bush more than once

[RamCharger]

Hmm, lets see what the dems brought us: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson and his baby making scandal, James Trafficant, I forget his name (but he's a million years old and gives really rambling, non-sensical stories when he wants to filibuster), Liberman and his "fmaily friendly" crusade against the video game industry, and a blow job scandal (is this why we're still sticking with 'em?) from someone who was proud of answering the boxers or briefs question while comprising a cabinet full of people who "looked" like american (and in the case of surgeon general in particular, really had no clue what they were doing). I'm sorry if I missed any other significant other events, but that's from about 5 seconds worth of thought. Yeah, I'd be just that more proud to be thoroughly in bed with the democrats. What the hell ever happened to the idea of the candidate and not the party? Let's start looking at who we're voting for and not which side we're voting for. Maybe we'll finally get a bunch of congress critters in office that we're not ashamed of that way.

[RamCharger]

P.S. anyone remember that nut job surgeon general when she first said that we needed to start making "safer guns and safer bullets"? That had me rolling after 2m of blinking.

[bluemoney]

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

Democratic Republic ;-)

Constitutional Republic!

Based on Democratic principles and the rule of law. Majority rules, but not at the expense of an individual’s rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

Say what you will about this nation, but it’s founders for all there short comings were a sharp bunch of fuckers.

Too bad political office is now often held by people who could'nt hold down a "real job" . . . . kind of like another failed social program.

[Kinky]

Originally Posted by RamCharger

Hmm, lets see what the dems brought us: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson and his baby making scandal, James Trafficant, I forget his name (but he's a million years old and gives really rambling, non-sensical stories when he wants to filibuster), Liberman and his "fmaily friendly" crusade against the video game industry, and a blow job scandal (is this why we're still sticking with 'em?) from someone who was proud of answering the boxers or briefs question while comprising a cabinet full of people who "looked" like american (and in the case of surgeon general in particular, really had no clue what they were doing). I'm sorry if I missed any other significant other events, but that's from about 5 seconds worth of thought. Yeah, I'd be just that more proud to be thoroughly in bed with the democrats. What the hell ever happened to the idea of the candidate and not the party? Let's start looking at who we're voting for and not which side we're voting for. Maybe we'll finally get a bunch of congress critters in office that we're not ashamed of that way.

are you cross posting from a different thread from somewhere else? i'm not sure WTF you are even talking about, point me to the pro democrat
jargon you speak of please as there isn't any in this thread, just bitching about the current party in power... you seem pretty slanted to the right by the sound of your anti-dem rhetoric

[docholly]

Holy Crapspackle.. there's a Son of a Juggs in da house!!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by RamCharger

Hmm, lets see what the dems brought us...

I knew I wasn't going to like you.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by jonnydoe

My late father never gave me a choice. I've always been on the moderate side...still rather take a bullet than have Hillary as my leader though

Why? I've just been looking for rational reason for this. Got one?

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by RamCharger

What the hell ever happened to the idea of the candidate and not the party? Let's start looking at who we're voting for and not which side we're voting for. Maybe we'll finally get a bunch of congress critters in office that we're not ashamed of that way.

Agreed. Too many people vote along party lines.

I'm in the south and most Republicans around here still believe in conservative spending, keeping government small, not regulating our lives, providing jobs in the USA, want state rights and believe we should not be borrowing money from our enemies. Yet they've spent 6 years voting against all those principles and I don't know why.

Personally I look at every candidate individually.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by dareutwo

Is there a way to beat an insurgency?
Besides bringing in 500k troops, setting up camp, killing them 1 by 1 for the next 20 years til they don't have numbers to reproduce?
Sadam was put in place and aided by the US, oh wait, GB forgot that point.
Iraq will soon become 3 seperate states/nations, and possibly 2 if Turkey decides to invade.

Killing Sadam does nothing, proves nothing (except that GB was wrong and we're all fools).
I don't see much of a daily escalation soon, but I'm guessing a Big attack may be near at hand.

They didn't get a very strong conviction on Saddam. I think they really needed to nail him on charges of killing 10,000s of people instead of 148. Think about it. Right now on an average day 148 Iraqis can be killed. This is major fuel for terrorist recruiting. It's even better then the USA legalizing torture.

I think the job of terrorist recruiter is probably easier then the job of army recruiter.

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by docholly

Holy Crapspackle.. there's a Son of a Juggs in da house!!

That's to funny. I think he speaks very inteligently and can have a drink from my glass anytime lol. Ok so now the board has 3 republicans. Look out it's being over run lol. See I put my foot in my mouth again. Here we all were having a nice conversation about a shit head who got hung and now it's turning into a political debate again. lol

And kinky I think he is refering to this thread
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=35920

I have to admit that one had me steaming pissed off lol.

[RamCharger]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I knew I wasn't going to like you.

Why? For pointing out that the Dems have had their series of missteps too? If we're going to point out that one side is flawed then why are we omitting what the other has done? Neither side is perfect, brilliant, or will bring us a utopia so why is implying that voting for one side completely will?

[RamCharger]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

Why? I've just been looking for rational reason for this. Got one?

She's no saint. While "only" first lady she led a health care task force that burned through an enormous amount of cash, met in secret with members whose names were not disclosed, and came up with a really convoluted replacement for medicare that no one could understand (and it thankfully died a quick death). As senator she was the side kick to liberman that was gunning for the video game industry (leading the "family values" crusade) and forced them to set up the esrb. I'm sure she has had other antics, but I don't really watch her.

[Kinky]

Originally Posted by juggernaut

And kinky I think he is refering to this thread
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=35920

I have to admit that one had me steaming pissed off lol.

thanks Jugg, I wasn't sure where he was a comin' from... now it makes a lot more sense to me

[RamCharger]

Originally Posted by Kinky Jones

are you cross posting from a different thread from somewhere else? i'm not sure WTF you are even talking about, point me to the pro democrat
jargon you speak of please as there isn't any in this thread, just bitching about the current party in power... you seem pretty slanted to the right by the sound of your anti-dem rhetoric

My tirade was triggered by watching enough antirepublican remarks. Since there are really only two parties in this country that anyone can vote for (due to a rigged system) it isn't a stretch of the imagination for me to figure out what is implied: republicans = evil, democrats = can do no wrong. Truth be told, I hate them both, but the promise of lesser government that republicans pay lip service to does have me usually look more closely at their candidate. However, that doesn't mean I'm going to automatically vote for them.

What really irritated me here is it seems that everyone's running around saying how this administration has given this country a black eye in the view of the world as if they're the first one to do it. Truth is that every administration for the last fourty+ years has screwed up at least once or more.

Want a list?
Kennedy: bay of pigs, Marilyn Monroe, vietnam
LBJ: vietnam
Nixon: vietnam, watergate
Ford: vietnam, pardoning Nixon, trouble walking in straight lines or leaving aircraft
Carter: sank our economy, let a bunch of kids in Iran take our guys hostage for more than a year and bungled a rescue attempt due to the economic cutbacks (the airfilters in the helicopters were so crappy that they clogged and crashed).
Reagan: Iran Contra, scared the hell out of the world by talking armageddon to every world leader, wife consulted astrologers (but money flowed everywhere and he caused the soviets to collapse so we forgive him).
Bush (I): Quale, puked in the japanese prime ministers lap, raised taxes after saying he wouldn't which screwed the economy.
Clinton: do we even have to spell out the list here? It's rather lengthy and includes: Gore, Somalia, nut jobs in the cabinet, a cruise missile hitting an aspirin factory, and a lot of other things that we wish we could forget.
Bush (II): Forget it.

The guy in office now might not be a saint, but he wasn't the first to screw up and simply attributing all evil to a single party isn't honest so why should we be hanging our heads so low? because the media tells us so? Here's a thought: lets not!

Politics is dirty, ugly, and yields some rather stupid results (anyone look at Libya lately?). No one hears about the rest of the worlds error that much (did we all not hear that the French backed out of their commitment to send a peace keeping force to lebanon?) because we seem to be more willing than most to try to help everywhere we can, but that can lead us to make some serious missteps that become public. The sad part of all that is we reap that criticism because we preach from the moral high ground, but if a country known for murder and torture committed far more egregerious crimes no one would bat an eyelash because that is what everyone expected. Come on fellas (and ladies) lets have some semblance of pride in this country and what it stands for because even at our worst (and craziest) we're still better a better place to be (and do business with) than some of the other regimes on the block.

Like I said in my prior post (or actually a little more bluntly here): to hell with the partys! Lets start looking at the people. After all this time Kennedy should've gotten the axe for his share of escapades while in congress, but people just won't part with him because of the party he represents. Stevens is another turd that needs to be flushed too.

I would also like to point out that attributing the solution to our problems is to simply throw one party into complete power completely bastardizes our democracy. The reason why is that it almost assures that no debate will occur on any issue. One party simply gets to steam roll its solution forward and the other can throw rocks at them until it's their time to be in the drivers seat. How'd this become a sane idea?

Here's a better one (or two): have one party control the senate and the other control the house (at the least it'll stop crap from being steam rolled, at the most they'll have to debate each others thoughts). A better idea would be to get more third parties in the loop, but that will never happen.

[jonnydoe]

Rational=She is the career politician type placed into office in a state where she did nothing other than shop in prior to that.

Irrational=I think she is a cunt...

That's enough politics for me, Let's talk religion...just kidding ;-)

Have a Happy New year!

Originally Posted by SirMoby

Why? I've just been looking for rational reason for this. Got one?

[Kinky]

Originally Posted by RamCharger

My tirade was triggered by watching enough antirepublican remarks. Since there are really only two parties in this country that anyone can vote for (due to a rigged system) it isn't a stretch of the imagination for me to figure out what is implied: republicans = evil, democrats = can do no wrong.

no it is just that the reps were in complete power and they are the ones fucking up right now so they are the ones taking the heat...

the less gov't by the reps is laughable, they want to control every americans morals to conform to the same as theirs, and well look what they have done to the US bank account lately... everybody bitches that the dems wanna take away their money but at least they tell you up front and don't just piss it away with nobody checking whats going where... both parties do pretty much the same shit, they just have all us citizens fighting over which party is the best instead of the real issues that we should care about and then we end up with bad politicians with way too much power... i'm with you all the way that our system is a mess and doesn't work for the good of the people


I would like to see Rudy J take office and fix the fuckin mess that his party has done the last 6 yrs or so

is anybody else really, really, really pissed the the dems along with dubya are gonna give every illegal immigrant here citizenship, and let millions more flood in, they are pouring into my state as I type this and nobody is doing a fucking thing about