Do you think there's any real traffic in Web 2.0 yet?

[xxxjay]

I grasp the concept of a lot of the Web 2.0 Search Engines and communities, but do you think there is any real traffic there yet? Do you really think that is where everything is headed?

I'm not sold yet.

[ronnie]

Not for adult, least not yet. It has worked for me in non-adult. Very few allow porn, and those that do, it will usually get buried, reported or voted down. I've only gotten traffic from one Web 2.0 type site to my adult sites.

The other day I submitted a site for a client, non-adult, users were quick to point out it was not a interesting story or something that could be discussed. They are pretty good at policing.

Just my observations.

[Toby]

The inmates are running the asylum, so individual results will always be a crap shoot.

[bDok]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I grasp the concept of a lot of the Web 2.0 Search Engines and communities, but do you think there is any real traffic there yet? Do you really think that is where everything is headed?

I'm not sold yet.

What are you going to say is the definition of web 2.0? Social style sites? The one I see as really having some social aspect to it is pornusers.com. People really are writing back and adding some value to the site. What else would be considered web 2.0?

Blogs are web 2.0... I would say a lot of them are doing quite well.

One thing I keep thinking of and right now I don't have the answer, but I think having some type of robust api or some type of small standard first put out there for general interactoin with affiliate programs. Rather than having to even go into an affiliate area... maybe you could pull some amazing xml page/feed that would contain all the information about sites, etc. in it.

(I'm totally brainstorming now)...

But you would be able to then parse that data and in real time either update your databases so you could aggregate that data. Every which way. So would be like mega RSS feeds. But not just blog posts.

example:
If you ran a TGP since it was a standard now the TGP software you would just have to plug in the url of your xml feed(s) and it would know when a new gallery had been posted and it could insert that into the tgp database, or for link lists would know to insert it in. Or at least pull it in and wait for the webmaster approval, or a rethumb, but things really could become more automatted.

Basically saying things could really be taken a step further in automation. Heck have a news part of the feed as well so you could have a dashboard type application that would even have what was contained in the updates, or messages about the fact that promos are happening, etc.

slkdfjslkdfj msg has gotten too long.. most people if you made it this far... i don't know if I even made sense or am on topic.

Cheers,
B

[Preacher]

"Excuse me, but "proactive", "paradigm" and "Web 2.0"? Aren't those just buzzwords that dumb people use to sound important? Not that I'm accusing you of anything like that... I'm fired aren't I?"

Ok, so maybe I added the Web 2.0 part.

[walrus]

I would have to agree with ronnie, in the porn realm there is very little for porn. I get a trickle of traffic from a few of the web2.0 places but nothing that would cause me focus more than I do in that area.

[Greenguy]

I'm working on marketing Web 4.0 so that I'll be YEARS ahead of everyone once Web 3.0 is discovered in 2014.

[Allfetish]

I know one guy that does really well with it. He got very lucky such that 50% of his traffic comes from a web 2.0 style site. He hit it at just the right time and got a good foothold in the results with little competition.

[LowryBigwood]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I grasp the concept of a lot of the Web 2.0 Search Engines and communities, but do you think there is any real traffic there yet? Do you really think that is where everything is headed?

I'm not sold yet.

I'm not sold yet either, but it makes sense that change happens. The old shit will eventually get washed out in favor of the newer style type of sites that offer new features you may not find on cookie cutter tgps, linklists, or mgps. In my opinion, we will all have to go with the flow and accept change and technologies as they become available to us. It is very hard for me to imagine everything will just stay the same.

[LowryBigwood]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I'm working on marketing Web 4.0 so that I'll be YEARS ahead of everyone once Web 3.0 is discovered in 2014.

Well in that case, I am going to start Web 5.0 and take over.

[Greenguy]

I'l still convinced that people find porn via 2 methods - word of mouth & search engines.

So regardless of if it's a link list or a blog or a board or a tube site or a pic post, odds are the surfer found it via one of those 2 methods.

So build things that people & search engines will like & you'll be all set

[emmanuelle]

You can get the same 20 signups from 1000 super targeted web 2.0 hits as you can from a jillion purchased tgp skimmed circle jerked 'hits'.

[spookyx]

what ever happened to tgp2

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I'm working on marketing Web 4.0 so that I'll be YEARS ahead of everyone once Web 3.0 is discovered in 2014.

You're such an innovator. But is Web 3.0 already out. I mean there's this WWW stuff every where

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Toby

The inmates are running the asylum, so individual results will always be a crap shoot.

Very true.

[Sunny Side]

http://del.icio.us/search/?fr=del_ic...=porn&type=all

5887 bookmarks in del.icio.us - yeah, no chanses with Web 2.0

[Useless]

I've deliberately avoided this thread because I despise the term Web 2.0 and I've been very pleased to see others mock it. Things on the Internetssss don't work like software distributions - there are not marked upgrades or changes that make it differ from one day to the next. Whoever came up with that term was very clever, but everyone who has used it after him should be slapped. Present company excluded, of course.

Usually, people are referring to sites which are interactive and allow a certain amount of content control and editing by surfers who have become part of the site's free membership. Commenting, reviewing, content rating/voting, social-networking, and the uploading of content by members are some pretty typical characteristics.

How many adult sites really allow for that type of interaction with their surfers?

[Pasha]

"Web 2.0" base principle is social activity and collaboration of it's users.
And porn users are mostly anti-social in their activities and don't need that socialization-collaboration at all. Also active socializers somehow don't like adult stuff.

I have "social web-proxy site" (users can share/hide their activities, browse history and bookmarks). Expected adult traffic. Result? 95% social networking activities like MySpace and Friendster. Adult traffic - something like 0.5% (Middle East visitors mostly).

[sabin]

I think people are less likely to share their porn preferences with other people. Thats the idea behind social bookmarking.

But maybe they don't want people to know they really like asian midget bondage. Ya know.

[JamesSmart]

Nah not yet

[Useless]

Originally Posted by JamesSmart

Nah not yet

Thanks for your input, you pathetic cocksucker.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Thanks for your input, you pathetic cocksucker.

Don't scare away the newbies - let them get comfy before they get to experience your brand of pleasantness

[spazlabz]

Here is the thing that I find kind of ironic about the 'interactive' web 2.0 thing. Its an old technique that never got life. Dial in amateurshomepage.com in the way back machine and that was a free, user submitted content site with a BBS and a chat.. a friend of mine built the chat for Roger way back in the day. I helped the guy (rog)move from a 100% free site to a members site. The interactivity there was GREAT! I got to know a lot of people from around the world and see the girls naked all the time... this was back in 1996-97 as I was just learning about 'making money' with porn.

Now it is called Web 2.0... go figure

But if you can develop a relationship with your audience there is going to be money in it for you.

spaz

[TheDoc]

Hey Jay.. I have hit social 2.0 sites in mainstream and adult. I did/do get traffic from it, always some but not always a lot.

I finally figured out what the largest advantage was, in my opinion. Yes, sometimes you will get bursts of traffic - however you always get free backlinks, and with very little social interaction from visitors it can create free-easy-continual backlinks.

Adult and mainstream wise, I did not do so well directly trying to make money from the traffic, but the advantages to easy backlinks was clear.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

But if you can develop a relationship with your audience there is going to be money in it for you.

Yup...that is true. The thing with porn, even though most people love it -- they don't want to come out in the open with it. Adult stuff is still a "dirty little secret for most people" -- therefore it has a long way to go in Web 2.0