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Useless 2007-02-11 03:54 PM

Vegas, all I know is this - I work my ass off to gain every rotten little SE hit I can get. That's why it burns my ball hair to discover someone pulling my potential traffic using black hat trickery. As I stated earlier in the thread, I don't want to reveal everything, but at least one of your pages appears in Google search which should only display pages on my domain. It's black hat and it hurts us all. :(

JaceXXX 2007-02-11 03:57 PM

UW, do you know if there is a way to get links manually removed from google without a whole site getting removed? It would be definitely handy in this case

Useless 2007-02-11 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX (Post 331134)
LOL, make up your mind

it was an honest mistake man, he gave you a perfectly reasonable response....anyone looking in with an unbiased view would think you might be making a little more out of this than necessary

WHO THE FUCK IS EVEN TALKING TO YOU? Do you know who I am? DO YOU KNOW WHO THE FUCK I AM??? Okay, so I'm nobody, but that's not the point. |club|

Purchasing and employing a black hat SEO script is not an honest mistake.

BTW, anyone with an unbiased view who takes the side of an SE spammer can go fuck themselves. Especially you, Jace. Go fuck yourself.

Useless 2007-02-11 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX (Post 331136)
UW, do you know if there is a way to get links manually removed from google without a whole site getting removed? It would be definitely handy in this case

Too late, I've reported it via Google's spam report. Homie don't play.

DangerDave 2007-02-11 04:00 PM

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I was not intentionally doing this to harm anyone otherwise the script would still be up and running don't you think?
So what was your intention..???

If the scripts only purpose is to steal other peoples work and use it for you advantage, what was your intention?

Were you hoping the script would make you a cup of coffee??!.

A SCRIPT on your server controlled by you and working for you IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY!

If the "naughty script" goes out and steals keywords images and page structures from other peoples site...
YOU ARE THE THIEF not the SCRIPT!

DD

Greenguy 2007-02-11 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX (Post 331136)
UW, do you know if there is a way to get links manually removed from google without a whole site getting removed? It would be definitely handy in this case

You can do it thru their webmaster tools section after you register yourself & prove it's your domain.

Preacher 2007-02-11 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX (Post 331134)
...it was an honest mistake man, he gave you a perfectly reasonable response....anyone looking in with an unbiased view would think you might be making a little more out of this than necessary

I guess I'm not unbiased then.

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Originally Posted by MM-Vegas (Post 331125)
Anyhow back to the point at hand, yes this was an seo script that is the same script being sold by STB on GFY. I was attempting to make use of the script and after a week or two of playing with it found I neither had the time nor energy to make it work correctly. However, since you seem not to know what this script is, it automatically will build a page depending on what a surfer types in, if someone types in Raven it will pull from googles images pictures of raven that, when clicked on, will go to the image themselves. If your image was linked to it was done so because it was indexed in Google’s images.

I had intended to make some use of the script through more research but have found, as I stated above, I neither have the time nor energy to play with it and tweak it to work correctly and have pulled it from my server. Cached pages…well I can do nothing about those. Anyhow it’s obvious that you are not going to be satisfied with any explanation given but there it is.

So I don't get it. Are you saying that the hotlinking of these images without a link to their hosted location was only a side effect of the script not being set up correctly? If so - much like DD - I'd be very curious as to the harmless intent of a "Blackhat SEO Script".

fr0gman 2007-02-11 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 331034)
Well, it seems to me that you are an ignorant cunt. Hotlinking is hotlinking. If you are too fucking stupid to see how hotlinking from anyone, let alone your own god damned affiliate, is WRONG - then I'm amazed your brain can handle the processes which keep your filthy little body alive.

They weren't just hotlinking Google Images, they were also hotlinking an image directly from my site - IDIOT.

And how do you address the abuse of Raven Riley keywords and images in order to gain traffic for Dirty Daisy, moron?

Where do you get off coming at me that way? You are nothing more than a keyboard commando with an obvious lack of understanding of how the world works.

I assure you that if you knew me or anything about me you would take a much different approach. I strongly encourage you to address me in a different manner in the future.

Now, let's address your statements...

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 331034)
Well, it seems to me... . Hotlinking is hotlinking. If you are too to see how hotlinking from anyone, let alone your own god damned affiliate, is WRONG

Let me understand this... DirtyDaisy provided you with free content to promote and then you get your thong in a twist because that content appeared in a Google scrape. Ok, the simple solution for you, if this is really bothering you is to A) put hot link protection on your site. B) use the robots.txt file to insure that none of your precious SPONSOR PROVIDED content gets into the index.

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 331034)
And how do you address the abuse of Raven Riley keywords and images in order to gain traffic for Dirty Daisy, moron?

I covered this in the original post but since it is obvious that you are a short-bus'er I will cover it again and this time I will type slowly.

In every one of your examples the originating site has a link back to the image location. Anyone with even medium intellect can see that the originating sites are getting tons of inbound links where they would not otherwise.

Take a pill get over this and refrain from calling me the same names that you mother calls you.

Linkster 2007-02-11 07:35 PM

UW - the easiest way to take care of this is to report the issue to Google using the spam report located inside the webmasters tools area (the login sction) as these actually get read - the offending domain should get removed from Google within a day or two
Secondly, and more importantly, while I see both sides as I know how those scripts work and they do scrape the links that Google has pointing back to your site, you are very correct in that if someone does something whether intentional or not (although in this case the use of a tool like that makes it intentional no matter what) - they are held responsible the same way any program is for anything that is outside the relationship boundries we tend to develop in the biz.

This is very similar to what one sponsor has been doing for many years (Dave will back me up on this one) and still does it to this day - which has led to that sponsor being blacklisted many places (although they are evidently going out of business now) and the loss of many WMs promoting them.

SmokeyTbear 2007-02-11 09:02 PM

smokey here .

I'm the guy who created this script.

Let me start off by saying this was a one time sale to a select group of people ( i.e. under 20 ) that have this script..

I should also explain what this script does..

It scours the web for videos using PUBLIC api's from various se's like google and yahoo.

In essence it combined the ability of google images google video yahoo images and yahoo video into one search engine.

The content is pulled much the same way google pulls its content for its own se..

with one BIG BIG difference..


Here is an example of my script in action

http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/fiona-apple.html

it links to each image or video directly , in addition it shows a random image/video "inline" as a top result" , under these top results are backlink to the owner of the content.. so im giving credit to each and every owner of the content show inline..

After looking thru the copy i notice this portion was deleted in the copy he was given from the template..

The entire script is template driven so as to allow easy manipulation of the page layout..

There is a built in ability to have certain sites "banned" from being displayed if the need arises.

In cases like this i like to leave it up to the program owner to decide what to do . If someone doesnt want their content displayed honestly we dont need it and isnt worth the hassle , im always glad to not list your media on the site hru the ban database.

but i should remind you , google and yahoo api's are publicly available and being used.. and they DONT give you a backlink , wheras my site does..

zack2004 2007-02-11 09:04 PM

Black hat = BAD
Sorry to here about the penis destruction pills, UW |couch|.

SmokeyTbear 2007-02-11 09:04 PM

i take full responsobility as i gave him the template with the missing credit in the template , but i assure you, i built this script with webmasters in mind.

JaceXXX 2007-02-11 09:11 PM

you know, I just noticed, and I didn't before, that the script actually does give a link back....LOL...jesus, I have never seen someone complain about getting a free one way link, the time are a changin I guess

and just to clarify, from my standpoint, this isn't really "black hat" at all.....

fr0gman 2007-02-11 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX (Post 331179)
you know, I just noticed, and I didn't before, that the script actually does give a link back....LOL...jesus, I have never seen someone complain about getting a free one way link, the time are a changin I guess

and just to clarify, from my standpoint, this isn't really "black hat" at all.....

The people complaining (at least as far as my research on this board shows) would complain about the rain and sunny weather.

Seems like I pointed that out the link back in the beginning and was called some rather unflattering names for which I am still awaiting an apology.

My guess is that once people begin to see the actual way this script works the vocal minority will fade into the woodwork like all keyboard commandos.

JaceXXX 2007-02-11 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman (Post 331180)
The people complaining (at least as far as my research on this board shows) would complain about the rain and sunny weather.

Seems like I pointed that out the link back in the beginning and was called some rather unflattering names for which I am still awaiting an apology.

My guess is that once people begin to see the actual way this script works the vocal minority will fade into the woodwork like all keyboard commandos.

i think you sir, have hit the nail on the head

http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/useless-warrior.html

fr0gman 2007-02-11 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX (Post 331181)
i think you sir, have hit the nail on the head

http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/useless-warrior.html

I think I remember seeing a post on another board that starts with a G and ends with a Y that said, "Stop your bitching because someone out SEO'ed you."

I am not sure if that applies here but it just came to mind.

BTW, if you read the TOS for any search engine it will tell you that ANY SEO is against the TOS and therefore "blackhat".

The only thing I hate worse than a whiner is a tattletale.

zack2004 2007-02-11 09:33 PM

Judging from the last url in JaceXXX's post, I think I'm headed for a nice quite bunker in Cheyenne Mountain (move over Mr VP) until this over |goodidea .

JaceXXX 2007-02-11 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zack2004 (Post 331183)
Judging from the last url in JaceXXX's post, I think I'm headed for a nice quite bunker in Cheyenne Mountain (move over Mr VP) until this over |goodidea .

dude, that is dynamically generated on the fly

http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/zack2004.html

zack2004 2007-02-11 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX (Post 331184)
dude, that is dynamically generated on the fly

Wow, what will they think up next? |haha

fr0gman 2007-02-11 09:51 PM

My personal favorite is: http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/whoringwives.html

DangerDave 2007-02-11 10:45 PM

You people obviously went to the *** school of webmaster ethics... Fuck everyone else as long as your making money... |thumb nice!


It is really quite simple....... you are using other peoples images and text and keywords to create pages that benefit yourself.... that is called theft, copyright infringement , and trademark infringement..

Luckily Google will be right on to shit like this and it is unlikely to last more than a few days..


http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/whoringwives.html - I feel a DMCA coming on!

and that hidden text...................
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... that the script actually does give a link back
..and that is meant to equal the infringements and bandwidth use?? Jeez thats big of you..! Pity the link "rotates" and only points to the true owner occasionally.:(

I don't care if spammers have a link to me, they still get reported and DMCA'd, and in fact if they have a link to me, I make sure I get the pages taken down..



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Stop your bitching because someone out SEO'ed you
LOL, now that is funny... I don't think any one here got "out SEO'd", I think someone with a script that generates copyright/trademark infringements and SE spam got noticed... whooppee!

What I really want to know is who PAID for the script? and is there a money back guarantee??


DD

SmokeyTbear 2007-02-11 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerDave (Post 331189)

It is really quite simple....... you are using other peoples images and text and keywords to create pages that benefit yourself....

Congrats you just defined what a search engine is.

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Originally Posted by DangerDave (Post 331189)
What I really want to know is who PAID for the script?

they were lined up hand over fist.. read above , only a few people got the script ..

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Originally Posted by DangerDave (Post 331189)
and is there a money back guarantee??


DD

actually there is and was at any time :)

SmokeyTbear 2007-02-11 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerDave (Post 331189)

I don't care if spammers have a link to me, they still get reported and DMCA'd, and in fact if they have a link to me, I make sure I get the pages taken down..

better hit up google and yahoo then because its the same thing except they dont give you any credit..



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Originally Posted by DangerDave (Post 331189)
I think someone with a script that generates copyright/trademark infringements and SE spam got noticed... whooppee!

get off the glue thats not at all what its about , its an se script , live with it.. dont want your stuff on google read their faq's on how to remove yourself from se's ,what you are reading is pulled from google. so it will be removed when google removes you from its index.
I dont control google

fr0gman 2007-02-11 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerDave (Post 331189)

I don't care if spammers have a link to me, they still get reported and DMCA'd, and in fact if they have a link to me, I make sure I get the pages taken down..

Please send me a DCMA so that my attorney can promptly send you a GFY.

fr0gman 2007-02-11 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTbear (Post 331191)
get off the glue thats not at all what its about , its an se script , live with it.. dont want your stuff on google read their faq's on how to remove yourself from se's ,what you are reading is pulled from google. so it will be removed when google removes you from its index.
I dont control google

I seem to recall suggesting this too.... hmmmm.

"I'm gonna tell Google on you." Fuck that! You people man up and hone your skills or STFU. The days of being able to get ahead by the same-old-same old are long gone.

You people amuse me.


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