I think I remember seeing a post on another board that starts with a G and ends with a Y that said, "Stop your bitching because someone out SEO'ed you."

I am not sure if that applies here but it just came to mind.

BTW, if you read the TOS for any search engine it will tell you that ANY SEO is against the TOS and therefore "blackhat".

The only thing I hate worse than a whiner is a tattletale.

Judging from the last url in JaceXXX's post, I think I'm headed for a nice quite bunker in Cheyenne Mountain (move over Mr VP) until this over |goodidea .

dude, that is dynamically generated on the fly

http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/zack2004.html

Wow, what will they think up next? |haha

My personal favorite is: http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/whoringwives.html

You people obviously went to the *** school of webmaster ethics... Fuck everyone else as long as your making money... |thumb nice!


It is really quite simple....... you are using other peoples images and text and keywords to create pages that benefit yourself.... that is called theft, copyright infringement , and trademark infringement..

Luckily Google will be right on to shit like this and it is unlikely to last more than a few days..


http://www.smokeycash.com/bh/whoringwives.html - I feel a DMCA coming on!

and that hidden text...................
...... is sooooooooooooooo 90's!(and completely useless)


..and that is meant to equal the infringements and bandwidth use?? Jeez thats big of you..! Pity the link "rotates" and only points to the true owner occasionally.:(

I don't care if spammers have a link to me, they still get reported and DMCA'd, and in fact if they have a link to me, I make sure I get the pages taken down..



LOL, now that is funny... I don't think any one here got "out SEO'd", I think someone with a script that generates copyright/trademark infringements and SE spam got noticed... whooppee!

What I really want to know is who PAID for the script? and is there a money back guarantee??


DD

Congrats you just defined what a search engine is.

they were lined up hand over fist.. read above , only a few people got the script ..

actually there is and was at any time :)

better hit up google and yahoo then because its the same thing except they dont give you any credit..



get off the glue thats not at all what its about , its an se script , live with it.. dont want your stuff on google read their faq's on how to remove yourself from se's ,what you are reading is pulled from google. so it will be removed when google removes you from its index.
I dont control google

Please send me a DCMA so that my attorney can promptly send you a GFY.

I seem to recall suggesting this too.... hmmmm.

"I'm gonna tell Google on you." Fuck that! You people man up and hone your skills or STFU. The days of being able to get ahead by the same-old-same old are long gone.

You people amuse me.

I never thought i would see the day that normal webmasters bitch and moan about a search engine script giving them free backlinks

geez, this biz never ceases to amaze me

You people don't amuse me... I think it's sad that you are so ill-informed.


So you people think that if something is listed in Google then it is fair game for your site/pages???

You are sadly mistaken...!

I give/gave/have given permission for Google to use/post/display more text pages and images.. but you know I never gave Trolls Incorporated persmission, so when Trolls Incorporated uses my text/images etc, it is copyright and trademark infringement.


It is really quite simple..

Frogman, if you really have an "attorney" get him to explain it to you.... better yet,.. get him(or her) to come here and explain it to you.. so we don't have to explain it again to the next bunch of cowboys.


DD

FREE BACKLINKS??!!
WTF!!

Backlinks from script generated, non-relevant, google scraped spam pages............. LOL if that is the best backlinks you can get.. good luck to you :D

DD

LOL...this place is hilarious

thanks for the laugh guys, I am goin to bed

no what I am saying is i am a search engine just like google

explain the difference ?


you have given permission to google and most people haven't, my search engine is the same as google its an opt-out not opt-in. I never asked nor gave permission for google to display my site on their se.. google and yahoo have given me permission to use their results on my site in the form of PUBLIC api's [/quote]

it is quite simple that why i have a hard time understanding why your upset.. If you dont want your publicly accessable pictures or text to be seen , dont give public access to them..

lol script generated pages are bad ? LOL
relevence is your on opinion.

se's seem to think otherwise :)

Check how many backlinks google has given you lately. :) ZERO..

mine gives you 1 .. now lets see , if you had 1 ice cream are you better off than having 0 ice creams ?

You may not like the type of ice cream but its ice cream none the less :) and its better tha no ice cream..

Oh OK.... so you are equivalent to Google now.?? is that what you are trying to tell me?

Ok... so if I give you a list of our x hundred domains you will make sure your script never "scrapes" them...?


OK so if I post something ON MY SITE, you think that you have the right to do what you want with what I have posted.. because it's now "public"?! is that right?

Last I saw "public domain" use of copyrighted material/images went out with the ark....


Of course they are...... because they are generated se spam pages that have the same format/structure.

Ok.. so now you work for Google and know how many backlinks I have?



.... and to complete the demonstration of your extensive ignorance in regard to Google...........

Yes.... without question.... I would rather have NO LINKS than one from script generated, non-relevant, google scraped spam pages.

DD

yes a search engine is a search engine is a search engine , are you telling me google has inherent right to do things others shouldnt ?

exactly , thats how google works.. same way my site doesnt "scrape" your site in any way it collects data from publicly accesible api's given by the se's for web developers to use on their site

your barking up the wrong tree , tell yahoo not to give out api's

i didnt say that at all , i certainly have the right to link to it, thats what makes the internet the internet.

last i heard se's were exempt thats how google gets to do it and every other popular search engine. they certainly dont wait for people to submit their pages LOL


hmm relevent pages with relevent content.. and your beef is the pages look the same ? so does this forum .. i guess greenguy is a spammer
look if your going to act like a child i will treat you like one..

.... and to complete the demonstration of your extensive ignorance in regard to Google...........

YOU dont have ANY "BACKLINKS from google dipshit..

googl doesnt give credit for sites found in their results . go look at their robots.txt you will see why

|banghead|


unfortunately thats not how search engines work, they dont ask permission first.


How is every page having relevent content " non-relevant" are you brain dead ? hello this forum is script generated you idiot..

Not only was there no back link, it was also hotlinking an image directly from me, not just Google Images. Was that part of the template or did Vegas add that himself?

Also, shall I assume that the dynamic page bearing my domain name, which was posted by your frog-friend, will appear in the SEs after Google (and others) bot this thread? I would consider that injurious to my domain. That single link back, buried on the page, won't count for shit against the excessive use of my domain name in both text and images.
How is your unbiased opinion coming along? As Smokey just admitted, I received no back link. So you're just blabbering.

Frogboy - eat me.

A little off topic but why is there a "T" in SmokeyTBear?

Read up in th thread.. the script is built on a template system , as i explained his template didnt have the credit part in his template that i gave him because it was a test server just like the one posted above

I cant stop google from spidering greenguy nor can i stop them spidering my site. Thats how search engines work. The script is on a test server that has no pages listed in google , it was an example of how the script works, if your truly worried about it , like i said theres a proper way to have your stuff removed from the se's and i'd be appy to work with you , if not thats your choise

I hate to have to explain what a domain is but here goes.. YAHOO is not a domain , YAHOO.com is a domain

Are you trying to tell me that people arent allowed to mention the name of a domain ?? cmon now lol are you telling me you have never mentioned a site name on your site ?

You ask google everytime you say "google" ?

If you dont want se's crawling your site TURN IT OFF. Did i give you permission to mention my site above ? nope

so its do as i say not as i do ?

Should google remove greenguy because it has hotlinked pictures with 0 credit ?




I understand its a somewhat confusing issue for you , but theres no point being rude, we are all on the same team of life

Smokey, this is not at all a confusing topic for me. I really don't understand why you feel it necessary to talk down to me.

Where did I say or imply that I didn't want Google crawling and indexing my pages? You are making an absurd assumption or you aren't quite comprehending my posts.

What I don't want is for surfers to go to Google, type in "mydomainname" (as a compound word, obviously searching for my site) and get YOUR page with it's one BURIED link back. I, and any other reasonable non-cheating webmaster, would perceive that as traffic theft. If a friend links to my site, or mentions my site on theirs, that's fine. But if someone deliberately uses my site's name in order to gain traffic for themselves while creating a potential loss for me, that, I take as a hostile move against my interests.

So I'm left to assume, since you don't care to address the point directly, that your script and the template you created is at fault for directly hotlinking the image from my site, as seen in G's cache of his page. This entire thread is based upon the hotlinking of a single image - which I have since deleted. You can keep taking this thread away from that point, but all it does draw more attention to the fact that Vegas of MadMoolah hotlinked one of my images, most likely due to your less than honest script.

By the way, we are most definately not on the same team. I pride myself in being an honest, hard working webmaster.

You said you dont want the word of your site being displayed on se's or partularly my se yet you dont seem to understand how search engines work..

You place a txt file in your root directory outlining what folders you dont want to give public access to.

Once you do that your site wont be displayed on se's like mine.

then block access to se's im not going to keep explaining to you how to use a fucking se
google is traffic theft ? your talking crazy talk ..

se's commit traffic theft by linking to you ?

|banghead|

you mentioned my site above , i didnt give you permission are you a traffic thief ?

nobody deliberatley used your site name , its an se , go to google type in your name guess what results..


try reading the thread.. pay close attention to the post that i ack's it was my fault for giving him the template without the courtesy link because it was a test script.
that you yourself have done am i correct ?

That both yahoo and google do , but neither of them give you backlink and furthermore yahoo disables your google adsense code and all cookie and javascript on your site..

um ok..

Holy Fuck! You are a complete imbecile! Truly, you have me astonished at your utter fucking stupidity. I am in awe.

That is the bottom line. Simple issue that never seemed to get covered always only what the script does in google and yahoo.

Woohoo! Look at all the great links I'm getting for free! Wow, these inventive new SEs are genius. I'm going to have to get a bigger mailbox to handle all of the checks! |boobies|
http://www.fusker.lv/index.php?lid=3...ringwives.com&

So if Fusker links back to you after hotlinking all your images, it's ok.

Good to know |thumb

Of course! But these modern SEOs don't like to use the term hotlinking. They prefer dynamic image indexing or assfucking.

my search script it neither fusker nor does it hotlink all your pics. its a search engine just like google or yahoo.

thanks for explaining that you dont understand the difference between a backlink and a link to a picture that wont give you any credit

Don't call me a dipshit ya fucking trogolodyte!


Answer this one question for me....

Why did you make this script?


Answer that and it should become clear why I think you are bloodsucking, parasitic, free-loader!

DD

I think the key word there is "all"

So hotlinking some, most, a few, half or just one is ok?

you tell me ? are there hotlinked pictures on this forum ?

Is it ok when yahoo does it with all your pics then offers them to webmasters like myself to use ? even offering the ability ( that i chose NOT to use ) of searching by domain..

Sorry, I didn't realize that my facetiousness would put you beyone your depth. I'll try to use small words and avoid any humor, if possible.

don't call me a trogolodyte dipshit :D

to allow users to offer the ability to search yahoo , google and youtube at the same time. not a hard concept.

Infact i can explain exactly how i came up with the idea..

One day i noticed 3gb of bandwidth from yahoo images for the month.

So i go and check and i notice yahoo has disabled my adsense code and disabled cookie tracking and disabled all my movies and javascript.. leaving only the picture , with no profit for me. and NO backlink

So i decided , i should build a system that HELPS webmasters by offering the EXACT same service but WITH backlinks so the webmaster gets to make money

Sounds like you have already made up your mind..

Idiot, you are NOT a search engine. I, and many others, deliberately allow Yahoo and Google Images to hotlink our images while blocking all other hotlinking cunts, such as yourself. What don't you understand about this? How may we assist a small mind like yours in grasping that which is so obvious to the rest of us? Sincerely, we're here to help. Even retarded webmasters deserve our love.

See it' is all becoming clear now...

You say you made this for "users", but you sold it to webmasters.
(I am going to assume that by users you meant surfers, or else you would have used the term 'webmaster')

If you did mean 'webmasters' when you said users , then why do 'webmasters' need "the ability to search yahoo , google and youtube at the same time"


but then you say.... "a system that HELPS webmasters by offering the EXACT same service but WITH backlinks so the webmaster gets to make money"

So far the only webmasters that has had any gain or loss out of it is UW and he lost bandwidth. That is not an outcome he desired.

DD

if you really want i can take out the "top picture" on my test script if it makes you feel better but to be honest its not going to make a difference, that version i posted was just to showcase how it works so unless google is typing in its own searches it wont get found. I cant make the rest of the internet comply but i can pass along your worries to the few people that have the script..

Some friendly advice though. lots of people are using these api's as they are handed out by se's for webmasters to use these results on their own site. so its kind of silly to be worried about the guys on the end of the chain.. your much better off getting your content takes off the se's by using the appropriate bots text as mentioned earlier

go look it up .. maybe you dont understand the concept of what a search engine is , i dont have the time to teach you the basics of the internet son.
So far all you have explained is you dont know how a search engine works , dont want your stuff removed and dont know how to keep bots from crawling your site, your childish and cant answer a single question posed.. a real winner here folks..

Based on your understanding of the internet, there is NO CHANCE IN HELL that you could teach anyone anything.........

DD