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ecchi · 2003-10-13, 12:03 PM

Whoa there soldier, throttle back a bit. You say "I just started a new free site this week....my first" then you say "My plan is to add more content and turn it into a pay site". You should maybe consider walking before you start running, unless you have a desperate desire to loose a few thousand dollars. Paysites are expensive to run (I can tell you from experience) and unless you are intending to use the "rip of surfers and get as much money before they realize" approach, (which from what you say I don't think you are, you seem to want to run a good site), you are going to have to look to spending a lot of money each week to keep updating your paysite.

First off work at getting traffic to your free site, if you want to run paid sites, set up a few AVS sites so you get experience in running on the pay model. Do not even consider running a paysite until you are getting a few thousand good hits a day, or you will end up getting so few members that you will loose a fortune (it is no good spending a few hundred dollars a week or even a month on fresh content for your members if you are only getting $80 a month in membership fees).

I would suggest you spend next weekend reading through as many articles as you can on the many adult webmaster sites that you will find on the net.

As to your existing site, it is a great site, but no good as a free site, it has much to much free content on it, no one who visits it will want to spend more on a "members area" and most of the good link lists will not link to a free site with that much free content on it.

However one suggestion I have that I think will solve all your problems, is a scheme run by Adult Verifier. They have a program for sites with 1000+ pictures that is run like an AVS, but because it only has big sites on it sells like a paysite. You can find them at:
http://www.adultverifier.com/cgi-bin...ters.cgi?42986
take a look at it (click on the link that says "Ultra" to see the program I am talking about).

If I was you, the first thing I would do would be to sign up your existing site on their Ultra program, then use several small sets of your photos to set up several free sites with 20-40 pictures on each one, and advertise your main "Ultra" site on them (something like "the rest of this series, and over a thousand more photos, are on my main site"). Also try TGP posting and pic posting (if your content license allows) to push your Ultra site (to start with put your TGP galleries on a free host until you are certain you can afford the bandwidth).

Sorry if I seem a bit negative in places, but you are making some of the same mistakes that I made when I started, and I spent a lot of time and a lot of money digging myself out of the hole I had dug myself into before even beginning to get where I am today and I want to save you from the same expenses and time wasting that I did.

2003-10-13, 12:03 PM	#8
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	Whoa there soldier, throttle back a bit. You say "I just started a new free site this week....my first" then you say "My plan is to add more content and turn it into a pay site". You should maybe consider walking before you start running, unless you have a desperate desire to loose a few thousand dollars. Paysites are expensive to run (I can tell you from experience) and unless you are intending to use the "rip of surfers and get as much money before they realize" approach, (which from what you say I don't think you are, you seem to want to run a good site), you are going to have to look to spending a lot of money each week to keep updating your paysite. First off work at getting traffic to your free site, if you want to run paid sites, set up a few AVS sites so you get experience in running on the pay model. Do not even consider running a paysite until you are getting a few thousand good hits a day, or you will end up getting so few members that you will loose a fortune (it is no good spending a few hundred dollars a week or even a month on fresh content for your members if you are only getting $80 a month in membership fees). I would suggest you spend next weekend reading through as many articles as you can on the many adult webmaster sites that you will find on the net. As to your existing site, it is a great site, but no good as a free site, it has much to much free content on it, no one who visits it will want to spend more on a "members area" and most of the good link lists will not link to a free site with that much free content on it. However one suggestion I have that I think will solve all your problems, is a scheme run by Adult Verifier. They have a program for sites with 1000+ pictures that is run like an AVS, but because it only has big sites on it sells like a paysite. You can find them at: http://www.adultverifier.com/cgi-bin...ters.cgi?42986 take a look at it (click on the link that says "Ultra" to see the program I am talking about). If I was you, the first thing I would do would be to sign up your existing site on their Ultra program, then use several small sets of your photos to set up several free sites with 20-40 pictures on each one, and advertise your main "Ultra" site on them (something like "the rest of this series, and over a thousand more photos, are on my main site"). Also try TGP posting and pic posting (if your content license allows) to push your Ultra site (to start with put your TGP galleries on a free host until you are certain you can afford the bandwidth). Sorry if I seem a bit negative in places, but you are making some of the same mistakes that I made when I started, and I spent a lot of time and a lot of money digging myself out of the hole I had dug myself into before even beginning to get where I am today and I want to save you from the same expenses and time wasting that I did.