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Originally Posted by JD

Hi all, I like this board, which brings me to post here

I was a webmaster back in 99, so stuffed around with free sites a bit and then into avs for years and it died a horrible death (avs), and so did my bank account, oh well |confused|
Then I did galleries for a while (yukk), hated them, lots of work for little result imho. So three weeks ago I've gone back to my free site stuff, where I really started, back when there was only 6 or so big sponsors around . Now I see theres zillions and zillions of them.

My questions based on the new breed of free site builders follows:

1. Can you still make a living creating free sites these days? Probably a dumb ass question considering all the people on here that make them, unless you all do it part time )

2.Are there any sponsors that basically you just won't get listed with (even if you have 2 day old content from them)? For example, I've been using deecash and I like them, dont seem to have a problem with getting listed, BUT if I used nasty dollars with new content would I still get listed on the major sites? I guess I'm looking for a list of a few sponsors that just wont be accepted at the larger link lists, if thats the case. I imagine its a bit different than the gallery people though, there they are very strict with you having hte same sponsors they have on their sites.

3. I am building one or two free sites each day and submitting them to 20 or so link lists. I know its a difficult question to answer, but how long (ball park figure) is it taking you guys to see lets say a sale a day after submitting every day? I know thats a small ammount of income but I realise things take a long time, like Xallow (sp?), after 3 weeks of solid work, I havent seen much in sales or traffic, but I do realise, like the tgp game(only way its like it), it does take time to get the traffic coming in and getting listed (at ll's and se's). So do you think after 3 months of submitting daily I might see a couple sales a day from the work? (I know its a tough question, depends of multiple factores)

4. Vids or pics these days? I've tried some free movie sites, and pic sites as well, and for some reason, I'm not seeing as much traffic to the movie sites. What are you experienced builders finding? Pics or movies, or a mixture of the two (not on same site, thats a no no I hear?

5. Whats bandwidth like these days making and submitting 1 or 2 sites a day to all the large sites? Is it pretty small? I am used to large BW on the galleries in the past, just wondering if a 10mb server is required in the long run of free site building if you are using movies a lot?

6. Htaccess - do u guys still use it? Do u use something to protect movies as well?

Thanks guys, sorry for all the questions, I've been reading lots on here, and found some good posts, now its just a matter of getting past the pain barrier of building until I can see some results for the hard work!
I know there wont be the bullshit that you get at gfy with everyone saying they are making millions at this stuff )

JD
(justin)

I can only help you answer a couple of these and I'm sure others will follow.

1) I think you can still make a living with FS but you have to be agressive. It's like anything else, flood the market and sales should come in as long as you keep up with it.

2) I stick with the sponsers GG has listed here and if I don't get listed with their stuff then I move on and just keep submitting. Set it can forget it. I dont dwell much on why they did not accept it, maybe I should as I guess I could get BL if I keep submitting stuff they don't want but I read the rules and submitting something someone does not like cause it's over used IMO should not get you BL. Cheating and not reading the rules will get your BL.

3) Put up some examples and others will tell you whats wrong. Depending on the amount of traffic I would think in 3 months you should have seen 1 or 2. But like you said others factors here so put up some examples and let the more seasoned pros give better advice on that.

4) I'll let a more seasoned pro work this. I don't deal with vids to much.

5) I would not worry about it till you get an overage bill. There are enough companies out there that you can work with to deal with this old nightmare. I would not buy a server either, not at this time. If you set the site up right and small then you should not really have a problem with page load times, I would think you need a shitload in order to kill your BW. Besides if you are going to go with movies I would let the sponser host that stuff.

6) Yes it's still used and used very often. It's your savor in most cases for blocking crap. And as far as blocking movies I have read two opinons. One says you can do it and one says you can't. The one that said you can't made much more technical sence to me and when I tried it I could not get it to work. I honestly believe you can't protect movies with that file. I think you need software or something. But remember opinons are like assholes. If someone here does have it working I'm sure others here would love to know how.