GG or Jim Newsletter Question

selena · 2004-09-24, 10:42 AM

To the best of my knowledge, I haven't changed any type of settings in my email program. I used to get the newsletter and it looked as you intended it to.

Now when I get it, it's all...weird. The code shows, though the hyperlinks are still hyperlinks, if that makes sense.

It's not a big deal, just makes it hard for me to decipher. I was more curious as to if you knew why it was doing that.

Thanks!

Jim · 2004-09-24, 11:35 AM

selena
We haven't changed anything in forever. I would almost think it could be us but...so far, you are the only person telling us about a problem.

selena · 2004-09-24, 05:02 PM

It appears as if it is on my end then. Just weird, since it came normally, then changed.

It's not that big a deal for me to copy it to dreamweaver to be able to read it.

Thanks Jim!

cd34 · 2004-09-24, 05:07 PM

have any spam filtering?

A common spam prevention tactic is to change the header of a text/html to text/plain which would cause the code to come through.

This prevents webbugs, etc from tracking whether you read it and is used to prevent malicious html from installing software.

Just a thought.

selena · 2004-09-25, 11:15 PM

Hey cd34...

I appreciate your input. I went to look, and my spam protection is set to off. I remember doing that to make sure that any important porn related emails could get through.

So that isn't it, but I sure appreciate it. You told me something I didn't know, and the day didn't get away without me learning something.

Opti · 2004-09-26, 04:28 PM

Sounds suspiciously like a sympton of someone who now has XP SP2 (service pack 2) installed.

(but that doesnt explain why no one else has issues)

urb · 2004-09-26, 04:47 PM

Just tried the newsletter with SP2 + Outlook Express and "plain text" switched off.

All images are blocked by SP2, it says... "to prevent the sender from identifying your computer."

But when you click the bar to allow the images, the newsletter looks fine.

Jim · 2004-09-26, 05:30 PM

I just can't understand why anyone would use outlook with so many better email clients out there for free.

Surfn · 2004-09-26, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urb
Just tried the newsletter with SP2 + Outlook Express and "plain text" switched off.

All images are blocked by SP2, it says... "to prevent the sender from identifying your computer."

But when you click the bar to allow the images, the newsletter looks fine.

When are you going to turn on your ICQ?

selena · 2004-09-26, 05:37 PM

Opti, I have held off on installing SP2, so that isn't it. Though it does sound like some of the issues I have heard people speak of.

~listens to urb & Jim~

I'm not using Outlook. I hate it. The newletter goes to a web based email account.

~thinks~

Jim, can I change my newletter to go to my ISP email? That would at least let me know if the problem replicates.

Jim · 2004-09-26, 05:39 PM

I have been told that there are problems with web based email and the newsletter. Go ahead and unsubscribe your address and then add a new one.

Cleo · 2004-09-26, 05:42 PM

Works and looks fine in Mail.app

I have my prefs set to not load images until I ask it to but it looks perfect once I hit load images.

selena · 2004-09-26, 05:51 PM

Sorry, Jim, that was kind of a no-brainer on my part. I wasn't seeing the subscribe/unsubscribe links for some reason.

Cleo, it isn't really that it isn't showing images. Here is a snippet of how the last newsletter looked to me:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Greenguy And Jim's Newsletter</title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#EFEFE6" text="black" link="BROWN" vlink="BROWN" alink="red">
<table align="center" border="1" cellspacing="0" width="583" bordercolor="BROWN" bordercolordark="BROWN" bordercolorlight="BROWN" cellpadding="3"><font face="Arial" size="3">
<tr>
<td>

<div align="center"><a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/"><font face="Arial"><img src="http://www.greenguyandjim.net/graphics/mailerlogo.jpg" width="583" height="123" border="0"></font></a></div>
<hr width="70%" color="BROWN">
<font face="Arial"></font>
<div align="center"><font face="Arial" size="3"><b><font color="BLACK">~What's Going On At GreenguyandJim on September 24, 2004~</font></b></font></div>
<font face="Arial"></font>
<hr width="70%" color="BROWN">
<font face="Arial"><BR>

</font>

cd34 · 2004-09-27, 11:05 AM

Can you look at the actual email source? I'll bet that the attachment is labelled text/plain rather than text/html. That would probably be done upstream -- its a common tactic called defanging mime types.

--Apple-Mail-18--376424074
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

This is similar to what you will see -- I will bet that the header just prior to the email newsletter is getting set to text/plain on your system rather than the default setting of text/html.

This is typically a mail server issue.

2004-09-24, 10:42 AM	#1
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	GG or Jim Newsletter Question To the best of my knowledge, I haven't changed any type of settings in my email program. I used to get the newsletter and it looked as you intended it to. Now when I get it, it's all...weird. The code shows, though the hyperlinks are still hyperlinks, if that makes sense. It's not a big deal, just makes it hard for me to decipher. I was more curious as to if you knew why it was doing that. Thanks! __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-09-24, 05:02 PM	#3
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	It appears as if it is on my end then. Just weird, since it came normally, then changed. It's not that big a deal for me to copy it to dreamweaver to be able to read it. Thanks Jim! __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-09-25, 11:15 PM	#5
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	Hey cd34... I appreciate your input. I went to look, and my spam protection is set to off. I remember doing that to make sure that any important porn related emails could get through. So that isn't it, but I sure appreciate it. You told me something I didn't know, and the day didn't get away without me learning something. __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-09-26, 04:47 PM	#7
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Just tried the newsletter with SP2 + Outlook Express and "plain text" switched off. All images are blocked by SP2, it says... "to prevent the sender from identifying your computer." But when you click the bar to allow the images, the newsletter looks fine. __________________

2004-09-26, 05:37 PM	#10
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	Opti, I have held off on installing SP2, so that isn't it. Though it does sound like some of the issues I have heard people speak of. ~listens to urb & Jim~ I'm not using Outlook. I hate it. The newletter goes to a web based email account. ~thinks~ Jim, can I change my newletter to go to my ISP email? That would at least let me know if the problem replicates. __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-09-24, 11:35 AM	#2
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	selena We haven't changed anything in forever. I would almost think it could be us but...so far, you are the only person telling us about a problem.

2004-09-24, 05:07 PM	#4
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	have any spam filtering? A common spam prevention tactic is to change the header of a text/html to text/plain which would cause the code to come through. This prevents webbugs, etc from tracking whether you read it and is used to prevent malicious html from installing software. Just a thought.

2004-09-26, 04:28 PM	#6
Opti I Didn't Do It Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: au Posts: 795	Sounds suspiciously like a sympton of someone who now has XP SP2 (service pack 2) installed. (but that doesnt explain why no one else has issues)

2004-09-26, 05:30 PM	#8
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I just can't understand why anyone would use outlook with so many better email clients out there for free.

2004-09-26, 05:39 PM	#11
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I have been told that there are problems with web based email and the newsletter. Go ahead and unsubscribe your address and then add a new one.

2004-09-26, 05:42 PM	#12
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Works and looks fine in Mail.app I have my prefs set to not load images until I ask it to but it looks perfect once I hit load images. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-09-26, 05:51 PM	#13
selena Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the edge Posts: 592	Sorry, Jim, that was kind of a no-brainer on my part. I wasn't seeing the subscribe/unsubscribe links for some reason. Cleo, it isn't really that it isn't showing images. Here is a snippet of how the last newsletter looked to me: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <title>Greenguy And Jim's Newsletter</title> </head> <body bgcolor="#EFEFE6" text="black" link="BROWN" vlink="BROWN" alink="red"> <table align="center" border="1" cellspacing="0" width="583" bordercolor="BROWN" bordercolordark="BROWN" bordercolorlight="BROWN" cellpadding="3"><font face="Arial" size="3"> <tr> <td> <div align="center"><a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/"><font face="Arial"><img src="http://www.greenguyandjim.net/graphics/mailerlogo.jpg" width="583" height="123" border="0"></font></a></div> <hr width="70%" color="BROWN"> <font face="Arial"><!--Begin Change Date--></font> <div align="center"><font face="Arial" size="3"><b><font color="BLACK">~What's Going On At GreenguyandJim on September 24, 2004~</font></b></font></div> <font face="Arial"><!--End Change Date--></font> <hr width="70%" color="BROWN"> <font face="Arial"><BR> <!--Begin News--></font> __________________ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Skype selena.delgado9 ICQ 273551440

2004-09-27, 11:05 AM	#14
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	Can you look at the actual email source? I'll bet that the attachment is labelled text/plain rather than text/html. That would probably be done upstream -- its a common tactic called defanging mime types. --Apple-Mail-18--376424074 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed This is similar to what you will see -- I will bet that the header just prior to the email newsletter is getting set to text/plain on your system rather than the default setting of text/html. This is typically a mail server issue. __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android