Looking for SPACASH support

sawaporn · 2005-04-28, 05:47 PM

I had a unpleasant situation - to me the letter with the message has come that my account is closed also I banned. I have contacted Arti , it have told that I fraud and have ceased to communicate with me. I would like any explanations - why my account has been closed.

Useless · 2005-04-28, 07:55 PM

You may want to try Jim's Help Desk. http://www.greenguysboard.com/helpdesk/index.html He can act as a middleman so that no one's dirty laundry gets dragged out. At the very least he may be able to get a better explanation out of them.

Jim · 2005-04-28, 07:56 PM

Thanks Useless...
Always here to help

sawaporn · 2005-04-28, 08:57 PM

Tnx guys, I write the letter.

Gerard SPACash · 2005-04-28, 09:38 PM

Please contact tony@spacash.com

american perv · 2005-04-28, 09:48 PM

This is Tony from SPACash, this webmaster has been banned becasue he is frauding the system. He is using a front in the USA called "Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC." All the account we have that are from Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC. have Russian sites listed and run fraud.

Useless · 2005-04-28, 11:09 PM

Well, so much for not airing the dirty laundry.

Mishi · 2005-04-29, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Well, so much for not airing the dirty laundry.

Can't fault you for lack of effort.

Sigurd · 2005-04-29, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by american perv

This is Tony from SPACash, this webmaster has been banned becasue he is frauding the system. He is using a front in the USA called "Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC." All the account we have that are from Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC. have Russian sites listed and run fraud.

Stop guys, I've read your Terms & Conditions 2 minutes ago, and I don 't see any words about Russian webmasters. If you don't accept them, you HAVE TO write it in your Terms & Conditions, as others do.
In any case "Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC." is a 3d party company Check2Fet, which allows russian webmasters to make processing of checks really quickly. If you use russian banks it is very very long process. I also don't see any words in your Terms & Conditions about payments to 3d party companies.
Now explain us, please, this situation!

american perv · 2005-04-29, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

Stop guys, I've read your Terms & Conditions 2 minutes ago, and I don 't see any words about Russian webmasters. If you don't accept them, you HAVE TO write it in your Terms & Conditions, as others do.
In any case "Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC." is a 3d party company Check2Fet, which allows russian webmasters to make processing of checks really quickly. If you use russian banks it is very very long process. I also don't see any words in your Terms & Conditions about payments to 3d party companies.
Now explain us, please, this situation!

I don't have anything against Russian webmasters. I do have a problem with people using a a front to commit fraud with. I started to notice a pattern of seeing account with the Dean Arrow name. Not a big deal, we don't have anything against multiple accounts. But a couple of the accounts assiocated with Dean Arrow caught the attention of our fraud department and after reviewing all the charges we determined they accounts were commiting fraud. I will not go into to how we do this here, if you want to know, feel free to ICQ me, 19375153.

If you run a program, then you are familar with what is called "carding" I have seen carder forums that discuss which affilate sites are the best to rip off and how to do it.

Need any more proof?? ICQ me and I'll send you the URL of the fraud forums

Sigurd · 2005-04-29, 03:03 PM

Ok, Arty, but can you explain me, by what reason did you ban all this accounts? They are not multiple accounts, they are just people, who use 3d party processing for checks.
In any case, I think that would be better not to ban all accounts but ask people to change their info to the real one? Isn't it? I think that would be really great for you and all people would be sure, that if there are any problems, you first will try to solve them and not ban people and try to understand situation after it!!!

I've contacted you by ICQ, if you didn't get my message, please contact me at 176541498, I know the owner of this company and I'm sure he would be interested in this information. I'll give him a link to this topic.

american perv · 2005-04-29, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

Ok, Arty, but can you explain me, by what reason did you ban all this accounts? They are not multiple accounts, they are just people, who use 3d party processing for checks.
In any case, I think that would be better not to ban all accounts but ask people to change their info to the real one? Isn't it? I think that would be really great for you and all people would be sure, that if there are any problems, you first will try to solve them and not ban people and try to understand situation after it!!!

I've contacted you by ICQ, if you didn't get my message, please contact me at 176541498, I know the owner of this company and I'm sure he would be interested in this information. I'll give him a link to this topic.

If they are using this company as a 3rd party processor for checks, then why do they elect to be paid via epassporte?

I might have jumped the gun to quick in judging all of the accounts as fraud, I will double check them

Sigurd · 2005-04-29, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by american perv

If they are using this company as a 3rd party processor for checks, then why do they elect to be paid via epassporte?

I might have jumped the gun to quick in judging all of the accounts as fraud, I will double check them

LOL, topicstarter used epassporte payment? In this case where did he write "Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC." info?

I can't tell for everyone, who use this company, but I exactly know, that topicstarter isn't a carder. I also know, that he didn't break any of your rules and you banned him without trying to solve it with him. Do you think it's a good way to show, that you are interested in your affiliates?

I'm also sure if you'll ask him to change payment info to his own address instead of 3d party, he'll do it!

american perv · 2005-04-29, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

I've contacted you by ICQ, if you didn't get my message, please contact me at 176541498, I know the owner of this company and I'm sure he would be interested in this information. I'll give him a link to this topic.

I sent you an icq, waiting for a reply.

Sigurd · 2005-04-29, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by american perv

I sent you an icq, waiting for a reply.

Hmmm, didn't get anything.
And what about topicstarter? Can you allow him to continue to work with you with his old account?

american perv · 2005-04-29, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

Hmmm, didn't get anything.
And what about topicstarter? Can you allow him to continue to work with you with his old account?

Sent you another ICQ.

I am not unbanning the topic starter. I did unban other accounts.

american perv · 2005-04-29, 04:22 PM

I am having our fraud dept. recheck sawaporn's account. If he was banned by mistake, I will be the first to apologize.

Hardman · 2005-04-29, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by american perv

I am having our fraud dept. recheck sawaporn's account. If he was banned by mistake, I will be the first to apologize.

Thanks for your time.
I hope it was a misunderstanding.

Regards,
Hardman
Check2Fet

sawaporn · 2005-04-29, 08:42 PM

american perv, you ignored my messages in icq, and now insist on dialogue only through icq. I shall write on all adult boards as concerns spacash to adult webmasters, and is assured that the public will support me. There can be everyone wish to learn that spacash are incompetent in the decision of financial problems?

Useless · 2005-04-29, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sawaporn

american perv, you ignored my messages in icq, and now insist on dialogue only through icq. I shall write on all adult boards as concerns spacash to adult webmasters, and is assured that the public will support me. There can be everyone wish to learn that spacash are incompetent in the decision of financial problems?

Allow american perv to investigate this issue and come to a decision before you get carried away. We can all understand your frustration, but we also undertand SpaCash's need to protect themselves from fraudulent activity. If they acted wrongly in suspending your account, you'll certainly have our sympathy, but it's damn hard to bash a sponsor when they are acting to deter fraud.

lordmaster · 2005-05-02, 07:19 PM

I has the same problem with them and also a lot of other webmasters that try this sponsor is the fast way for keep our money. We work promoting and they cancel the account and keep the money with them.

american perv · 2005-05-02, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lordmaster

I has the same problem with them and also a lot of other webmasters that try this sponsor is the fast way for keep our money. We work promoting and they cancel the account and keep the money with them.

I find this interesting for your first post, you choose to bash SPACash. Who have you contacted?

As for sawaporn, he never cotacted me. My icq is always on and I reply to all icq's I get.

I ask you both to ICQ me, 19375153

lordmaster- What was your account, I'll look into it.

sawaporn · 2005-05-05, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by american perv

As for sawaporn, he never cotacted me. My icq is always on and I reply to all icq's I get.

I ask you both to ICQ me, 19375153

lordmaster- What was your account, I'll look into it.

Never contacted????!!!
You say lies, I can post all our dialogue here!
And how long you will check still my account?

sundiver · 2005-05-08, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by american perv

As for sawaporn, he never cotacted me. My icq is always on and I reply to all icq's I get.

As I can see you promised to ask your fraud department to check his account. did they do that? what did they find out?
also I should mention that your terms do not prohibit using third-party financial services to receive payments.

Hardman · 2005-05-11, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by american perv

I am having our fraud dept. recheck sawaporn's account. If he was banned by mistake, I will be the first to apologize.

Do you have any news on this case?

2005-04-28, 05:47 PM	#1
sawaporn Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 67	Looking for SPACASH support I had a unpleasant situation - to me the letter with the message has come that my account is closed also I banned. I have contacted Arti , it have told that I fraud and have ceased to communicate with me. I would like any explanations - why my account has been closed. __________________ porn affiliate sites

2005-04-28, 07:55 PM	#2
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	You may want to try Jim's Help Desk. http://www.greenguysboard.com/helpdesk/index.html He can act as a middleman so that no one's dirty laundry gets dragged out. At the very least he may be able to get a better explanation out of them. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-04-28, 08:57 PM	#4
sawaporn Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 67	Tnx guys, I write the letter. __________________ porn affiliate sites

2005-04-28, 11:09 PM	#7
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Well, so much for not airing the dirty laundry. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-04-29, 03:03 PM	#11
Sigurd Kids are great, Appu. You can teach them to hate the things you hate and they practically raise themselves now-a-days, you know, with the internet and all Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Russia, Saint-Petersburg Posts: 197	Ok, Arty, but can you explain me, by what reason did you ban all this accounts? They are not multiple accounts, they are just people, who use 3d party processing for checks. In any case, I think that would be better not to ban all accounts but ask people to change their info to the real one? Isn't it? I think that would be really great for you and all people would be sure, that if there are any problems, you first will try to solve them and not ban people and try to understand situation after it!!! I've contacted you by ICQ, if you didn't get my message, please contact me at 176541498, I know the owner of this company and I'm sure he would be interested in this information. I'll give him a link to this topic. __________________ Multiplayer online 3D sex-game with real dating! $80/1K uniques.

2005-04-28, 07:56 PM	#3
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Thanks Useless... Always here to help

2005-04-28, 09:38 PM	#5
Gerard SPACash Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2	Please contact tony@spacash.com

2005-04-28, 09:48 PM	#6
american perv If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39	This is Tony from SPACash, this webmaster has been banned becasue he is frauding the system. He is using a front in the USA called "Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC." All the account we have that are from Dean Arrow & Assoc, LLC. have Russian sites listed and run fraud.

2005-04-29, 04:22 PM	#17
american perv If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39	I am having our fraud dept. recheck sawaporn's account. If he was banned by mistake, I will be the first to apologize. __________________ I can resist everything but temptation http://www.spankbank.com

2005-04-29, 08:42 PM	#19
sawaporn Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 67	american perv, you ignored my messages in icq, and now insist on dialogue only through icq. I shall write on all adult boards as concerns spacash to adult webmasters, and is assured that the public will support me. There can be everyone wish to learn that spacash are incompetent in the decision of financial problems? __________________ porn affiliate sites

2005-05-02, 07:19 PM	#21
lordmaster Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1	The same proble I has the same problem with them and also a lot of other webmasters that try this sponsor is the fast way for keep our money. We work promoting and they cancel the account and keep the money with them.