Surpsied no one posted about 2257 2day

juggernaut · 2005-08-02, 09:49 PM

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9793

it is Aug 2/3 right? or have my sleepless nights just threw me off and we are in 2006 already.

“It's obvious that [Judge Miller] believes he has to follow the 10th Circuit decision on Sundance,” attorney J.D. Obenberger told XBiz. “It is less clear what he's going to do on other issues, but you can tell he has some preliminary ideas on things."

Greenguy · 2005-08-02, 09:50 PM

No one posted because $300 gets you 2nd hand info unless you live in Southern California.

juggernaut · 2005-08-02, 09:52 PM

Got ya. lol. I guess Im the pasty lol

madleinx · 2005-08-02, 10:32 PM

You know, I read something about the hearing being rescheduled for a later date on xbiz yesterday. And I went to get the link just now and found the article you linked instead. Guess I have more reading to do....

guitar riff · 2005-08-02, 10:35 PM

Seems like 300 Dollars prolly should have been saved cause ya get the news quicker and more efficicient other ways.

madleinx · 2005-08-02, 10:58 PM

Okay, I just now finished reading that article. This may turn into a rant - I beg your pardon in advance.

The DOJ lawyer gave some examples to the judge of websites that contain "young looking" performers. I'm not familiar with most of them, but Sapphic Erotica is on the list, and I was quite fond of promoting it before June 23. Now, I haven't been in their members area, but they offer a buttload of promo content for affiliates. Not ONE time have I seen a girl I thought might be underage. And I'm picky about that kind of crap. They don't pose the girls with care bears and braces and that other pedo-looking stuff either. So what in the hell are they talking about??

On second thought, I will save the rant for later.

Wazza · 2005-08-02, 11:48 PM

Three of those sites appear to be owned by entities located outside of the US - I certainly hope the DOJ aren't seriously considering applying this bullshit extra teritorially...

tickler · 2005-08-02, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madleinx

The DOJ lawyer gave some examples to the judge of websites that contain "young looking" performers. ...... So what in the hell are they talking about??

If they are that concerned about it, there are already laws in place to deal with it. Without the need for this 2257 BS.

plateman · 2005-08-03, 12:00 AM

well I read the whole thing and it looks like I hope us secondary producers are gonna be exempt.. anyone agree or disagree...

Lunatic · 2005-08-03, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

No one posted because $300 gets you 2nd hand info unless you live in Southern California.

So that's where the lawyers work on their tans.

juggernaut · 2005-08-03, 01:48 AM

[quote=madleinx]
Sapphic Erotica is on the list/... So what in the hell are they talking about??
QUOTE]Well the problem here is the older we men get the harder and harder it is to tell how old girls are. Think about it laywers in there upper 50's or 60's look at women in their mid 30's like they are 25, where as 30 and 40 yr old men look at 25 yr olds like they are 18, and 25 yr old boys look at 14 yr old girls like they are 25 lol.

nekrom · 2005-08-03, 02:58 AM

When all the hoha and kerfuffle is over, someone wanna give me ahoi and i'll go back to cheap usa hosting again.

-N

SirMoby · 2005-08-03, 09:17 AM

Looking at Sapphicerotica.com it's obvious to me that many of those models were in their 20s when shot but I know the models, I have the IDs and I know when they started. We're in the business and it's easy for us to tell these things but from a stiff suit that sits in an office all day it would be hard to tell.

Personally I think it's a great site to use as an example. It's owned over seas. The content was shot over seas. The models are mostly in thier 20s and many have appearded in hardcore videos for major producers.

Even a small look into this site would show that the new regulations would have NO effect on this perfectly legal site.

mikeyddddd · 2005-08-03, 04:04 PM

What's 2257?

jk

juggernaut · 2005-08-03, 06:49 PM

just 4 numbers placed together to make one large one. lol

2005-08-02, 09:49 PM	#1
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Surpsied no one posted about 2257 2day http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9793 it is Aug 2/3 right? or have my sleepless nights just threw me off and we are in 2006 already. “It's obvious that [Judge Miller] believes he has to follow the 10th Circuit decision on Sundance,” attorney J.D. Obenberger told XBiz. “It is less clear what he's going to do on other issues, but you can tell he has some preliminary ideas on things."

2005-08-02, 09:50 PM	#2
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2005-08-02, 10:32 PM	#4
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2005-08-02, 10:58 PM	#6
madleinx Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Big Easy, or Disneyland for Grown-Ups Posts: 120	Okay, I just now finished reading that article. This may turn into a rant - I beg your pardon in advance. The DOJ lawyer gave some examples to the judge of websites that contain "young looking" performers. I'm not familiar with most of them, but Sapphic Erotica is on the list, and I was quite fond of promoting it before June 23. Now, I haven't been in their members area, but they offer a buttload of promo content for affiliates. Not ONE time have I seen a girl I thought might be underage. And I'm picky about that kind of crap. They don't pose the girls with care bears and braces and that other pedo-looking stuff either. So what in the hell are they talking about?? On second thought, I will save the rant for later. __________________ <A HREF="http://apps.ClickCash.com/cgi/cc_refer.exe?acct=JUSTMARIE" target="_top">$40 PPS and up on FREE signups! All niches and tons of promo content!</A>

2005-08-02, 09:52 PM	#3
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Got ya. lol. I guess Im the pasty lol

2005-08-02, 11:48 PM	#7
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	Three of those sites appear to be owned by entities located outside of the US - I certainly hope the DOJ aren't seriously considering applying this bullshit extra teritorially... __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2005-08-03, 12:00 AM	#9
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	well I read the whole thing and it looks like I hope us secondary producers are gonna be exempt.. anyone agree or disagree... __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here

2005-08-03, 01:48 AM	#11
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	[quote=madleinx] Sapphic Erotica is on the list/... So what in the hell are they talking about?? QUOTE]Well the problem here is the older we men get the harder and harder it is to tell how old girls are. Think about it laywers in there upper 50's or 60's look at women in their mid 30's like they are 25, where as 30 and 40 yr old men look at 25 yr olds like they are 18, and 25 yr old boys look at 14 yr old girls like they are 25 lol.

2005-08-03, 02:58 AM	#12
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2005-08-03, 09:17 AM	#13
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	Looking at Sapphicerotica.com it's obvious to me that many of those models were in their 20s when shot but I know the models, I have the IDs and I know when they started. We're in the business and it's easy for us to tell these things but from a stiff suit that sits in an office all day it would be hard to tell. Personally I think it's a great site to use as an example. It's owned over seas. The content was shot over seas. The models are mostly in thier 20s and many have appearded in hardcore videos for major producers. Even a small look into this site would show that the new regulations would have NO effect on this perfectly legal site.

2005-08-03, 04:04 PM	#14
mikeyddddd A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 57	What's 2257? jk __________________ mikey likes it

2005-08-03, 06:49 PM	#15
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	just 4 numbers placed together to make one large one. lol