Who are the top 20 programs?

xxxjay · 2005-12-07, 06:32 AM

I was in a drunken discussion with a few friends last night about who the top 20 programs were. My friends seems to think that are in the top 10 but I don't even think we make it into the top 20.

What I am talking about is perception…who do you think are the top 20?

None of these programs are going to post their real numbers and if they do -- there is is 99% chance that they are embellished.

What do you consider the top 20 programs?

Ramster · 2005-12-07, 08:47 AM

Top 20? That is a big list. I assume you mean sales and not profit. I'll start off.

Nasty Dollars
Bang Bros
Top Bucks
Silver Cash
Traffic Cash Gold
Adult.com
AFF
Brain Cash
AEBN
Sunny Dollars
Flash Cash
Flynt Dollars
Light Speed
Pussy Cash
Medium Pimpin
Gamma
NS Cash

That's a start.

Jan Barnes · 2005-12-07, 09:29 AM

How about Maxcash? It used to be gigantic, but I guess removing the trial option on most of their sites was not the best idea ever. I would think Topbucks also runs a pretty big program.

Greenguy · 2005-12-07, 09:38 AM

ARS
Pimp Roll
Sunny Dollars
SIC Cash
Adult Paymaster
Platinum Bucks
WEG Cash
Flash Cash
Adult Players Club
Slick Cash
Pussy Cash
Silver Cash
Niche Wealth
Traffic Cash Gold
Massive Dollars
Brain Cash
Adult Cash
Porno Pushers
Fetish Hits
Quick Buck

1st person to post a referral code gets banned

xxxjay · 2005-12-07, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

ARS
Pimp Roll
Sunny Dollars
SIC Cash
Adult Paymaster
Platinum Bucks
WEG Cash
Flash Cash
Adult Players Club
Slick Cash
Pussy Cash
Silver Cash
Niche Wealth
Traffic Cash Gold
Massive Dollars
Brain Cash
Adult Cash
Porno Pushers
Fetish Hits
Quick Buck

1st person to post a referral code gets banned

So you think Quickbuck is bigger than Nasty Dollars or Topbucks?

Greenguy · 2005-12-07, 07:52 PM

I just grabbed the top 20 from my stats

Linkster · 2005-12-07, 09:06 PM

Thats the problem with this question Jay - and I posted it on the other board you asked this question - you have to define top - whether you mean in conversions for a particular WM, the leading net profits, the gross income - there are a lot of different ways to define "top"

xxxjay · 2005-12-07, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster

Thats the problem with this question Jay - and I posted it on the other board you asked this question - you have to define top - whether you mean in conversions for a particular WM, the leading net profits, the gross income - there are a lot of different ways to define "top"

All we can ever know is our top based on our traffic. It isn't a math question...it a perection question. I want to see what people think.

emmanuelle · 2005-12-07, 10:09 PM

Some of those listed, I have never even heard of

gobgook2 · 2005-12-07, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

All we can ever know is our top based on our traffic. It isn't a math question...it a perection question. I want to see what people think.

Exactly. For me, some of the usual suspects (Top Bucks, BangBros, DeeCash, PimpRoll, Jason & Alex, et al) don't apply. They don't come close on my top anything list in either # of signups, total $ , etc. Pretty much any program that touts "Best conversions on the net" or "Give us your traffic and we'll make the stitching in your pockets burst" usually matches up with the overused/overpromoted list and don't yield anything for me. (Would be thrilled to get into that discussion another time in a new thread...) What usually ends up on the top end of my list are smaller more amateur sites, not really any of the huge programs. I'm one of those guys that has 60 programs in my statsremote and only 2 or 3 of them actually produce for me.

Ramster · 2005-12-08, 12:59 AM

I think what xxxjay means is top in terms of what people think are the top sponsors that generate sales. He is looking for people's perception on this. That is why he questioned a list without Nasty Dollars.

One of my top is Danni.com but I doubt they are in the top 20 compared to the huge programs out there.

ARS and MaxCash 2 years would be in there for sure but not now I doubt.

Linkster · 2005-12-08, 06:52 AM

Jay - thats the problem - most peoples perception of "large programs" (and when I say most I mean the whole community not just the LL owners here) are based on either the stats they see everyday or the rants about a program on a board and have nothing whatsoever to do with their real "bigness" - a good example would be topbucks that you used - while Greenie doesnt have them I know they would be one of your top sellers and one of mine as well. And where Greenie has ARS towards the top, I know it doesnt take much to be in the top50 WMs in sales for them so I can get a feel for how big they are.
On the other hand - there are some people that do things like one niche extremely well and their stats may show NS as their top program where you might not even have a link to their sites (dont know for sure LOL)

Heck Im sure that there are some people that would say a pill pusher or video reseller is a top program so while youre correct that it is perception - everyones perception will be jaded by their own experiences, as well as what gets posted by people they respect.

Jan Barnes · 2005-12-08, 09:32 AM

Linkster,

One way to define size would be to look at the number of people employed by one of the sites. The number of individuals working for an organization may imply the true size of the business, though this may not always hold true. For the companies listed above, on average how many people would they employ on a full time basis?

Ramster · 2005-12-08, 09:37 AM

No links to NS? Blastphemy!!!!!!!!!

Linkster · 2005-12-08, 09:44 AM

Jan - unfortunately Id say that the number of full time employees would be a bad indicator as so many things are outsourced with most programs today - some of the largest programs have only 3 or 4 employees while much smaller programs have many more

emmanuelle · 2005-12-08, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan Barnes

Linkster,

One way to define size would be to look at the number of people employed by one of the sites. The number of individuals working for an organization may imply the true size of the business, though this may not always hold true. For the companies listed above, on average how many people would they employ on a full time basis?

I'd have to disagree- there are many successful operations that run on skeletal staffs. As we learned from the dot bombs, bloated, overstaffed companies equates neither successful nor profitable.

stuveltje · 2005-12-08, 01:25 PM

if i have to make a list for top sponsors 2004 yeah then i have an totally different list then the rest posted here if i have to post a top for 2005 i have only 4
1:my paying boss 1
2:topbucks
3:my paying boss 2
4:my paying boss 3

i couldnt resist, gg dont hit me

whitey · 2005-12-09, 05:51 PM

I could probably come up with a top 10:

1. Top Bucks
2. Nasty Dollars
3. Brain Cash
4. Silver Cash
5. AFF
6. Lightspeed
7. Adult.com
8. Flynt
9. Flash Cash
10. NS Cash

Useless · 2005-12-09, 05:58 PM

So the question is...which top 20 programs are 'perceived' to be the 'biggest' regardless of sales?

kit · 2005-12-09, 06:47 PM

My top 15 (I guess)

Nasty Dollars
Top Bucks
Sic Cash
Bang Bros
Silver Cash
Traffic Cash Gold
CybernetBucks
Brain Cash
Triplex Cash
ATK Cash
Light Speed
Gamma (all programs)
ARS
Platinum Bucks
NS Cash

Chop Smith · 2005-12-09, 06:48 PM

My favorite progam has not been mentioned. Damn, I am a busy man but I don't guess I will make it to that million before I am thirty

kit · 2005-12-09, 07:00 PM

I forgot about two good programs:
KarupsPC
Adult Players Club

tickler · 2005-12-10, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I'd have to disagree- there are many successful operations that run on skeletal staffs.

Makes me think of a couple of my clients. The larger(about $3B/year) runs on about 50 employees, but, they have their fingers in about 500 different suppliers.

Vivaldi · 2005-12-10, 07:52 AM

2-3 years back I'd say MaxCash & ARS were the only one worth mentioning but that was purely on revenue that they made me. Now I tend to look at all those 'little things' as a big plus for a program like support, content, rewards, banner & tour design ... did I say revenue!? :-) So the list got bigger (in no particular order):
PimpRoll
ARS
TrafficCash
SliverCash
AdultFriendFinder
TopBucks
*************
FetishHits
SunnyDollars
PussyCash

I general I'd say Linkster got it right ... the ones that don't work good for me, unfortunately, I really have no idea how big they are.

Papa · 2005-12-10, 09:20 AM

I haven't made real money with any of those sponsors even after 8 years online !
I think you really need to find something that not too many "joe webmaster" advertise.
Also, niche sites like "gay white midgets ass fucked by big black men" hehehehehehe
Anyways, you get the point. It's useless these days to signup for a big program thinking you'll make big bucks with them. Unless you were there when they started or almost.

2005-12-07, 06:32 AM	#1
xxxjay You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,787	Who are the top 20 programs? I was in a drunken discussion with a few friends last night about who the top 20 programs were. My friends seems to think that are in the top 10 but I don't even think we make it into the top 20. What I am talking about is perception…who do you think are the top 20? None of these programs are going to post their real numbers and if they do -- there is is 99% chance that they are embellished. What do you consider the top 20 programs? __________________ Circle Of Violence

2005-12-07, 08:47 AM	#2
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,867	Top 20? That is a big list. I assume you mean sales and not profit. I'll start off. Nasty Dollars Bang Bros Top Bucks Silver Cash Traffic Cash Gold Adult.com AFF Brain Cash AEBN Sunny Dollars Flash Cash Flynt Dollars Light Speed Pussy Cash Medium Pimpin Gamma NS Cash That's a start. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2005-12-07, 09:29 AM	#3
Jan Barnes A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 53	How about Maxcash? It used to be gigantic, but I guess removing the trial option on most of their sites was not the best idea ever. I would think Topbucks also runs a pretty big program. __________________ <a href="http://www.xxxcash.com/RS/rsid-130760/">Celebrities, Nude Soldiers & More!</br><img height="50" src="http://www.xxxcash.com/img/rsid-130760/120x60.gif" border="0" width="120"></a>

2005-12-07, 09:38 AM	#4
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2005-12-07, 07:52 PM	#6
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2005-12-07, 09:06 PM	#7
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Thats the problem with this question Jay - and I posted it on the other board you asked this question - you have to define top - whether you mean in conversions for a particular WM, the leading net profits, the gross income - there are a lot of different ways to define "top" __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-12-07, 10:09 PM	#9
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2005-12-08, 12:59 AM	#11
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,867	I think what xxxjay means is top in terms of what people think are the top sponsors that generate sales. He is looking for people's perception on this. That is why he questioned a list without Nasty Dollars. One of my top is Danni.com but I doubt they are in the top 20 compared to the huge programs out there. ARS and MaxCash 2 years would be in there for sure but not now I doubt. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2005-12-08, 06:52 AM	#12
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Jay - thats the problem - most peoples perception of "large programs" (and when I say most I mean the whole community not just the LL owners here) are based on either the stats they see everyday or the rants about a program on a board and have nothing whatsoever to do with their real "bigness" - a good example would be topbucks that you used - while Greenie doesnt have them I know they would be one of your top sellers and one of mine as well. And where Greenie has ARS towards the top, I know it doesnt take much to be in the top50 WMs in sales for them so I can get a feel for how big they are. On the other hand - there are some people that do things like one niche extremely well and their stats may show NS as their top program where you might not even have a link to their sites (dont know for sure LOL) Heck Im sure that there are some people that would say a pill pusher or video reseller is a top program so while youre correct that it is perception - everyones perception will be jaded by their own experiences, as well as what gets posted by people they respect. __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-12-08, 09:32 AM	#13
Jan Barnes A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 53	Linkster, One way to define size would be to look at the number of people employed by one of the sites. The number of individuals working for an organization may imply the true size of the business, though this may not always hold true. For the companies listed above, on average how many people would they employ on a full time basis? __________________ <a href="http://www.xxxcash.com/RS/rsid-130760/">Celebrities, Nude Soldiers & More!</br><img height="50" src="http://www.xxxcash.com/img/rsid-130760/120x60.gif" border="0" width="120"></a>

2005-12-08, 09:37 AM	#14
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2005-12-08, 09:44 AM	#15
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Jan - unfortunately Id say that the number of full time employees would be a bad indicator as so many things are outsourced with most programs today - some of the largest programs have only 3 or 4 employees while much smaller programs have many more __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-12-08, 01:25 PM	#17
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2005-12-09, 05:51 PM	#18
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2005-12-09, 05:58 PM	#19
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2005-12-09, 06:47 PM	#20
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2005-12-09, 06:48 PM	#21
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2005-12-09, 07:00 PM	#22
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2005-12-10, 07:52 AM	#24
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2005-12-10, 09:20 AM	#25
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