advice on traffic and what makes a good affilate program

scallysports · 2005-12-14, 03:51 PM

Hi

I am quite new to the biz and now ive got a paysite for the content I produce.

I need to know how to get good quality traffic coming in that will convert into £££ I am using google adwords and have a few other links to my site but am only getting 150-200 unique visits a day, is that a lot of visits what should I be aimimg for?

I also have a affiliate program but not sure how or who to promote it to any suggestions?

hope to meet lots of cool knowledgable people

Cheers

Dan

gobgook2 · 2005-12-14, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scallysports

Hi

I am quite new to the biz and now ive got a paysite for the content I produce.

Welcome!

URL?

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I need to know how to get good quality traffic coming in [...] but am only getting 150-200 unique visits a day, is that a lot of visits what should I be aimimg for?

I wouldn't say there's any definitive target number (or method for that matter). QUALITY (relevant) traffic in SMALLER amounts can often be much more fruitful than a MASSIVE amount of shit traffic... Outside of affiliate traffic, you're looking at things like TGP gallery submissions, freesites, potential members area link trades with sites similar to yours, blog, big list of ways to promote...

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I also have a affiliate program but not sure how or who to promote it to any suggestions?

URL? Spamming the program to webmaster boards, if allowed, is probably the easiest way to get affiliates. Unless you'd rather limit your program to only the more established high-traffic/sales producing members of the adult community... Pro's & Con's to both. What you offer to your affiliates in the way of marketing tools will have a pretty big impact as well. Not having seen your program, the common thing that keeps me from joining any program is a total lack of promotable content. The days of "post our banner with your referral code" are long dead. Personally, as a gallery builder, I've got to have content to build galleries out of. TGP owners might want FHG's, LL owners might want hosted freesites, etc etc.

Without seeing your site/program that's the generic recommendations i have

scallysports · 2005-12-15, 01:28 AM

www.scally-sports.com

Mattinblack · 2005-12-15, 08:16 AM

200 uniques a day is not a lot of traffic. I get that already on strange attractor and I have done no promotion at all on the site cos its still in beta, folk seem to be finding it off my sextracker counter and bookmarking it where its changing every day. You are welcome to add a link on strange attractor just make sure you describe your site properly as a paysite and give it a good thumbnail... submit in several categories with different thumbnails if you want. If you dont mention paysite in the link text I dont mind - lots of folk just click on links and dont bother switching to gallery view. Just give me a nice recip some place on your site. Anywhere that reachable by google and that has some text on the page will do. Mail me as webmaster at kwikfire dot com to tell me where the recip is and I will accept your link. Traffic on site will increase dramatically in a few weeks time when I am dead sure script is stable and promotion starts.

ronnie · 2005-12-15, 09:20 AM

Your affilate program should be closed until you know what your doing. Do you know how the paysite converts? How it retains? You should'nt open a affiliate program until you have tested the site throughly to make sure it sells and keeps members, otherwise you could be wasting other webmasters hard earned traffic and in the end getting a bad rep for your program. Not giving you a hard time, just something to think about.

As for promoting your paysite, usually you keep the paysite clean of traffic leaks and use feeders to bring in the traffic. Feeders could be free sites, avs sites or tgp galleries that advertise your paysite. I personally would'nt be spending money on adwords until you know the site sells and retains, could be wasting alot of cash.

ronnie

gobgook2 · 2005-12-15, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scallysports

www.scally-sports.com

Great advice all around about being well-tested and researched before opening up the affiliate doors

As for your existing affiliate signup pages, you never mention what the "deal" is 50% revshare, etc. Beyond that, I can't say with any backing stats how much influence a site name has over the actual interest and sales (especially across different countries), but I'm willing to bet you'll find a pretty large majority of US surfers have no clue what the hell "Scally" is supposed to mean...

Main Entry: scally
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: having a scaly scalp or scalp infection

Main Entry: scally
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: scallywag, miscreant
Usage: abbreviated slang form
..
Here's hoping it's the latter!

ronnie · 2005-12-15, 12:02 PM

I have no idea what scally is myself or how it pertains to an adult site.

ronnie

Halfdeck · 2005-12-15, 01:34 PM

Biggest problem I see with your site is the java applet. I would avoid using any java because when the hard drive starts grinding, some surfers will close the window.

xray · 2005-12-19, 06:06 PM

200 hits a day is very small traffic
adwords right now is only a waste
you're not ready yet for your own aff prog
but is this paysite your first and only site (in adult)?
this is not the best choice to start with a paysite

Elias · 2005-12-19, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfdeck

Biggest problem I see with your site is the java applet. I would avoid using any java because when the hard drive starts grinding, some surfers will close the window.

And Google doesn't like Java either. Plain HTML + some needed php will do better I guess.

scallysports · 2005-12-27, 12:33 PM

Thanks for the advice guys

Matt will get a link added to my site then add to strange attractor,

I have no idea at the moment what the conversion ratios are like but I know that the site is paying for itself.

Xray this is my first paysite but it started out as a free site with just a few photos of me and some mates and as people kept asking for more we started to charge so its developed along the way.

MadMax · 2005-12-27, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scallysports

Thanks for the advice guys

Matt will get a link added to my site then add to strange attractor,

I have no idea at the moment what the conversion ratios are like but I know that the site is paying for itself.

Xray this is my first paysite but it started out as a free site with just a few photos of me and some mates and as people kept asking for more we started to charge so its developed along the way.

It's great to have a site start out for fun then turn into something you can charge for

Sounds like what you're looking to do now is take it to the "next level," and while that will be a lot of time and work from where you are now, if it's already making sales that's a great sign.

scallysports · 2006-01-01, 06:12 PM

maxx your right it just that next step

So after talking to all of you its made me realise I need to become a affiliate so I can learn how to market sites effectively.

So watch out coz I will be asking ??? on TGP's and FHG'S

Cheers

2005-12-14, 03:51 PM	#1
scallysports Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9	advice on traffic and what makes a good affilate program Hi I am quite new to the biz and now ive got a paysite for the content I produce. I need to know how to get good quality traffic coming in that will convert into £££ I am using google adwords and have a few other links to my site but am only getting 150-200 unique visits a day, is that a lot of visits what should I be aimimg for? I also have a affiliate program but not sure how or who to promote it to any suggestions? hope to meet lots of cool knowledgable people Cheers Dan

2005-12-15, 08:16 AM	#4
Mattinblack Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London UK in a house share with three 28 yr old girls...perv perv Posts: 215	200 uniques a day is not a lot of traffic. I get that already on strange attractor and I have done no promotion at all on the site cos its still in beta, folk seem to be finding it off my sextracker counter and bookmarking it where its changing every day. You are welcome to add a link on strange attractor just make sure you describe your site properly as a paysite and give it a good thumbnail... submit in several categories with different thumbnails if you want. If you dont mention paysite in the link text I dont mind - lots of folk just click on links and dont bother switching to gallery view. Just give me a nice recip some place on your site. Anywhere that reachable by google and that has some text on the page will do. Mail me as webmaster at kwikfire dot com to tell me where the recip is and I will accept your link. Traffic on site will increase dramatically in a few weeks time when I am dead sure script is stable and promotion starts. __________________ Mattinblack - <a href="http://pornlinks.kwikfire.com">PornLinks</a> - <a href="http://strange-attractor.kwikfire.com">Strange Attractor</a> - <a href="pnav.kwikfire.com">PORNavigator</a> - <a href="http://ukescort.kwikfire.com/">Fem Escorts</a> - <a href="http://kwikfire.com/">Hosting</a>

2005-12-15, 01:34 PM	#8
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	Biggest problem I see with your site is the java applet. I would avoid using any java because when the hard drive starts grinding, some surfers will close the window. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.

2005-12-15, 01:28 AM	#3
scallysports Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9	www.scally-sports.com

2005-12-15, 09:20 AM	#5
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Your affilate program should be closed until you know what your doing. Do you know how the paysite converts? How it retains? You should'nt open a affiliate program until you have tested the site throughly to make sure it sells and keeps members, otherwise you could be wasting other webmasters hard earned traffic and in the end getting a bad rep for your program. Not giving you a hard time, just something to think about. As for promoting your paysite, usually you keep the paysite clean of traffic leaks and use feeders to bring in the traffic. Feeders could be free sites, avs sites or tgp galleries that advertise your paysite. I personally would'nt be spending money on adwords until you know the site sells and retains, could be wasting alot of cash. ronnie

2005-12-15, 12:02 PM	#7
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	I have no idea what scally is myself or how it pertains to an adult site. ronnie

2005-12-19, 06:06 PM	#9
xray Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 7	200 hits a day is very small traffic adwords right now is only a waste you're not ready yet for your own aff prog but is this paysite your first and only site (in adult)? this is not the best choice to start with a paysite

2005-12-27, 12:33 PM	#11
scallysports Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9	Thanks for the advice guys Matt will get a link added to my site then add to strange attractor, I have no idea at the moment what the conversion ratios are like but I know that the site is paying for itself. Xray this is my first paysite but it started out as a free site with just a few photos of me and some mates and as people kept asking for more we started to charge so its developed along the way.

2006-01-01, 06:12 PM	#13
scallysports Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9	maxx your right it just that next step So after talking to all of you its made me realise I need to become a affiliate so I can learn how to market sites effectively. So watch out coz I will be asking ??? on TGP's and FHG'S Cheers