Building Adult Search Engine

Kim · 2003-10-31, 06:27 AM

In a genuine effort of building independent adult search engine and portal [JoyScape], I need your guys' input. As a webmaster, what facilities you would like to see us implementing, what puts you off or on when you want to get listed in such a newish adult portal (other than obvious traffic generation - which we are making some headway in this direction)

All suggestions are welcome in any aspect to make JoyScape a webmaster friendly place besides being surfer friendly.

If you want to take a look before giving your input, the url is: www.JoyScape.com

cheers

urb · 2003-10-31, 06:49 AM

I think a lot of webmasters are looking for PR (which you have), but your go2.php kind of denies it being passed on.

Apart from that........

Surfn · 2003-10-31, 07:03 AM

Hi Kim

welcome to the board

An interesting project. IMO you are losing tons of potential ad pace with big banners on the results page. Instead I would have 4-5 nice text links.

lordaron · 2003-10-31, 08:36 AM

I just submitted my freesite to your search engine

Hope the project works out well for ya

Kim · 2003-10-31, 10:27 AM

Thx urb.
----------
I know go2.php is a bit of a double edged sword. It's been implemented to avoid rip-off spider bots. Some other well known portals [Yahoo] has been doing the same and asking $600 per year to be or to be considered to be listed, or was it the other way round!

No, I am not comparing JoyScape to "Yahoo". They are #1 while we are hovering around #58000. At present we can just dream being a "Yahoo" type of resource for adult content surfers and webmasters.

Hello surfn,
--------------
Thx. Certainly it's someting we should look into in the near future.

At present we are all piled into building a valuable substance before asking anybody to pay us. Maybe we are overdoing it and start looking for advertising sponsors?

Hello lordaron,
------------------
Thx
I'll get your site listed in your submitted category and JoyScape AVS sites section as you qualified [main page reciprocal] for JoyScape "Preferred Link Partner" status

cheers everybody

urb · 2003-10-31, 03:17 PM

Kim, apart from what I mentioned, I really like your site.

DangerDave · 2003-10-31, 03:59 PM

I dont get it?

Beastiality?
Incest?
Lolitas?
Individual galleries?
No free sites?

DD

urb · 2003-10-31, 04:09 PM

Oooopps, except for the bits that Dave just mentioned.

nancella · 2003-10-31, 04:20 PM

You know you don't have to build a search engine from scratch, you can use our resources and make some nice money off it. We pay our traffic affiliates 50/50 net off the click.

Here are a few Examples of what we can do:

http://www.sexaroo.com/search.php
http://www.wildsex.com/
Private Label - Search Engine

http://www.billywildhack.com/index.shtml
Private Label - Search Box

http://www.smutblaster.com/
Private Label - TGP

Let me know if you want to explore this farther...

Happy Halloween!!!

Greenguy · 2003-10-31, 05:05 PM

nancella - Kim has obviously decided to build an actual search engine (a big one too I might add) so your post is, for lack of a better word, ignorant.

Kim - shitcan the borderline illegal niches & then we'll take another look at it

Kim · 2003-10-31, 05:32 PM

Hello DangerDave,
-------------------
Let us be broad minded adults. Plz remember we do not have any content that you point out on JoyScape, we just list them like others such as Google. However, one area that we feel very strongly and don't list under any circumstances is sites that feature or promote under-age sex and sexual acts. Where did you get the idea of Lolitas???

I'm not clear what you refer to as "Free Sites" and "Individual galleries". Plz enlighten me...

Hello nancella
-----------------
Thx for the offer. I think we are talking on different levels. Money is not the driving force for us. We are trying to build a genuine & ind adult search engine.

cheers to all

Kim · 2003-10-31, 06:01 PM

Hello Greenguy,

Thx, much appreciated.

We are based in the Netherlands. Over here attitute towards sex and sexuality is much more relaxed than many other countries. There again, if we are trying to build a global adult search we need to show some respect to other's feelings and views but NOT those impotent & frigid censorship freaks.

Plz tel me the favourite candidates for the "shitcan" in JoyScape...

Cheers

Greenguy · 2003-10-31, 06:15 PM

I'd shitcan the beasty stuff for sure - I too am not sure where DDave saw the ****** or incest categories - maybe he can shed some light on the subject

DangerDave · 2003-10-31, 08:25 PM

Kim,

I know "your site" doesn't host the content.. but it still links to it..

http://www.joyscape.com/index.php?a=...eywords=incest

http://www.joyscape.com/index.php?a=...eywords=******

http://www.joyscape.com/index.php?a=list&dir=461405

You have 45,000 odd TGP galleries listed on there.. but not one free site? That doesn't make sense to me... and it looks like your a big TGP with some other bits added on.

I realise that the netherlands and europe are a little more open than most.. but as you said aiming for a global audience means looking at your biggest market and their reactions to what you have. I am not saying remove anything.. what you link is your choice.

DD

Kim · 2003-11-01, 07:26 AM

Hello DangerDave,

I am sorry, but I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding your point. I will assume your personal view is that it's wrong for any website to have anything to do with the subjects you have highlighted. Therefore you are against it and they should be banned, barred and so forth. If I'm wrong plz correct me.

In light of the above assumption, I had a look "Danger Search" and found a result for the word "******" and "Incest" Also shouldn't you remove "We will list anything!" phrase from your forum signature? Plz understand, I'm not criticizing you or saying right or wrong for having THE words or the links. I am a true believer of free speech and freedom of choice.

On Monday, when everybody is back, I'll put beasty stuff on the discussion table for whether we should keep it or remove it. I'll announce the outcome here.

I can not accept censoring any word whatsoever. I'm sure you know yourself that some webmasters uses inappropriate words and phrases to describe their site. We don't need to go in detail discussion here. We are living in a multi-dimensional world. Plz try to see more than one of them. Remember they first burned books, then...

Sorry but I can't agree with "and it looks like your a big TGP with some other bits added on" There are plenty more useful, mostly hand picked sites - unlike some who just copies "DMOZ" without even any credit. Perhaps, you didn't have enough time to look around properly.

Again, there are a lot of free sites listed in JoyScape. Just look at any category accept "Membership Sites". Our definition of "FREE" is as the word meant to be. When you ask a fee for a site it's no longer free. Therefore we don't classify AVS sites as free as long as you have to pay to access, no matter how big or small that payment may be. Mind you we still list them.

Maybe you are referring to the sites as free, those offer few Image galleries with plenty of ads. Well we will still list them when they are submitted, as long as it's not overwhelmed with banners and ads. Also, we will not list just an affiliate entry page.

We list direct links to galleries in line of the feedback we get from the JoyScape surfers.

In closing, I have no intention of bitching anybody or their business here. I prefer to provide and receive constructive feedback and help where I can.

cheers

MrMaryLou · 2003-11-01, 08:20 AM

I think what Danger Dave is trying to say some of the stuff your listing may be legal where you are but its sure not in most other places

DangerDave · 2003-11-01, 03:41 PM

Kim,

My personal view has no bearing on what you do... you asked for opinions.. so you got mine

MML made one point better than I could.. If you want to be a everything to everyone "portal", thats fine.... but things like... having beastility links off your front page are not going to help..

DD

Cleo · 2003-11-01, 04:03 PM

Nice looking site, looks like a lot of work went it to it.

Bestiality is legal where I live, but I choose not to list it at my link list. To each their own I always say, but that doesn't mean I will list it. Personally I think it is far worse to kill animals and eat their flesh then to have sex with them, but then I find both pretty fucking gross.

The kind of content you list will reflect the morals of the site's owners. It will also affect who will link to you. I will not exchange links with a site that promotes bestiality and especially ****** stuff.

It is your site so do what you want, but understand you do not operate in a vacuum.

For me this means listing basically anything between two consenting adults. This means nothing under 18 and no animals.

Kim · 2003-11-02, 03:29 PM

Hello MrMaryLou,

Thx for the help. This point has already been noted in my previous massages. My longish answer to DD was to clarify the way it has been put through

Kim · 2003-11-02, 03:36 PM

DangerDave,

Thx for the clarification. Now, I can understand your view about JoyScape much more objectively. And Thx for your patience.

Kim · 2003-11-02, 04:06 PM

Hello Cleo,

Thx. I'm pleased to ascertain that you are one of those lucky ones who can see what they are looking at.

Unfortunately, JoyScape needs much more hard work to make it what we want it to be. Any volunteers..?

What about, if we stick to proper definitions instead of the words that can be interpreted differently by individuals subject to their point of view. I prefer to use the term 'underage sex' instead of the word '******' and other slang. What do you think, Cleo?

We share your views about underage sex and sites that feature such material, 100%

Kim · 2003-11-03, 08:48 AM

As promised, just to let everybody know the result of the JoyScape slaves vote.

Discussion topic was:
Should we drop Bestiality and some other iffy site's listing from JoyScape or not?

25% Voted: Against
70% Voted: For
5% Not Sure

As a result we have now removed all the Bestiality and some other links from JoyScape listing.

I thank everybody for their past and future helpful input.

Ms Naughty · 2003-11-04, 01:09 AM

OK... it's a big ask, but I'd really like to submit my sites to joyscape without having recip... just like a real search engine

OK, I know it's probably not going to happen, but I thought I'd just say it.

Also, is a "free image and movie archive" like a free site? I find that fairly confusing. It seems that there is no definition between tgp-type pages and real free sites with a warning page.

I'm not going to ask for a "for women" free category coz it just gets me into trouble LOL

guitar riff · 2003-11-04, 01:38 AM

Beastiality isnt that where the men are men and the sheep are Scared :-)

Or is it when ya drive by a field of sheep and they all Say daaaaaaddddyyyyy

Had to throw some humor in the mix
|rasta|

RawAlex · 2003-11-04, 02:48 AM

Kim, IMHO, you shouldn't of had to put it to a vote. Bestiality and other wonderful subjects that were listed just ain't good business. The processors of note won't process for it, I don't Visa wants to process for it, so there is no way to turn it into money.

Good luck with it. I hope you don't have to put anything else to a vote that should be that obvious! :-)

Alex

2003-10-31, 03:17 PM	#6
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Kim, apart from what I mentioned, I really like your site. __________________

2003-10-31, 03:59 PM	#7
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	I dont get it? Beastiality? Incest? Lolitas? Individual galleries? No free sites? DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-10-31, 04:09 PM	#8
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Oooopps, except for the bits that Dave just mentioned. __________________

2003-10-31, 05:05 PM	#10
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	nancella - Kim has obviously decided to build an actual search engine (a big one too I might add) so your post is, for lack of a better word, ignorant. Kim - shitcan the borderline illegal niches & then we'll take another look at it __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-10-31, 05:32 PM	#11
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	Hello DangerDave, ------------------- Let us be broad minded adults. Plz remember we do not have any content that you point out on JoyScape, we just list them like others such as Google. However, one area that we feel very strongly and don't list under any circumstances is sites that feature or promote under-age sex and sexual acts. Where did you get the idea of Lolitas??? I'm not clear what you refer to as "Free Sites" and "Individual galleries". Plz enlighten me... Hello nancella ----------------- Thx for the offer. I think we are talking on different levels. Money is not the driving force for us. We are trying to build a genuine & ind adult search engine. cheers to all __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-10-31, 06:27 AM	#1
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	Building Adult Search Engine In a genuine effort of building independent adult search engine and portal [JoyScape], I need your guys' input. As a webmaster, what facilities you would like to see us implementing, what puts you off or on when you want to get listed in such a newish adult portal (other than obvious traffic generation - which we are making some headway in this direction) All suggestions are welcome in any aspect to make JoyScape a webmaster friendly place besides being surfer friendly. If you want to take a look before giving your input, the url is: www.JoyScape.com cheers __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-10-31, 06:49 AM	#2
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	I think a lot of webmasters are looking for PR (which you have), but your go2.php kind of denies it being passed on. Apart from that........

2003-10-31, 07:03 AM	#3
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	Hi Kim welcome to the board An interesting project. IMO you are losing tons of potential ad pace with big banners on the results page. Instead I would have 4-5 nice text links.

2003-10-31, 08:36 AM	#4
lordaron Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 128	I just submitted my freesite to your search engine Hope the project works out well for ya

2003-10-31, 10:27 AM	#5
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	Thx urb. ---------- I know go2.php is a bit of a double edged sword. It's been implemented to avoid rip-off spider bots. Some other well known portals [Yahoo] has been doing the same and asking $600 per year to be or to be considered to be listed, or was it the other way round! No, I am not comparing JoyScape to "Yahoo". They are #1 while we are hovering around #58000. At present we can just dream being a "Yahoo" type of resource for adult content surfers and webmasters. Hello surfn, -------------- Thx. Certainly it's someting we should look into in the near future. At present we are all piled into building a valuable substance before asking anybody to pay us. Maybe we are overdoing it and start looking for advertising sponsors? Hello lordaron, ------------------ Thx I'll get your site listed in your submitted category and JoyScape AVS sites section as you qualified [main page reciprocal] for JoyScape "Preferred Link Partner" status cheers everybody __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-10-31, 04:20 PM	#9
nancella BANNED Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5	You know you don't have to build a search engine from scratch, you can use our resources and make some nice money off it. We pay our traffic affiliates 50/50 net off the click. Here are a few Examples of what we can do: http://www.sexaroo.com/search.php http://www.wildsex.com/ Private Label - Search Engine http://www.billywildhack.com/index.shtml Private Label - Search Box http://www.smutblaster.com/ Private Label - TGP Let me know if you want to explore this farther... Happy Halloween!!!

2003-10-31, 06:01 PM	#12
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	Hello Greenguy, Thx, much appreciated. We are based in the Netherlands. Over here attitute towards sex and sexuality is much more relaxed than many other countries. There again, if we are trying to build a global adult search we need to show some respect to other's feelings and views but NOT those impotent & frigid censorship freaks. Plz tel me the favourite candidates for the "shitcan" in JoyScape... Cheers __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-10-31, 06:15 PM	#13
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I'd shitcan the beasty stuff for sure - I too am not sure where DDave saw the **** or incest categories - maybe he can shed some light on the subject __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network**

2003-10-31, 08:25 PM	#14
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Kim, I know "your site" doesn't host the content.. but it still links to it.. http://www.joyscape.com/index.php?a=...eywords=incest http://www.joyscape.com/index.php?a=...eywords=**** http://www.joyscape.com/index.php?a=list&dir=461405 You have 45,000 odd TGP galleries listed on there.. but not one free site? That doesn't make sense to me... and it looks like your a big TGP with some other bits added on. I realise that the netherlands and europe are a little more open than most.. but as you said aiming for a global audience means looking at your biggest market and their reactions to what you have. I am not saying remove anything.. what you link is your choice. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites** <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-11-01, 07:26 AM	#15
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	Hello DangerDave, I am sorry, but I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding your point. I will assume your personal view is that it's wrong for any website to have anything to do with the subjects you have highlighted. Therefore you are against it and they should be banned, barred and so forth. If I'm wrong plz correct me. In light of the above assumption, I had a look "Danger Search" and found a result for the word "******" and "Incest" Also shouldn't you remove "We will list anything!" phrase from your forum signature? Plz understand, I'm not criticizing you or saying right or wrong for having THE words or the links. I am a true believer of free speech and freedom of choice. On Monday, when everybody is back, I'll put beasty stuff on the discussion table for whether we should keep it or remove it. I'll announce the outcome here. I can not accept censoring any word whatsoever. I'm sure you know yourself that some webmasters uses inappropriate words and phrases to describe their site. We don't need to go in detail discussion here. We are living in a multi-dimensional world. Plz try to see more than one of them. Remember they first burned books, then... Sorry but I can't agree with "and it looks like your a big TGP with some other bits added on" There are plenty more useful, mostly hand picked sites - unlike some who just copies "DMOZ" without even any credit. Perhaps, you didn't have enough time to look around properly. Again, there are a lot of free sites listed in JoyScape. Just look at any category accept "Membership Sites". Our definition of "FREE" is as the word meant to be. When you ask a fee for a site it's no longer free. Therefore we don't classify AVS sites as free as long as you have to pay to access, no matter how big or small that payment may be. Mind you we still list them. Maybe you are referring to the sites as free, those offer few Image galleries with plenty of ads. Well we will still list them when they are submitted, as long as it's not overwhelmed with banners and ads. Also, we will not list just an affiliate entry page. We list direct links to galleries in line of the feedback we get from the JoyScape surfers. In closing, I have no intention of bitching anybody or their business here. I prefer to provide and receive constructive feedback and help where I can. cheers __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-11-01, 08:20 AM	#16
MrMaryLou i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 11,247	I think what Danger Dave is trying to say some of the stuff your listing may be legal where you are but its sure not in most other places __________________ <a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/onthebench/">Join Me For On The Bench </a>

2003-11-01, 03:41 PM	#17
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Kim, My personal view has no bearing on what you do... you asked for opinions.. so you got mine MML made one point better than I could.. If you want to be a everything to everyone "portal", thats fine.... but things like... having beastility links off your front page are not going to help.. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-11-01, 04:03 PM	#18
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Nice looking site, looks like a lot of work went it to it. Bestiality is legal where I live, but I choose not to list it at my link list. To each their own I always say, but that doesn't mean I will list it. Personally I think it is far worse to kill animals and eat their flesh then to have sex with them, but then I find both pretty fucking gross. The kind of content you list will reflect the morals of the site's owners. It will also affect who will link to you. I will not exchange links with a site that promotes bestiality and especially **** stuff. It is your site so do what you want, but understand you do not operate in a vacuum. For me this means listing basically anything between two consenting adults. This means nothing under 18 and no animals. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft** Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-11-02, 03:29 PM	#19
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	Hello MrMaryLou, Thx for the help. This point has already been noted in my previous massages. My longish answer to DD was to clarify the way it has been put through __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-11-02, 03:36 PM	#20
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	DangerDave, Thx for the clarification. Now, I can understand your view about JoyScape much more objectively. And Thx for your patience. __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-11-02, 04:06 PM	#21
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	Hello Cleo, Thx. I'm pleased to ascertain that you are one of those lucky ones who can see what they are looking at. Unfortunately, JoyScape needs much more hard work to make it what we want it to be. Any volunteers..? What about, if we stick to proper definitions instead of the words that can be interpreted differently by individuals subject to their point of view. I prefer to use the term 'underage sex' instead of the word '******' and other slang. What do you think, Cleo? We share your views about underage sex and sites that feature such material, 100% __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-11-03, 08:48 AM	#22
Kim Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 28	As promised, just to let everybody know the result of the JoyScape slaves vote. Discussion topic was: Should we drop Bestiality and some other iffy site's listing from JoyScape or not? 25% Voted: Against 70% Voted: For 5% Not Sure As a result we have now removed all the Bestiality and some other links from JoyScape listing. I thank everybody for their past and future helpful input. __________________ <a href="http://www.joyscape.com/">JoyScape - The Adult Search Engine</a>

2003-11-04, 01:09 AM	#23
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	OK... it's a big ask, but I'd really like to submit my sites to joyscape without having recip... just like a real search engine OK, I know it's probably not going to happen, but I thought I'd just say it. Also, is a "free image and movie archive" like a free site? I find that fairly confusing. It seems that there is no definition between tgp-type pages and real free sites with a warning page. I'm not going to ask for a "for women" free category coz it just gets me into trouble LOL __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2003-11-04, 01:38 AM	#24
guitar riff Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In a van Down by the river. Posts: 216	Beastiality isnt that where the men are men and the sheep are Scared :-) Or is it when ya drive by a field of sheep and they all Say daaaaaaddddyyyyy Had to throw some humor in the mix \|rasta\|

2003-11-04, 02:48 AM	#25
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Kim, IMHO, you shouldn't of had to put it to a vote. Bestiality and other wonderful subjects that were listed just ain't good business. The processors of note won't process for it, I don't Visa wants to process for it, so there is no way to turn it into money. Good luck with it. I hope you don't have to put anything else to a vote that should be that obvious! :-) Alex