how to get a good start with a new program

hollywood376 · 2006-06-23, 09:25 PM

I have a new affiliate program, and a couple of new websites to go along with it. Does anyone have any advice on where to find and recruit an army of webmaster to promote the product?

Once I find webmasters, how do i convine them to try my program? I dont have a lot of stats to give them, as the sites are new and the program too, so I can only give sign up info for the past few days.

I want to make sure that all the time and effort that went into creating the program is put to good use!

hollywood376 · 2006-06-23, 09:37 PM

I have a new affiliate program, and a couple of new websites to go along with it. Does anyone have any advice on where to find and recruit an army of webmaster to promote the product?

Once I find webmasters, how do i convine them to try my program? I dont have a lot of stats to give them, as the sites are new and the program too, so I can only give sign up info for the past few days.

I want to make sure that all the time and effort that went into creating the program is put to good use!

(somehow i posted this under another forum area, sorry for the duplicate post)

adam_wildcash · 2006-06-23, 11:31 PM

Can you put up a link to your sites and affiliate programs?

Most affiliate will take a look at your site and know if there traffic will convert or not.

Useless · 2006-06-23, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam_wildcash

Can you put up a link to your sites and affiliate programs?

If he wants to get this tossed into the spam forum again, he can.

Tvduijn · 2006-06-24, 05:56 AM

Giving away good promo tools like (FHG, good selection of banners, free content) would help but the most important is that your sites look good and convert well.

Giving away a nice webmaster referral bonus might help aswell, since it encourages to spread your program.

Greenguy · 2006-06-24, 08:03 AM

Maybe I did jump the gun on moving this to the spam forum, but it does read as if it could very well be a clever spam post

1st you have to find people to beta test it - do this in private by asking your friends to try the program out. Send some of your own traffic at it as well.

Then if the numbers are decent, look into buying ads on webmaster board & magazines, send out press releases, etc.

nickcage49 · 2006-06-27, 05:59 PM

Clever marketing Greenguy!

hollywood376 · 2006-06-27, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

Maybe I did jump the gun on moving this to the spam forum, but it does read as if it could very well be a clever spam post

1st you have to find people to beta test it - do this in private by asking your friends to try the program out. Send some of your own traffic at it as well.

Then if the numbers are decent, look into buying ads on webmaster board & magazines, send out press releases, etc.

I can see how this might seem like spam, however I really am looking for an answer! ( I only posted the link so that people could see what I have to work with. ) As for numbers being decent, I wouldn't know what decent numbers are! What numbers should I be looking for? and what is that number based on, first page uniques/sales, join page/sales, raw etc.?

Unfortunately, I don't have any friends who are in this business. I am relatively new and don't have many connections. I also don't have "my own traffic". Other than to submit to tgp's, etc. I don't have any traffic that I move. If there is anyone here who thinks that they may want to try it out, let me know and I'll give you the address.

GenXer · 2006-06-28, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywood376

I can see how this might seem like spam, however I really am looking for an answer! ( I only posted the link so that people could see what I have to work with. ) As for numbers being decent, I wouldn't know what decent numbers are! What numbers should I be looking for? and what is that number based on, first page uniques/sales, join page/sales, raw etc.?

Unfortunately, I don't have any friends who are in this business. I am relatively new and don't have many connections. I also don't have "my own traffic". Other than to submit to tgp's, etc. I don't have any traffic that I move. If there is anyone here who thinks that they may want to try it out, let me know and I'll give you the address.

You REALLY need to post the links to the paysites that webmasters and others will be promoting. I went to your affiliate program, and it all sounds okay, but no one is going to sign up unless we see what we are going to be promoting. There is details about the revshare and the nats and etc, but not much info about the websites. Also, do you plan on giving webmaster access to the members area to get fresh content. etc etc things like that :-). You should think about getting some affiliate support and ....here's a good one

You should buy an advertising spot here on Greenguy and Jim .

hollywood376 · 2006-06-28, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenXer

You REALLY need to post the links to the paysites that webmasters and others will be promoting. I went to your affiliate program, and it all sounds okay, but no one is going to sign up unless we see what we are going to be promoting. There is details about the revshare and the nats and etc, but not much info about the websites. Also, do you plan on giving webmaster access to the members area to get fresh content. etc etc things like that :-). You should think about getting some affiliate support and ....here's a good one

You should buy an advertising spot here on Greenguy and Jim .

Hmmm. I don't understand ... If you went to my program, the first link on every page is a button that says "site portfolio" which has links to the websites. As for access to members area for content, the answer is yes (with some limitations).

ecchi · 2006-06-28, 12:43 PM

OK, this is my 2c, but be aware it is how I look at new sponsors, other people may disagree. Also please don't take offence at anything I say. I am talking about how I view a site when I come across it as a possible new sponsor, so please don't assume I am accusing you of anything here.

1. You promote 2 solo girl sites. Why are these any better that all the others? If you want me to promote your site you will have to convince me that your sign up ratio or member retention is better than others. And don't just quote figures, give reasons (eg. our members stay longer because after 6 months they get sent a genuine signed photo).

2. Up to 65% payout, plus 5% for referral of webmaster. Considering you are new I guess you are paying about 15% CC processing, that leaves you 15% of the sale price to cover bandwidth, new content, etc. No offence intended to you, but when I come across sites like that I automatically assume they will either be out of business within a few months or will have to start shaving.

3. Free hosted galleries are good, but I need to have a page on your site where I can collect the link codes and decide what I want to use. Having them submitted is no good because: (A) Most of the sites I use FHGs on are 'fake' TGPs with sponsors galleries and link exchanges, no submit form. (B) Sites I have with submit forms automatically check for recips. As your galleries will obviously not meet this requirement, my script will automatically trash them. (C) It looks really amateurish doing it this way. If you got time to submit to all your affiliates sites then you don't got many customers, and if you don't got many customers I would assume you won't convert well for me.

4. Really need to know more about your content. How much do you have, how often is it updated, etc. I believe this is even more important to people who specialise in solo girl sites than it is to me. I was talking to someone (I think on this board, but it might have been elsewhere) who said that he needed plenty of fresh new content all the time to push the girls on TGP posts.

orange · 2006-07-11, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

I wonder if orange
has checked out our new and improved
Adult Webmaster Sponsor & Affiliate Programs

Of course I did!

ronnie · 2006-06-28, 07:03 PM

Before you ever try to recruit webmasters to try your program, your site(s) should be throughly tested, most importantly as mentioned, how well they convert and retain. Once tested and acceptable numbers reached, only then should you be gathering other webmasters to send their traffic. I dont mean to be rude, but it's like asking webmasters to take a chance. We all work very hard for our traffic and try not to waste it, when possible.

The sites should be tested with many different types of traffic and fine tuned, guarenteed they will need it, "before" you ask others to send their traffic. If your new to the business, how can you expect webmasters to believe your sites will sell and keep members when you dont have the experience to know what works?

Again, I dont mean to be rude, but your asking alot. To have webmasters send valuable traffic to test your sites and help improve them, with a good chance of the webmasters not making any money, that should be up to you to do, again, "before" asking webmaster to take a chance.

If you really want to be dedicated to making it the best it can be, you need to be buying different types of traffic and getting the sites up to par on your dime...

ronnie

eman · 2006-06-29, 02:31 AM

You need to sort out the confused pricing information on the join pages/join forms.

Worfik · 2006-07-04, 06:59 AM

Just quick tip: Submit your paysites to adult reviews sites (Rabbit Reviews, The Best Porn etc.). When I'm searching a paysites from specific niche to promote, I go there first.

Phoenix · 2006-07-11, 01:21 PM

hard to get webmasters these days...so much competition out there.
conentrate on direct relaitonships...go after review sites...and webmasters who might require one small thing extra from you but will send immediate sales....like link list guys....maybe they need some content or some fee hosted sites and you are off...i t hink you will be building y our base webmasters for sometime

good luck

JohnWebcams.com · 2006-07-21, 08:52 PM

Here is how you have a successful webmaster program:

1. Generate enough of your own traffic to pay all of your bills and make a profit
2. Use the profit to advertise on a few webmaster boards. The main point of advertising isn't for the banners, it's so you can promote your product in a tasteful way without having to get in trouble for spam. Some boards are more tolerant of spam than others.
3. Get webmasters to sign up through this promotion
4. Spend all day emailing and talking on ICQ with as many affiliates as you can to get them to try you out. This means contacting 50+ people per day, asking them what they need, providing special things to them, etc.

I think if you contact 50 people per day you can expect to grow by 5-10 joins per day per month with persistence.

This is assuming you have good sites, a full time designer & programmer to provide people with custom promotional items, and are persistent with your sales.

first-nude · 2006-07-24, 05:58 AM

free sites for linklists is a good idea, however the main idea is retention and conversions obviously. so, what is the best way to do it? offer two sites for one price, get gorgeous girls, try to get the girls to be as kinky as possible, however if it is a beauty nudes site dont show this in the tour too much or it turns beauty guys off, instead keep it in members area to make them retain. offer a vip zone for members of three months or more where they get access to the high definition video area or something like this, sex scandal celeb tape area or whatever sells. i have had people sign up just because i offered a free kama sutra ebook as a bonus-they figured all the sites the same but here i get a book on cool sex! be different. use text links on your landing page to make it easier for the surfer to get what he wants fast. try to install a private messaging service that surfers can send messages to the models. get a livewebcam and it will greatly increase retention. all the best. chris

www.first-nude.com where love pays

2006-06-23, 09:25 PM	#1
hollywood376 Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	how to get a good start with a new program I have a new affiliate program, and a couple of new websites to go along with it. Does anyone have any advice on where to find and recruit an army of webmaster to promote the product? Once I find webmasters, how do i convine them to try my program? I dont have a lot of stats to give them, as the sites are new and the program too, so I can only give sign up info for the past few days. I want to make sure that all the time and effort that went into creating the program is put to good use!

2006-06-23, 09:37 PM	#2
hollywood376 Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	how to get a good start with a new program I have a new affiliate program, and a couple of new websites to go along with it. Does anyone have any advice on where to find and recruit an army of webmaster to promote the product? Once I find webmasters, how do i convine them to try my program? I dont have a lot of stats to give them, as the sites are new and the program too, so I can only give sign up info for the past few days. I want to make sure that all the time and effort that went into creating the program is put to good use! (somehow i posted this under another forum area, sorry for the duplicate post)

2006-06-24, 05:56 AM	#5
Tvduijn You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try' Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160	Giving away good promo tools like (FHG, good selection of banners, free content) would help but the most important is that your sites look good and convert well. Giving away a nice webmaster referral bonus might help aswell, since it encourages to spread your program. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2006-06-24, 08:03 AM	#6
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Maybe I did jump the gun on moving this to the spam forum, but it does read as if it could very well be a clever spam post 1st you have to find people to beta test it - do this in private by asking your friends to try the program out. Send some of your own traffic at it as well. Then if the numbers are decent, look into buying ads on webmaster board & magazines, send out press releases, etc. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-06-27, 05:59 PM	#7
nickcage49 Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5	Clever! Clever marketing Greenguy! __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2006-06-23, 11:31 PM	#3
adam_wildcash Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	Can you put up a link to your sites and affiliate programs? Most affiliate will take a look at your site and know if there traffic will convert or not.

2006-06-28, 12:43 PM	#11
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	OK, this is my 2c, but be aware it is how I look at new sponsors, other people may disagree. Also please don't take offence at anything I say. I am talking about how I view a site when I come across it as a possible new sponsor, so please don't assume I am accusing you of anything here. 1. You promote 2 solo girl sites. Why are these any better that all the others? If you want me to promote your site you will have to convince me that your sign up ratio or member retention is better than others. And don't just quote figures, give reasons (eg. our members stay longer because after 6 months they get sent a genuine signed photo). 2. Up to 65% payout, plus 5% for referral of webmaster. Considering you are new I guess you are paying about 15% CC processing, that leaves you 15% of the sale price to cover bandwidth, new content, etc. No offence intended to you, but when I come across sites like that I automatically assume they will either be out of business within a few months or will have to start shaving. 3. Free hosted galleries are good, but I need to have a page on your site where I can collect the link codes and decide what I want to use. Having them submitted is no good because: (A) Most of the sites I use FHGs on are 'fake' TGPs with sponsors galleries and link exchanges, no submit form. (B) Sites I have with submit forms automatically check for recips. As your galleries will obviously not meet this requirement, my script will automatically trash them. (C) It looks really amateurish doing it this way. If you got time to submit to all your affiliates sites then you don't got many customers, and if you don't got many customers I would assume you won't convert well for me. 4. Really need to know more about your content. How much do you have, how often is it updated, etc. I believe this is even more important to people who specialise in solo girl sites than it is to me. I was talking to someone (I think on this board, but it might have been elsewhere) who said that he needed plenty of fresh new content all the time to push the girls on TGP posts.

2006-06-28, 07:03 PM	#13
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Before you ever try to recruit webmasters to try your program, your site(s) should be throughly tested, most importantly as mentioned, how well they convert and retain. Once tested and acceptable numbers reached, only then should you be gathering other webmasters to send their traffic. I dont mean to be rude, but it's like asking webmasters to take a chance. We all work very hard for our traffic and try not to waste it, when possible. The sites should be tested with many different types of traffic and fine tuned, guarenteed they will need it, "before" you ask others to send their traffic. If your new to the business, how can you expect webmasters to believe your sites will sell and keep members when you dont have the experience to know what works? Again, I dont mean to be rude, but your asking alot. To have webmasters send valuable traffic to test your sites and help improve them, with a good chance of the webmasters not making any money, that should be up to you to do, again, "before" asking webmaster to take a chance. If you really want to be dedicated to making it the best it can be, you need to be buying different types of traffic and getting the sites up to par on your dime... ronnie Last edited by ronnie; 2006-06-28 at 07:08 PM..

2006-06-29, 02:31 AM	#14
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2006-07-04, 06:59 AM	#15
Worfik Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4	Just quick tip: Submit your paysites to adult reviews sites (Rabbit Reviews, The Best Porn etc.). When I'm searching a paysites from specific niche to promote, I go there first.

2006-07-11, 01:21 PM	#16
Phoenix Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 126	hard to get webmasters these days...so much competition out there. conentrate on direct relaitonships...go after review sites...and webmasters who might require one small thing extra from you but will send immediate sales....like link list guys....maybe they need some content or some fee hosted sites and you are off...i t hink you will be building y our base webmasters for sometime good luck __________________ ICQ#163879276 www.liondollars.com

2006-07-21, 08:52 PM	#17
JohnWebcams.com A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 50	Here is how you have a successful webmaster program: 1. Generate enough of your own traffic to pay all of your bills and make a profit 2. Use the profit to advertise on a few webmaster boards. The main point of advertising isn't for the banners, it's so you can promote your product in a tasteful way without having to get in trouble for spam. Some boards are more tolerant of spam than others. 3. Get webmasters to sign up through this promotion 4. Spend all day emailing and talking on ICQ with as many affiliates as you can to get them to try you out. This means contacting 50+ people per day, asking them what they need, providing special things to them, etc. I think if you contact 50 people per day you can expect to grow by 5-10 joins per day per month with persistence. This is assuming you have good sites, a full time designer & programmer to provide people with custom promotional items, and are persistent with your sales. __________________ $42+ PPS / ICQ: 476-111

2006-07-24, 05:58 AM	#18
first-nude Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8	interactivity helps retention free sites for linklists is a good idea, however the main idea is retention and conversions obviously. so, what is the best way to do it? offer two sites for one price, get gorgeous girls, try to get the girls to be as kinky as possible, however if it is a beauty nudes site dont show this in the tour too much or it turns beauty guys off, instead keep it in members area to make them retain. offer a vip zone for members of three months or more where they get access to the high definition video area or something like this, sex scandal celeb tape area or whatever sells. i have had people sign up just because i offered a free kama sutra ebook as a bonus-they figured all the sites the same but here i get a book on cool sex! be different. use text links on your landing page to make it easier for the surfer to get what he wants fast. try to install a private messaging service that surfers can send messages to the models. get a livewebcam and it will greatly increase retention. all the best. chris www.first-nude.com where love pays