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Old 2007-02-21, 08:02 PM   #1
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Hi everyone,

I'm a webcam girl, been camming since a few years, but kinda got fed up with all the major chatsites, so decided to go independant.

The idea with the site is to use the free part to promote my cam activities and memberspage.

The memberspage will have vids, pics, msg board, webcasts, ... and will be a more personnal look into my life with a lot of interaction between me and the members. Something like a visual diary of my life, all aspects included.

Got my site finally finished today, and although i've seen a lot of better sites here on the board, I'm still very proud of it. (Didnt actually know a word of html or css when i started this project :-))

But since i'm still very new to all of this, I needed some help and advice from you all ;-)

Question 1 : Whats the impression when you see the site?

Question 2 : Got some ideas how to improve the free part?

Question 3 : How can i get quality traffic to the site?

Question 4 : Any other advice??

And guys i'm newbie and a girl, so keep it a bit simple for me :-)))

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Old 2007-02-22, 07:53 AM   #2
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Since I'm new to al this, kinda wondering if someone could explain 'niche' to me, think i kinda know what it means, but just wanne be sure :-)

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Since I'm new to al this, kinda wondering if someone could explain 'niche' to me, think i kinda know what it means, but just wanne be sure :-)

ty Anke
See definition d

Pronunciation: 'nich, ÷'nesh
Etymology: French, from Middle French, from nicher to nest, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin nidicare, from Latin nidus nest -- more at NEST
1 a : a recess in a wall especially for a statue b : something that resembles a niche
2 a : a place, employment, status, or activity for which a person or thing is best fitted b : a habitat supplying the factors necessary for the existence of an organism or species c : the ecological role of an organism in a community especially in regard to food consumption d : a specialized market
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See definition d

Pronunciation: 'nich, ÷'nesh
Etymology: French, from Middle French, from nicher to nest, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin nidicare, from Latin nidus nest -- more at NEST
1 a : a recess in a wall especially for a statue b : something that resembles a niche
2 a : a place, employment, status, or activity for which a person or thing is best fitted b : a habitat supplying the factors necessary for the existence of an organism or species c : the ecological role of an organism in a community especially in regard to food consumption d : a specialized market
thats what i wanted to know :-)
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q1: I got lost in a five column layout as soon as I've entered your site. You might want to make it easier for surfer to start surfing your site. You have approx 10 seconds to keep the surfer on your site before he/she clicks that X button. Also that purple on white Arial font is a bit unreadable for us wearing glasses. (I'm just pointing out bad things, other stuff is ok)

q2: A few preview videos are ok

q3: That's the hardest part. I'm sure that other webcam program owners will help you with this one.

q4: Other advice: in your own words: "keep it a bit simple for me"
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Old 2007-02-22, 10:18 AM   #6
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q1: I got lost in a five column layout as soon as I've entered your site. You might want to make it easier for surfer to start surfing your site. You have approx 10 seconds to keep the surfer on your site before he/she clicks that X button. Also that purple on white Arial font is a bit unreadable for us wearing glasses. (I'm just pointing out bad things, other stuff is ok)

q2: A few preview videos are ok

q3: That's the hardest part. I'm sure that other webcam program owners will help you with this one.

q4: Other advice: in your own words: "keep it a bit simple for me"
q1:
_ Without having to change the entire design, what would be the best option to change the fonts? what color would you suggest, use a darker tone of purple, or change the color? Its designed is css so wont be that hard to change it :-)

To make it more simple for the client, what should i keep and what should i lose? Make the center of the page completly with pics, and put the text on the left and right colomn? Need to stay with the left and right column thing at the moment, will prob start redesigning once i get my content and the site is launched.

Or maybe design a two three page site, with pics on and without the text, and keep the text for my memberspage? or keep the page i have now, for my camclients who arent a member of my site.

q2:
the preview vids on my site now, are they okay or not? the shower vid and the last one are old ones. The last one will be changed with a more recent version and the shower vid will be made a bit longer

q3:do you mean owners of camsites or other independant camgirls?

q4:will keep that in mind

btw thx for your swift reply :-)

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Old 2007-02-22, 10:25 AM   #7
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For doing the site yourself, it looks good. As johnny mentioned the main page is a bit too much, it is a little too much info in so many different columns. And ya, the text needs to pop more, kinda blends in.

One big thing, you might want to make your exit link on the index page go somewhere esle. Some companies do get upset to have porn sites linking to them, I've found out first hand.

Would'nt hurt to put more teaser text on all pages. Dont think you can ever have enough, talking and teasing the surfer.

To me niche is the many different parts or tastes of surfers. Like some get into foot fetish, wet or messy, lingerie, ect.

As for traffic, could get listed with LL's, link trades with simlar sites, toplists, ect. You probably realize one of the benifits of working for a cam site, they do the traffic. It's hard work and takes time.
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As for traffic, could get listed with LL's, link trades with simlar sites, toplists, ect. You probably realize one of the benifits of working for a cam site, they do the traffic. It's hard work and takes time.
camsites bring less targetted traffic then my site does now :-) and i'm only at 170-200 visitors a day :-)

They bring indeed the traffic, but 95% of the people they bring dont actually buy shows :-) and the 5% that does buy a show think they can permit themselves anything. So there's no fun in working for those sites :-)

Let me be one the girls that really enjoy being on cam. But being on cam and on a camsite, just sucks, and if I do sexual things i prefer to really enjoy them instead of faking them. It needs to be fun, not work, otherwise you will be burned out in no time.

And I'm willing to invest my time in the site, and with the help from the pro's and amateurs in the business, i think i can pull this off :-)

Seem to meet more nice people on the net lately than in real life :-)

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Old 2007-02-22, 02:13 PM   #9
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Splash/warning page looks sharp and clean.

Main page needs to grab the surfer immediately.

Seeing prices right away could drive off a lot before they even check out the site. I wouldn't put them on the main page.

Have some welcome text at the top with a row of thumbnail shots of your best stuff to grab the surfer's attention.

What's the actual name of the site? I couldnt tell. I do see a banner for www.teencamgirl.be but that doesn't grab me much. I don't even know what the .be extension is.

Try to stand out more from all the other camgirls. Do you have something you particularly like? Lingerie, boots, a certain toy, whatever. Concentrate on that and build yourself a catchphrase. You want something specific and get in the search engines for it. Some type of roleplaying might be good here.

Title has grammatical errors.
Meta description is just a list of keywords.
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Splash/warning page looks sharp and clean.

Main page needs to grab the surfer immediately.

Seeing prices right away could drive off a lot before they even check out the site. I wouldn't put them on the main page.

Have some welcome text at the top with a row of thumbnail shots of your best stuff to grab the surfer's attention.

What's the actual name of the site? I couldnt tell. I do see a banner for www.teencamgirl.be but that doesn't grab me much. I don't even know what the .be extension is.

Try to stand out more from all the other camgirls. Do you have something you particularly like? Lingerie, boots, a certain toy, whatever. Concentrate on that and build yourself a catchphrase. You want something specific and get in the search engines for it. Some type of roleplaying might be good here.

Title has grammatical errors.
Meta description is just a list of keywords.
will prob remove the price tonight, and work a bit on yr ideas :-) you gave me some good tips :-)

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I don't even know what the .be extension is.
The .be extension lies to the south of the .nl extension, north of the .fr extension, and west of the .de extension and is fully encompassed by the .eu extension. The fine folk of the .be extension have three official languages, great beer, and some very fine women.
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The .be extension lies to the south of the .nl extension, north of the .fr extension, and west of the .de extension and is fully encompassed by the .eu extension. The fine folk of the .be extension have three official languages, great beer, and some very fine women.
Lets do some more promotion :-)

I live in Antwerp, Belgium:
Belgium has 4 neighbouring countries: France (to the south), Germany to the East, Luxembourg (packed between france, germany, belgium) and holland to the north.

Antwerp is the second largest port of europe, and one on the busiest in the world.

Antwerp has the second biggest chemical industry aster austin texas.

Antwerp is the home town of the most famous diamonds.

Antwerp is one of the leading cities in european fashion after Londen, Parin en Milan. (Bikkenbergs, Van Nooten, De Meulemeester, Van Beirendockx, ...)

Antwerp is the hometown of PP Rubens, A Van Dijck, Van Eyck (all painters), Plantin&Moretus (perfectionized printing), Mercator(invented the world map like we know it), and many more

The golden age of antwerp was around 1300-1400 (after the invasion ot he spanjards, al the protestant people fled to a small town, which wouldl develop in to amsterdam in holland, which led to the golden age of amsterdam). One of the families that fled antwerp was Stuyvesandt, who would later found the city of NY (new amsterdam).

Other things to now about belgium :

The UN, Nato, European Parlement are all based in our capital Brussels.

WO 1 was fought in belgium (flanders fields in West-Flanders)

Napoleon was beaten in belgium (Waterloo)

Ceasar named the belgica the bravest of all germanians

We invented the 'french' fries. (Seems they were act invented by a spanish nun, but the way they are eaten now, is the belgian way)

Our chocolate is world famous.

Our beers are the best beers in the world, the largest brewery in the world Interbrew in belgian.

Our trappist beers, West Vleeteren, Chimay, Ciney, Westmalle are unique beers and belong to the better you will ever find.

...

if you wanne know something more about this little country with only 10.000.000 people, just aks :-)))

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camsites bring less targetted traffic then my site does now :-) and i'm only at 170-200 visitors a day :-)

They bring indeed the traffic, but 95% of the people they bring dont actually buy shows :-) and the 5% that does buy a show think they can permit themselves anything. So there's no fun in working for those sites :-)

Let me be one the girls that really enjoy being on cam. But being on cam and on a camsite, just sucks, and if I do sexual things i prefer to really enjoy them instead of faking them. It needs to be fun, not work, otherwise you will be burned out in no time.

And I'm willing to invest my time in the site, and with the help from the pro's and amateurs in the business, i think i can pull this off :-)

Seem to meet more nice people on the net lately than in real life :-)

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You have some points, just remember those people that want free shows will probably visit your site also.. Sure you realize that.

I don't think any one mentioned, you should start a free blog, unless you have one and I missed it. Could help the surfers get to know and trust you with their money. And you can tease them all over the place.

Now that I think about it, your going to charge per minute? I did'nt think CCbill processed per minute?
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ronnie - you just charge a package of say 30 minutes - shes just showing the breakdown per minute
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On your "Click here for other payment options" there's no warning that it takes you to your instant message program - if a customer does not have an "IM" client loaded, he/she will get an error.

ymsgr:sendIM?divinegoddess20&m=Hi_found_you_on_www.teencamgirl.be

Why are you hosting your additional pics on a free(?) server and not on your own domain? It's OK to leave these out there to drive traffic to your site but why force me to leave your site (and possibly browse other hotties) when I'm already on your site? Remember, you want all my attention on you, my credit card in one hand and my dick in the other.

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ronnie - you just charge a package of say 30 minutes - shes just showing the breakdown per minute
From what I've seen - 30 minutes ain't enough time.... OK - I'm a perv....
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You have some points, just remember those people that want free shows will probably visit your site also.. Sure you realize that.

I don't think any one mentioned, you should start a free blog, unless you have one and I missed it. Could help the surfers get to know and trust you with their money. And you can tease them all over the place.

Now that I think about it, your going to charge per minute? I did'nt think CCbill processed per minute?
The freechatters on my site open everytime like this, CAN I SEE A PREVIEW! :-) every single one of them :-) and the answer is very simple in most cases, NO. I dont do this everytime, if there's a connection with someone and we are allready chatting a bit and he seems intrested, ... then of course i would do it, but ask any of the independant girls, and they all will tell the same, if they want a preview they dont buy a show, so we dont give previews anymore. (heard all kind of excuses, wanne see how you look, wanne see yr cam quality, ...) But for those reasons they can easily check my site, see the previews and buy a show then. :-) But the experience in the last months learned me, that once they mention freeview, the are a waste of time. (In the beginning I went independant, I tried about everything// got at the moment an ignore list on yahoo with about 300 people in it (scammers, bullshitters, ...))

About the ccbill, I allready setup my ccbill, was quiet easy to get around the minutes thing. (was actually ccbill that offered the solution to me, really love there supportteam :-))

setup my ccbill so that a custommers buy X minutes in advance. (10/20/30/45 minutes) and if you combine any of these amounts you can practicly pay any amount necessary.

But now that you mention it, ... :-)
Use ccbill at the moment, and with a cut of 16%-84% (minus somekind of reserve) i keep about 80%.

Are there anyother good payment processors in general?
any good ones for debitcards? (got a question from a client about that yesterday)
any good ones if they dont wanne use cc?

kiss Anke

changed the homepage btw : this is how it looks now, can change of the comming hours of course (banner/colors/ ...) buy do you like this layout? www.teencamgirl.be/homenew.html
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changed the homepage btw : this is how it looks now, can change of the coming hours of course (banner/colors/ ...) buy do you like this layout? www.teencamgirl.be/homenew.html
I love purple and pink - you'll see me using it on our paysite and on many of the free sites I make. This said, your fonts colors are still to light for my old eyes - try something in the #A600DD (or darker) range for the purple and #E802FB for the pink. I have a dual monitor system and have the CRT calibrated for 7500K but the flat screen is set to 9500K and is not calibrated. This gives me a pretty standard range of the monitors out there so I can see what the page might look like for different users.

Also be sure to look it it in a higher screen rez - say 1200x1600 and see what you get... You close the <div id="container" align="center"> tag too soon. Try placing the </div> tag right before the </body> tag. This keeps the entire page at the same width.

Also be sure to preview it in FireFox - if you want the page to center you may need to make a few changes. For simplicity, I just place the entire page in a table

<body topmargin="0" bgcolor="#ffffff">
<table width="100%" align="center"><tr><td width="100%">
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<div id="container" align="center">
Page code here
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</td></tr></table>
</body>

There may be better ways to do this but it works for me.

Also be sure to assign values to your "alt" tags - pretty valuable when it comes to SEO.
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I think you should be very proud of a site like that from scratch. Sure, as has been mentioned, there are ways you could improve it - there always are - and your site will be an ongoing work and will change and improve with time.

Ronnie's point about your exit link is a good one. People will always click your exit link so you might as well make some money out of them! I use Warning Pages - http://www.warningpages.com/index.php

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I think you should be very proud of a site like that from scratch. Sure, as has been mentioned, there are ways you could improve it - there always are - and your site will be an ongoing work and will change and improve with time.

Ronnie's point about your exit link is a good one. People will always click your exit link so you might as well make some money out of them! I use Warning Pages - http://www.warningpages.com/index.php

Good luck!
exit link is adjusted, ty for the info :-)

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Ronnie's point about your exit link is a good one. People will always click your exit link so you might as well make some money out of them! I use Warning Pages - http://www.warningpages.com/index.php

Good luck!
Making money off it is one thing. I was really refering to mainstream sites getting more than fussy about linking to them. I've gotten C&D letters just for linking to a non-adult site, even got one for mentioning their name on a site. Course the linking was not intentional, there was an old porn site there before, and the name mention was some adult type news. It can happen..
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Q2 - do a demo, preview filmed on your cam about 30 secs long telling people what they will see. - if you are selling cams that really should be all you need.
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Make sure you own or have copyright release on the music you use? I’ve seen more than one small startup get slapped out of business (and worse) for copyright infringements. It's usually a simple matter to get music from a local startup band - most are hungry for the credits and fools when approached by a sexy woman.

b.t.w. Lived in the German Eifel for years (north/west of Pruem) - about 7km from the .be border. I miss Europe but I do manage to get back three to four times each year.
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Makes sense about selling blocks of time, did'nt think about it. Actually could work better for you.

If your thinking CCBill is getting alot, thats selling adult entertainment, sucks. Pretty much all processors get a big cut when it's x-rated, if they even will process it.

I kinda liked the way you had the site before, the columns, just too many columns at the time.
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will prob bring some of the columns back, for some of the pages, but will keep in mind to keep them a bit more clear :-).

btw thx all for the help :-)
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Hi everyone,

changed the site, hope you think its better this time :-)

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if you got any other comments please let me know :-)
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