Anyone got links of information for...

virux · 2003-10-23, 03:13 AM

the links to the new VISA Regulations....tips and tricks of how to be compliant if decided to start a paysite(s) to start an affiliate program..

and information that i can use and research on starting a affiliate program...

i have some information in my head and i want more to have more knowledge in learning how to run one with all information gathered in my head to be confident...

any information related with running a paysite/affiliate program like scripts to maintain a paysite, script to run a affiliate program (have one in mind already for that, but more would be great for me to compare)

Thanks a lot.

quote: "Got to start somewhere"

Nickname · 2003-10-23, 07:44 AM

How long have you been in the adult biz? how many free sites, avs sites, tgp gallerys have you made? I would not advice you to start out by doing paysites and affiliate programs before you have a good insight into the 3 others I stated above.

Cleo · 2003-10-23, 07:47 AM

Hope you have lots of traffic and real deep pockets.

virux · 2003-10-23, 07:58 AM

hmm... thanks for caring... but i actually just wanted info....not what telling me i need deep pockets, cause i know i need deep pockets for it.

Cleo · 2003-10-23, 08:05 AM

Not really something that I know about, but here is one,
http://tgp.x3scripts.com/partnerprogram.html?

virux · 2003-10-23, 11:54 AM

thanks

Chop Smith · 2003-10-23, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
Hope you have lots of traffic and real deep pockets.

Cleo, I sure would like to see this discussion expanded.

It seems that with the fallout of AVS' that small paysite might be the ticket. Assuming that someone has been building free sites, avs sites, tgp gallerys for a couple of years and have their feet fairly wet in the biz and they are not using free hosts and free content, it seems that their pocket would not have to be much deeper. I realize that their content cost would probably increase as they would need higher quality content. What other hidden cost do you see?

virux · 2003-10-23, 05:06 PM

now this is what i'd don't mind to hear from Chop Smith...

whenever i post for some information on something... people always go asking about the money problem....
or they go saying how many galleries you done.. how many freesites.. how many tgp you own.. how much traffic....

im basically just asking for information...but then i get questions back instead of receiving answers

Chop Smith · 2003-10-23, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by virux
im basically just asking for information...but then i get questions back instead of receiving answers

Virux, the most reliable people in the biz frequent this board. When they answer with questions, it is either to further the discussion or to make the person asking the question think about other possibilities. Be patient you will get your answer. It might not be what you want to hear, but it will be valuable info.

I am currently working on a rather large pay site and am very interested in the input from the seasoned professionals here. I might just end up using the AdultVerifier Ultra program and I think using them would be a gamble, but isn't everything?

Tommy · 2003-10-23, 05:57 PM

some of your expenses are going to be

content - pics, videos, plug ins
hosting - feeders etc and for the pay site
scripts - password managment, traffic and billing
traffic - sort of self explainitory
graphics - tours, banners fpa, members area stuff, gallerys

Cleo · 2003-10-23, 06:12 PM

I actually had a paysite at one time. It was back when it was hard not to make money and did pretty decent for me. Later on it stopped doing so well and I realized I was doing better in marketing rather then running a paysite.

AVS sites were nice for a sort time, but things are really fucked up there now.

I just always try to give a little warning when I see someone asking about opening up a paysite since I see so many newbies come into this business thinking that is the way to make lost of money.

I do think that there are already way too many paysites and unless you have something new it is doubtful you will do well.

Chop Smith · 2003-10-23, 06:32 PM

Thanks Cleo and Tommy.

Perhaps we can hear from some folks that just reasonly started their own paysite. Maybe one of the Extreme guys or one of the United Pimps will reply.

virux · 2003-10-23, 08:16 PM

yes indeed... there are too many paysites... there's too many tgp's...too many galleries... too many avs sites... to many free porn... but hey... since everything is too many... we all might as well just quit right?

Chop Smith · 2003-10-23, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by virux
... we all might as well just quit right?

Or you could invest the time and money and do it better than others before you. The adult biz is like most business. Those that prepare survive and of course it doesn't hurt to have those deep pockets to survive the lean times. It is a fact that most businesses do not turn a profit in there first two years.

Speaking of investing. You probably get most of your questions answered by spending a few hours in reading these articles:

http://www.cozyacademy.com/classroom.../lessons/1.asp
http://www.cozyacademy.com/classroom.../lessons/8.asp
http://www.cozyacademy.com/classroom...lessons/14.asp
http://www.cozyacademy.com/classroom...lessons/24.asp
http://www.cozyacademy.com/classroom...lessons/25.asp
http://www.cozyfrog.com/guides/start...artPaysite.asp
http://www.paysiteowners.com/article...ukdude_01.html
http://www.paysiteowners.com/article...ukdude_02.html
http://www.paysiteowners.com/article...ukdude_03.html
http://www.paysiteowners.com/article...ukdude_04.html
http://www.paysiteowners.com/articles/gen_drav_01a.html
http://www.paysiteowners.com/articles/gen_drav_01b.html
http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=335

I truly hope this helps you further your endeavors.

BTW if I decide to take the paysite plunge, you can be affiliate #78. #77 is set aside for Bell.

virux · 2003-10-23, 09:35 PM

what do you mean #78 #77?

thanks for the article links btw..

Chop Smith · 2003-10-23, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by virux
what do you mean #78 #77?

thanks for the article links btw..

If I decide to go with the paysite, I will affiliate with a group of webmasters that already have 76 affiliates. Sometime back Bell told me that if I ever did one that she would sign on as an affiliate. Therefore, you could be number 78.

Glad to furnish you with the links. I print links like those out every night and take them to bed with me. Too old to do anything in bed but read.

virux · 2003-10-24, 04:33 AM

haahah i get it

you won't be getting any affiliate links from me lol

im just researching =)

urb · 2003-10-24, 04:58 AM

I think a paysite is worth doing if you have a fresh angle or you have unique content.

Like everything in porn these days, it's easier to work with a niche. If you open a general paysite with no specific niche interest, you will have a much steeper hill to climb.

Niche is the key.

virux · 2003-10-24, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urb
I think a paysite is worth doing if you have a fresh angle or you have unique content.

Like everything in porn these days, it's easier to work with a niche. If you open a general paysite with no specific niche interest, you will have a much steeper hill to climb.

Niche is the key.

yes definitely.. Niche is definitely the key to the paysite game =)

2003-10-23, 03:13 AM	#1
virux I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 88	Anyone got links of information for... the links to the new VISA Regulations....tips and tricks of how to be compliant if decided to start a paysite(s) to start an affiliate program.. and information that i can use and research on starting a affiliate program... i have some information in my head and i want more to have more knowledge in learning how to run one with all information gathered in my head to be confident... any information related with running a paysite/affiliate program like scripts to maintain a paysite, script to run a affiliate program (have one in mind already for that, but more would be great for me to compare) Thanks a lot. quote: "Got to start somewhere"

2003-10-23, 07:44 AM	#2
Nickname Stupid risks make life worth living Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 385	How long have you been in the adult biz? how many free sites, avs sites, tgp gallerys have you made? I would not advice you to start out by doing paysites and affiliate programs before you have a good insight into the 3 others I stated above. __________________ bexhag @ gmail.com skype: daniel.berglund1

2003-10-23, 07:47 AM	#3
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Hope you have lots of traffic and real deep pockets. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-23, 08:05 AM	#5
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Not really something that I know about, but here is one, http://tgp.x3scripts.com/partnerprogram.html? __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-23, 06:12 PM	#11
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I actually had a paysite at one time. It was back when it was hard not to make money and did pretty decent for me. Later on it stopped doing so well and I realized I was doing better in marketing rather then running a paysite. AVS sites were nice for a sort time, but things are really fucked up there now. I just always try to give a little warning when I see someone asking about opening up a paysite since I see so many newbies come into this business thinking that is the way to make lost of money. I do think that there are already way too many paysites and unless you have something new it is doubtful you will do well. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-10-23, 07:58 AM	#4
virux I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 88	hmm... thanks for caring... but i actually just wanted info....not what telling me i need deep pockets, cause i know i need deep pockets for it.

2003-10-23, 11:54 AM	#6
virux I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 88	thanks

2003-10-23, 05:06 PM	#8
virux I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 88	now this is what i'd don't mind to hear from Chop Smith... whenever i post for some information on something... people always go asking about the money problem.... or they go saying how many galleries you done.. how many freesites.. how many tgp you own.. how much traffic.... im basically just asking for information...but then i get questions back instead of receiving answers

2003-10-23, 05:57 PM	#10
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	some of your expenses are going to be content - pics, videos, plug ins hosting - feeders etc and for the pay site scripts - password managment, traffic and billing traffic - sort of self explainitory graphics - tours, banners fpa, members area stuff, gallerys

2003-10-23, 06:32 PM	#12
Chop Smith Eighteen 'til I Die Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,168	Thanks Cleo and Tommy. Perhaps we can hear from some folks that just reasonly started their own paysite. Maybe one of the Extreme guys or one of the United Pimps will reply. __________________

2003-10-23, 08:16 PM	#13
virux I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 88	yes indeed... there are too many paysites... there's too many tgp's...too many galleries... too many avs sites... to many free porn... but hey... since everything is too many... we all might as well just quit right?

2003-10-23, 09:35 PM	#15
virux I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 88	what do you mean #78 #77? thanks for the article links btw..

2003-10-24, 04:33 AM	#17
virux I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 88	haahah i get it you won't be getting any affiliate links from me lol im just researching =)

2003-10-24, 04:58 AM	#18
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	I think a paysite is worth doing if you have a fresh angle or you have unique content. Like everything in porn these days, it's easier to work with a niche. If you open a general paysite with no specific niche interest, you will have a much steeper hill to climb. Niche is the key.