Allergic to smoke?

[juggernaut]

Why do people say they are allergic to smoke? My wife and I just had another couple over the house last night and I hate when people say that. I feel it insults my intelegence. There is and has not been any proof that people are allergic to smoke. You know why? Because doctors and scientist have no reason to study this. We already know smoking is bad for you. And the statement "I"M ALLERGIC" makes the person look like an ass. When you are allergic to something it has a negative effect on your body. IE my dad is allergic to peaches. When he touches one he breaks out in a rash. That's allergic. But just not liking the smell of cigarettes or whatever is fine. How about just telling the smoker. Please the smoke really bothers my eyes or the smoke really makes it hard for me to concentrate on what you are saying. Just don't say you are ALLERGIC cause there is no real facts for that statement. Every living thing has problems with smoke because its the opposite of air... Man I hope my friend never brings that fat, whinny bitch back to my house again. I should have known something was wrong when my extremely friendly dog took a whiff and would not let her pet him. Jugg

[Cleo]

Cigarette smoke triggers really bad migraines in me and causes my sinus to become all congested. In Vegas I was unable to get away from the smoke and ended up very sick puking my brains out with one of the worst headaches that I have ever had.

No other smoke causes this reaction with me, not sure what it is with cigarette smoke.

[eman]

"I feel it insults my intelegence."

Yeah, right! That must be a fucking downer!

[pornrex]

According to Merriam-Webster, the word allergy is defined as follows:

1 : altered bodily reactivity (as hypersensitivity) to an antigen in response to a first exposure <a bee venom allergy so severe that a second sting may be fatal>
2 : exaggerated or pathological reaction (as by sneezing, respiratory embarrassment, itching, or skin rashes) to substances, situations, or physical states that are without comparable effect on the average individual
3 : medical practice concerned with allergies
4 : a feeling of antipathy or repugnance

Maybe that "that fat, whinny bitch" as you put it, really IS sensitive to smoke. Next time she's over, make her understand that its YOUR home she is visiting or have her sit outside in the garage and leave the car on. If that seems a little harsh, try milk of magnesia in her food.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by eman

"I feel it insults my intelegence."
Yeah, right! That must be a fucking downer!

It's even funnier because intelligence is misspelled. That's -5 points for that alone.

Originally Posted by pornrex the stalker

2 : exaggerated or pathological reaction (as by sneezing, respiratory embarrassment, itching, or skin rashes) to substances, situations, or physical states that are without comparable effect on the average individual

Not to mention watering of the eyes.

People do have allergic reactions to cigarette smoke due to it's chemical compostion. You don't have to die instantly or break out in hives to be allergic to something. So, if someone says that they are allergic to the shit you spew out of your rotting corpse, they aren't lying.

[pornrex]

stalker eh? that's gonna cost ya....

[Useless]

Originally Posted by pornrex

stalker eh? that's gonna cost ya....

Oh, I know.

I've been starving my dogs so that they'll be extra hungry when you build up the nerve to step out of that car parked out front.

[pornrex]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior, the target

Oh, I know.
I've been starving my dogs so that they'll be extra hungry when you build up the nerve to step out of that car parked out front.

Starve them all you want, buddy. I'm in an undisclosed location, the car is just a decoy.
And for good measure, I'm hanging out with my good friend HS Precision Pro Series 2000 HTR, custom fitted with a Schmidt & Bender P/M 42 mm tactical scope.

[juggernaut]

Ah Im just tired of this 2nd hand smoke BS. No proof anyone has ever died from it. People in this country (US) have to much time on their hands worrying about what others are doing. If she did not like my smoking in my house she should have left and not stayed for 3 hours. She made me feel captive in my own home. Shit I sat by the wide open window for her. But still every time I sparked one up (twice mind you) she ran in the kitchen (for which there are no doors or anything its an open layout house) and sat there looking at her BF like (How dare you bring me here). I love the fire this is bringing to the smoking issue. Heck people have been lighting up for years in Europe. This is the same arguement about POT. How it's so bad for you. Well people have been smoking it in Amsterdam for years and they are still living. I never seen anyone drop dead from 2nd hand smoke and I don't think anyone ever will. Hell I know more people who have gotten cancer when they quit and got concerned about their health. Oh an sorry I'm not a spelling ace. As far as the inteligence coment, well my mis-spelling only proves along with my smoking that I don't have much. LOL. I know I can never win this arguement and I'm not trying to. Point here is, if you enter someones home and they do something you don't like, then why stay for hours?

[Cleo]

I rarely visit my friends that smoke in their homes since even the stench that gets in everything just is repulsive. If they do light one up then I try to leave the room since even a whiff of it causes a reaction with me.

My house is a non smoking house but I do have a screened in patio area where my friends can smoke. I personally can't sit out there while they are doing their thing or I risk getting ill.

Pot smoke does not cause these problems with me even if I'm not partaking at the time. I don't smoke pot around friends that have a problem with it. Many of my friends are drug tested for work and even being in the same room as someone smoking pot can cause them to test positive.

Both my parents died from the effects of smoking even thou they stopped about twenty years previously. Growing up I suffered with incapacitating migraines that went away when I left home but it wasn't until some years later that I made the connection.

So it isn't that I'm afraid of dying from second hand smoke it is mostly I just don't want to end up sick for a day or two due to it.

Not sure if it is the nicotine or something else in cigarette smoke that I'm allergic to but it is something in them.

I actually don't know too many people that still smoke.

[Useless]

juggernaut, what you state as fact is complete and utter horseshit. There is plenty of medical evidence that nonsmokers have died of cancer(s) caused from second hand smoke. It also causes low birth weight, asthma and a multitude of inner hear disorders in children. It's science. Your addiction is causing you to lose sight of the truth. Get help.

Marijuana on the other hand, if left in its natural state (nothing added) is typically quite safe. Inhaling any smoke, whether it be pot or a bon fire, is not healthy. But the smoke produced by pot isn't any more harmful than burning wood. It just stinks really bad. I'm one of those few strange individuals who has never even tried pot, but I could care less if others do and I think it would be beneficial, from a law enforcement standpoint, for it to be legalized. I know it sure would make my brother happy.

[pornrex]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I'm one of those few strange individuals who has never even tried pot

That's what Clinton said too and we all know how that worked out.

[juggernaut]

Fact is warrior there is not. Or at least the news show I saw a couple of weeks ago stated there has never been documented proof that 2nd hand smoke ever lead to a persons death. The docters they had on the show stated that the amount of 2nd hand smoke someone would have to take in in order to die. Can never be calculated. They would have to have someone sit in a room with a smoke all the time to document that. If it were true you would see more Non-smoking bar tenders dieing from 2nd hand smoke.
I agree with you that natural is better. In fact natural everything is better. But how can it be good from a law enforcement standpoint? You never hear of someone on Pot doing anything. They are to tired to move most of the time. What about the health risks that people have no studied when it comes to pot? Lets see, laying around after being high, not motivated to do anything but eat. Your weight goes up from eating and just sitting around which in turn causes you to have heart problems. But no one seems to be studying that. The smoke from pot isn't more harmful then burning wood? I don't know about you but when I have sat around a camp fire I moved when the smoke blew in my face. I was never thinking, this is harmless to me.
Like I said before, I know I can't win this arguement but it's nice to throw fuel on this fire and see everyones passionate hated about smokers. But until it becomes illegal I'll be puff, puff, puffing away and either I'll get cancer or I won't. It's like playing with a loaded gun, you just don't know if it will go off but it sure is exciting. LOL . Oh by the way I'm sure all my mis-spelling is the result of my 2 joints a day habit back in the day..

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Lets see, laying around after being high, not motivated to do anything but eat. Your weight goes up from eating and just sitting around which in turn causes you to have heart problems.

Excuse me???

I workout every other day at the gym and I'm a workaholic. I also play tennis, bike ride, and I'm forever changing something on my house.

I'm also a vegetarian and don't eat any junk food.

Oh yeah, I also smoke pot sometimes, often before working out at the gym.

[juggernaut]

You are the rare person who smokes pot and does things with their lives. Most people who smoke it dont. I know from personnal experience. When I was a heavy smoker all I wanted to do along with everyone else I knew (which was most of the planet) just like pot for its relaxing effects. If people smoke it sometimes to relax them, thats fine, but the ones who smoke it everyday don't seem to ever do much.

[juggernaut]

Maybe I should go put my motorcycle helmet on and put my mouth guard in. I'm taking hits left and right here and my mail wont stop beeping. I can't believe I'm getting hate e-mail on this subject too now. lol.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by juggernaut

You are the rare person who smokes pot and does things with their lives.

I've just learned to enjoy things in moderation.

Food, alcohol, weed, whatever, all can be abused or just enjoyed.

If something becomes a problem then I stay away from it. Food is a real challenge. You can't stay away from food and I love to eat.

[Chop Smith]

I am allergic to smoke also. It only bothers me after 3 to 4 pack a day. If you come to my house don't bitch about my smoke. If you invite me to your home, I promise I won't smoke and will not complain about you not smoking. When I start banging my head against the wall, I will leave.

[juggernaut]

You know about this topic. I was always under the impression that only a doctor could tell someone if they were allergic to something after a number of tests. But hey I have been proven wrong on this topic so I'm sure I'm wrong on this also. I don't like coconut, when I eat it my tounge feels like its going to fall into my stomach. I guess I'm allergic to it. Ok next topic for tomorrow beating will be "Animal abuse! Why do dogs and cats have more shelters then humans? Are they more important then the average battered house wife?"

[Wenchy]

I have to take Jugg's side on this one. IMHO nothing is more rude that throwing a bunch of random bullshit at someone about what they do in their own home. If you don't like it, leave... pretty cut and dried.

I'm a smoker of many years and while I won't sit on my sofa and blow smoke right in a nonsmoking visitor's face, I expect them to extend me the same courtesy I would extend them if the roles were reversed. The only person in my family who has a "smoking house" is my dad... at everyone else's house I will go outside if I feel the need to light up. I also do a lot of wall washing and carpet cleaning so my house doesn't smell like a dirty ashtray... for ME, not for them.

It's ironic that so many people complain about smoking, but it's harder than hell to get a law passed to ban it. A few weeks ago, the Colorado state legislators decided they were going to pass a bill banning all public smoking in restaurants and bars. I just heard on the news last night that they're losing their asses on the deal and there's no way it will pass... even the restaurant association has pulled it's support after deciding it would probably do more harm than good to the owners/operators. The moral of this story? Smokers' money is just as green as nonsmokers' money and they don't want to lose a single cent of it.

Bottom line is, whether anyone likes it or not, smoking cigs is still legal in this country. You choose not to smoke, I choose to smoke... it doesn't make either of us wrong, just different. |cool|

[pornrex]

Originally Posted by Chop Smith

I am allergic to smoke also. It only bothers me after 3 to 4 pack a day. If you come to my house don't bitch about my smoke. If you invite me to your home, I promise I won't smoke and will not complain about you not smoking. When I start banging my head against the wall, I will leave.

Chop...you ROCK!

[ecchi]

RE: "Maybe I should go put my motorcycle helmet on and put my mouth guard in." No you shouldn't. I personally think you are talking bullshit, but I'll fight for your right to talk bullshit. Everyone has a right to their opinions, even if they are wrong. And everyone has a right to voice their opinions, provided they don't stir up hate or violence or such.

RE: "I'm taking hits left and right here" Yeah, well unfortunately as well as you having a right to an opinion, so does everyone else, and the right to voice etc.... And you are lucky, I can be very opinionated, and the replies you are getting are polite compared to the replies I get from some of my board posts.

RE: "I can't believe I'm getting hate e-mail on this subject too" Laugh at it. If someone is afraid to post their opinion on an open board and have to send you hate emails, then however wrong you are, they are worse than you. So just smile smugly and feel superior.

[Boogie]

I am genuinely allergic to tobacco and tobacco products. It triggers my asthma and other breathing problems, making it extremely difficult to breath.

When I say that I'm allergic to smoke, I mean that I cannot sit in it for very long before my throat closes up almost entirely.

I'm sorry if that insults your intelligence.

I am allergic to smoke also. It only bothers me after 3 to 4 pack a day. If you come to my house don't bitch about my smoke. If you invite me to your home, I promise I won't smoke and will not complain about you not smoking. When I start banging my head against the wall, I will leave.

Remind me not to go over to chops place. I probalby wouldnt anyways based on the fact that I dont like to impose on people even when invited but, just remind me

[Boogie]

Oh i'm also superbly allergic to some flowers. Funerals and weddings can be absurdly difficult for me. Thank goodness that a lot of funerals these days seem to have fake flowers though.

I also break out in a pretty serious rash if I touch cut grass

so i'm probably quite the exception to the rule

[Mishi]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

juggernaut, what you state as fact is complete and utter horseshit. There is plenty of medical evidence that nonsmokers have died of cancer(s) caused from second hand smoke. It also causes low birth weight, asthma and a multitude of inner hear disorders in children. It's science. Your addiction is causing you to lose sight of the truth. Get help.

While I am loathe to agree with someone with juggernaut's spelling skills, I have to agree with him here. Studies regarding the effects of second-hand tobacco smoke are specious, at best.

I have no doubt that there are people who are severely bothered by cigarette smoke. I get nauseous and head-achy just walking through the "gardening" aisle at most superstores. And we won't even get into my housemates' cologne habits. Gads.

There are a lot of smokers who need to be more consciencious of the effects their habit has on others. It IS a habit, and we tend to take it for granted. That's not a good thing. But DON'T FUCKING DISS ME IN MY OWN HOUSE. That's the law. And yes, that hits a nerve. Ask me to refrain from smoking in your presence, and I'll probably oblige. Or, we can all go outside and converse and hopefully the miniscule percentage of my smoke that dares to invade your space won't send you into paroxysms.

I'm sorry, I do get overly defensive where this is concerned, but primarily because there is SO MUCH false, misleading and outright bullshit "information." I shouldn't smoke. It's bad for me. I get that. I also shouldn't blow it in your face. Being a decent human being, I get that, too. I'm just damned sick and tired of being demonized because I choose to continue with a bad habit.

I would think anyone who works in porn for a living would understand what it feels like to be ostracized based on false "facts".