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Old 2005-12-24, 07:13 AM   #1
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An old school rant

<rant>For almost 10 years I've always considered submitting and getting listed to Link Lists or TGP's as a privilege. I never tried to argue or fight with any owners. I never accused them of cheating me by not listing me. I still think that way today. It's a privilege to be listed by the sites I submit to.

Unfortunately there is a growing number of new "webmasters" that think they are owed listings. Just because they took the time to build their piece of art. Forget any rules; they expect to be listed period because the took all of a minute or two to put your recip on the page. I totally and vehemently disagree with this thinking!!!</rant>

To all who have listed me over the years may the coming year be a joyous and prosperous one for you and your family
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Old 2005-12-24, 07:47 AM   #2
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Old 2005-12-24, 08:12 AM   #3
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Old 2005-12-24, 09:00 AM   #4
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Nice one Surfn
Happy holidays to you and your beloved ones too!
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Old 2005-12-24, 09:39 AM   #5
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I totally agree and with relatively few new free site makers taking the time to read and learn (and most important LISTEN!!) I can count on one hand the number of good free site makers Ive seen show up in the last year that I have confidence will make a good living in this biz - the rest - well - they arent getting listed at my sites and they can continue to play with their "hobby"

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Old 2005-12-24, 10:55 AM   #6
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Now I know what you mean

I don't ususally pop in to these things, but that was truly amazing

some people have very little business sense.
1st rule in business - don't make enemies unless you have to! These folks are surely shooting themselves in the foot.

THANKS FOR ALL THE FREE TRAFFIC, GUYS!!!
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Old 2005-12-24, 10:59 AM   #7
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I'm with ya Surfn, it's absolutely amazing some of the emails I get. Of course, I just respond back "come post in my thread" and never hear back from most of them, because they KNOW they're assholes and don't want to come out in public with it.

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Old 2005-12-24, 11:03 AM   #8
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I agree linkster and its getting harder to put up a decent daily update, so many rejects and bans, and the new free site builders are suppose to add new content and style to ones LL and its not happening..looks like I'll be adding more hosted content..
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Old 2005-12-24, 11:24 AM   #9
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Very well said Surfn! It seems to be a trend these days

Definitely makes me more appreciative of my quality submitters...you know who you are
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Old 2005-12-24, 11:36 AM   #10
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Well said Surfn! I also said a big thanks and Merry Christmas to all the good submitters and those LL's that list me!!
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Old 2005-12-24, 06:01 PM   #11
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Hi Surfn

Are you a retired Univ Professor of History, or a retired diplomat of Foreign Office?



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<rant>For almost 10 years I've always considered submitting and getting listed to Link Lists or TGP's as a privilege. I never tried to argue or fight with any owners. I never accused them of cheating me by not listing me. I still think that way today. It's a privilege to be listed by the sites I submit to.

To all who have listed me over the years may the coming year be a joyous and prosperous one for you and your family
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Old 2005-12-24, 06:36 PM   #12
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<rant>For almost 10 years I've always considered submitting and getting listed to Link Lists or TGP's as a privilege. I never tried to argue or fight with any owners. I never accused them of cheating me by not listing me. I still think that way today. It's a privilege to be listed by the sites I submit to.

Unfortunately there is a growing number of new "webmasters" that think they are owed listings. Just because they took the time to build their piece of art. Forget any rules; they expect to be listed period because the took all of a minute or two to put your recip on the page. I totally and vehemently disagree with this thinking!!!</rant>

To all who have listed me over the years may the coming year be a joyous and prosperous one for you and your family
The new attitude is many think they are entittled to a fine living doing this. You only are entitled to what you earn.

My 2 cents
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Old 2005-12-24, 06:39 PM   #13
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Hi Surfn

Are you a retired Univ Professor of History, or a retired diplomat of Foreign Office?



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Please shoot yourself in the head and just die.

I think we all had enough of you, Yahook and all others that have no idea how to communicate with people, not to mention the lack of business sense.

WE'RE BORED TO DEATH AND ANNOYED OF YOUR MEANINGLESS POSTS, PLEASE DIE NOW!

Merry Christmas to everybody else
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Old 2005-12-24, 06:49 PM   #14
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My post was for a clever man with sense of humour like Surfn.

Obviously, you never will understand it because you are a bloody silly boy.

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Please shoot yourself in the head and just die.

I think we all had enough of you, Yahook and all others that have no idea how to communicate with people, not to mention the lack of business sense.

WE'RE BORED TO DEATH AND ANNOYED OF YOUR MEANINGLESS POSTS, PLEASE DIE NOW!

Merry Christmas to everybody else
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Old 2005-12-24, 06:51 PM   #15
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Old 2005-12-24, 09:02 PM   #16
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Old 2005-12-24, 09:21 PM   #17
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I guess this is a good thread to thank all the LL owners for all the free traffic so far, and hopefully will continue to get in the future!

THANKS! AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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Old 2005-12-24, 09:21 PM   #18
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Old 2005-12-24, 10:41 PM   #19
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Yikes...I'm pretty fuckin annoyed with some of these guys too Clickbuster...but damn, that was a bit over the top
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Old 2005-12-25, 12:12 AM   #20
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Great post surfn.

Thanks everyone for the patience and all the free traffic over the last year.

Happy Holidays and a successful 2006!
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Old 2005-12-25, 01:14 AM   #21
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Hey Surfin....good rant...actually I don't see it as a rant but reality in many circumstances. Not sure if you submitted any sites to us but if you did hopefully we looked after you well.

You are right in saying its a priviledge and at times I find it very exhausting to review and try to provide solutions to those who want to submit to us (or others at that). Running link lists or link directories is a lot of hard work as you and others will probably agree with.

Anyways, happy holidays and have a great new year of success
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Old 2005-12-25, 01:28 AM   #22
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Yikes...I'm pretty fuckin annoyed with some of these guys too Clickbuster...but damn, that was a bit over the top
Being annoyed with people is one thing. Telling people to shoot themselves in the head and die is quite extreme and less than humane and more inportantly, takes away your credibility as an up standing member of this board. Perhaps Clickbuster should re-phrase or re-state a more intelligent response without making himself appear fanatical, biased or non-sensical.
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Old 2005-12-25, 05:03 AM   #23
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I would like to wish all of the webmasters who have been listing me a very happy holidays. and also to thes who haven't!
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Old 2005-12-25, 05:20 AM   #24
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It's a privilege to be listed by the sites I submit to.
Privilege? I see mostly the pure business relations in it.
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Old 2005-12-25, 05:22 AM   #25
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Being annoyed with people is one thing. Telling people to shoot themselves in the head and die is quite extreme and less than humane and more inportantly, takes away your credibility as an up standing member of this board. Perhaps Clickbuster should re-phrase or re-state a more intelligent response without making himself appear fanatical, biased or non-sensical.
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