My first free site needs a review.

Pork · 2008-01-31, 04:52 PM

Hi guys,

I've just finished my first free site and I'd like to know your opinion about it. Will link list owners have any complaints? Should I improve something?

here is url: http://porn-thing.com/hot-pink-blonde/free-pic.html

oh, and this is my first post on GG&Jim's forum, so welcome everybody

Thanks!

p.s. I hope I've posted this in good place

JackDaniel's · 2008-01-31, 05:47 PM

Welcome to GG&J Pork

First of all you should check out this page http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/newsites.htm to see how good free sites look like.

Your galleries don't have any content on them. You should start adding some pictures/movies to you galleries

Some of the text links on your free site are blind links. To learn more about blind links read this great thread

http://greenguysboard.com/board/show...ax+blind+links

You could also optimize you site for search engines. Add some meta tags to your pages. You can find more about that here : http://www.pageresource.com/html/meta.htm

Good Luck

Mateusz · 2008-01-31, 05:57 PM

What JackDaniel's said plus your photos are completly out of order (not to mention they are quiet huge).
Starting your career with such free content is not best idea either - you will get much better results if you spent few bucks for your own content

horney · 2008-01-31, 07:57 PM

Your site breaks horribly in any decent browser - don't even think about IE and decent in the same thought pattern. The two words are mutually exclusive.

FF has more than one third of the browser market now. My stats are showing visitor levels way over that, which is why I design for compliance then fix for IE later. Believe me, it is a lot easier that way round. Design for IE then fix for compliant and you are fucked.

Useless · 2008-01-31, 09:50 PM

There is something quite odd going on there. Your thumbs don't appear in IE, but the site looks fine in Firefox. That's a new one to me. Probably some type of .htaccess referrer issue.

Outside the images being out of order, (and missing in IE) it's fine by my every-changing standards.

BTW, my stats tell me that Firefox demands less than one quarter of the market - and my stats are the only ones that matter.

IE is 65%+. Safari is around 4-5% and probably growing as more and more users switch to fruit.

horney · 2008-01-31, 10:35 PM

Yes, it looks a lot better. Whatever was broke, you fixed it quick. I'm looking in FF by the way.

Hmm. Getting the same as UW in IE6. Source code says there are height and width attributes on the image tags without values. Nothing else stands out, but it's 3.30 a.m. here and the brain isn't functioning on all cylinders.

New to you UW? Not heard of IE breaking perfectly good web sites? Now that is new.

Good to hear about Safari, UW. I don't have it but have heard it's great. Is a Linux version available yet?

CrazySy · 2008-01-31, 10:36 PM

There is no value for height & width for the thumbs. Right now it's like height="" width=""

Useless · 2008-01-31, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horney

New to you UW? Not heard of IE breaking perfectly good web sites? Now that is new.

You're one of those Firefox snobs, aren't you? Firefox is, by the way, my browser of choice.

Images disappearing in one browser while existing fine in another is new to me - yes. Things generally laying out differently in IE as opposed to Firefox is not new to me though. I've given up caring about which is at fault and find it more fruitful to seek hacks which appease each of them.

Pork · 2008-02-01, 07:09 AM

ouch, what a shame|shocking|. I've tested layout in IE before placing the thumbs. But now everything should be ok.

I've replaced blind links also.
I don't use keywords meta tag since google don't care them, so it's waste of time imo. Except description tag, which is used in serp.

I wanted to start at minimum cost, so I used promo content. I've planned to purchase some fresh content after first signups & first bucks. Maybe I should have chose less saturated sponsor?

Thanks for helping me

hashbury · 2008-02-01, 12:26 PM

the pics are still not in order
but i can see them in ie.

horney · 2008-02-01, 02:52 PM

Quote:

You're one of those Firefox snobs, aren't you?

Nope. I couldn't care less which browser people use. That's up to them.

I don't like M$, because of their insistance on being a part of each and every standard agreed and then immediately reneging; and their "marketing" tactics are another reason. They've been fined several times in the EU, of which my country is a part, for dishonest practices. Many states of the USA, too, if you hadn't noticed.

None of that has anything to do with whether I am pro or anti FF. There are many perfectly good standards-compliant browsers and FF certainly has its faults.

All that aside, it's a lot easier to design in a standards-compliant browser, then fix for the broken IE box model and fix doctypes, than it is to try and do it the other way around. You don't need much by way of hacks that way, either.

japamor · 2008-02-01, 04:44 PM

Pork
Welcome to the board. You're in the right place.

Its a pleasing design but your warning on your first page is way too big, its a waste of space.

Put text under and over your banners or replace some banners with text - you'll get better results.

I counted 7 sites being advertised - that's spreading your message too thinly - focus on 1 or 2 sites over your 4 pages, 7 sites is just confusing the surfer.

But if that's your first site you've made a good start!

Cheers

2008-01-31, 04:52 PM	#1
Pork Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2	My first free site needs a review. Hi guys, I've just finished my first free site and I'd like to know your opinion about it. Will link list owners have any complaints? Should I improve something? here is url: http://porn-thing.com/hot-pink-blonde/free-pic.html oh, and this is my first post on GG&Jim's forum, so welcome everybody Thanks! p.s. I hope I've posted this in good place

2008-01-31, 05:47 PM	#2
JackDaniel's I like work, it fascinates me, I can sit and look at it for hours... Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,217	Welcome to GG&J Pork First of all you should check out this page http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/newsites.htm to see how good free sites look like. Your galleries don't have any content on them. You should start adding some pictures/movies to you galleries Some of the text links on your free site are blind links. To learn more about blind links read this great thread http://greenguysboard.com/board/show...ax+blind+links You could also optimize you site for search engines. Add some meta tags to your pages. You can find more about that here : http://www.pageresource.com/html/meta.htm Good Luck __________________ Submit Your Sites : Get Porn Links

2008-01-31, 09:50 PM	#5
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	There is something quite odd going on there. Your thumbs don't appear in IE, but the site looks fine in Firefox. That's a new one to me. Probably some type of .htaccess referrer issue. Outside the images being out of order, (and missing in IE) it's fine by my every-changing standards. BTW, my stats tell me that Firefox demands less than one quarter of the market - and my stats are the only ones that matter. IE is 65%+. Safari is around 4-5% and probably growing as more and more users switch to fruit. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2008-01-31, 10:35 PM	#6
horney Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 111	Yes, it looks a lot better. Whatever was broke, you fixed it quick. I'm looking in FF by the way. Hmm. Getting the same as UW in IE6. Source code says there are height and width attributes on the image tags without values. Nothing else stands out, but it's 3.30 a.m. here and the brain isn't functioning on all cylinders. New to you UW? Not heard of IE breaking perfectly good web sites? Now that is new. Good to hear about Safari, UW. I don't have it but have heard it's great. Is a Linux version available yet? Last edited by horney; 2008-01-31 at 10:40 PM..

2008-01-31, 10:36 PM	#7
CrazySy There are no stupid questions, just stupid people! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME,USA Posts: 1,393	There is no value for height & width for the thumbs. Right now it's like height="" width="" __________________ I Build Freesites - List of Active Link Lists

2008-01-31, 05:57 PM	#3
Mateusz Screw you, guys. I'm going home. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gliwice, Poland Posts: 996	What JackDaniel's said plus your photos are completly out of order (not to mention they are quiet huge). Starting your career with such free content is not best idea either - you will get much better results if you spent few bucks for your own content

2008-01-31, 07:57 PM	#4
horney Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-tip! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 111	Your site breaks horribly in any decent browser - don't even think about IE and decent in the same thought pattern. The two words are mutually exclusive. FF has more than one third of the browser market now. My stats are showing visitor levels way over that, which is why I design for compliance then fix for IE later. Believe me, it is a lot easier that way round. Design for IE then fix for compliant and you are fucked.

2008-02-01, 07:09 AM	#9
Pork Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2	ouch, what a shame\|shocking\|. I've tested layout in IE before placing the thumbs. But now everything should be ok. I've replaced blind links also. I don't use keywords meta tag since google don't care them, so it's waste of time imo. Except description tag, which is used in serp. I wanted to start at minimum cost, so I used promo content. I've planned to purchase some fresh content after first signups & first bucks. Maybe I should have chose less saturated sponsor? Thanks for helping me

2008-02-01, 12:26 PM	#10
hashbury My name is hashbury not assburry Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,125	the pics are still not in order but i can see them in ie. __________________ Sig Goes Here!

2008-02-01, 04:44 PM	#12
japamor I Love Turkish Delight, they're very moreish. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 578	Pork Welcome to the board. You're in the right place. Its a pleasing design but your warning on your first page is way too big, its a waste of space. Put text under and over your banners or replace some banners with text - you'll get better results. I counted 7 sites being advertised - that's spreading your message too thinly - focus on 1 or 2 sites over your 4 pages, 7 sites is just confusing the surfer. But if that's your first site you've made a good start! Cheers __________________