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[Hammer]

We're just going to have to agree to disagree because I have no interest in continuing this conversation. Obviously neither of us is going to be able to change the other's viewpoint and I have better things to do. Frankly, I think you're in the wrong business.

As for your question about my selling fantasy and then asking if that meant I condoned child rape, you're being ridiculous and offensive. Good day.

[furrygirl]

Originally Posted by Hammer

We're just going to have to agree to disagree because I have no interest in continuing this conversation.

Way to address all my points.

I might not be in the majority, but I make a note to not do business with people who openly advocate "anything to turn a profit", because who knows where you people draw the line. I find it perfectly sound and reasonable to ask if you would promote "fantasy" child-raping erotica, because from your criminal mentality, it seem like you would if there was money in it for you. I also wouldn't put it past you to rip off affiliates and customers if you're all about making money and rejecting all senses of business ethics. It's a slipperly slope, being an outspoken champion of making a buck for yourself at any price, and I'm surely not the only one paying attention to your posts.

Originally Posted by Hammer

Frankly, I think you're in the wrong business.

That's fine. I think you're the kind of person who is purposefully ruining this business and giving honest and ethical adult business owners a bad name.

Originally Posted by Hammer

As for your question about my selling fantasy and then asking if that meant I condoned child rape, you're being ridiculous and offensive. Good day.

I find it offensive to see you peddling your arrogant, dangerous, amoral me-first philosophy that making money is more important than anything else in this world.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by furrygirl

I might not be in the majority, but I make a note to not do business with people who openly advocate "anything to turn a profit", because who knows where you people draw the line. I find it perfectly sound and reasonable to ask if you would promote "fantasy" child-raping erotica, because from your criminal mentality, it seem like you would if there was money in it for you. I also wouldn't put it past you to rip off affiliates and customers if you're all about making money and rejecting all senses of business ethics.

Criminal mentality? It's a crime now to not promote condom use on a website? You need to get a grip.

You also need to start watching your words carefully. I'm perfectly willing to debate an issue with anyone, but you are now making personal attacks and libelous ones at that.

No, I do not condone child rape and don't have a fucking clue what that has to do with what I said. I said I was promoting fantasies, I never said I promoted illegal fantasies.

You wouldn't put it past me to rip off affiliates? What a moronic statement. How in the hell do you segue from an argument about the issue of promoting condoms on a porn site to calling me a criminal and accusing me of being unethical?

In another thread you're conding linking to a site that promotes prostitution, but you have the ovaries to tell me I have a criminal menatlity because I don't see the point in using a porn site to raise public awareness about condoms?

p.s. I noticed that you sell condoms on at least one of your sites so it looks to me like you're arguing your position from one of profit and not altruism.

[furrygirl]

You have some serious reading comprehension problems.

Originally Posted by Hammer

Criminal mentality? It's a crime now to not promote condom use on a website? You need to get a grip.

Where did I claim that's it's illegal to feature bare-backing in porn? (Simple-minded people can never seem to grasp the difference between saying that something is an ethical question and saying that something is illegal.)

I did not call you a criminal.

I said that believing in casting aside ethics in the name of benefiting yourself financially is a *criminal mentality*.

Originally Posted by Hammer

No, I do not condone child rape and don't have a fucking clue what that has to do with what I said. I said I was promoting fantasies, I never said I promoted illegal fantasies.

You wouldn't put it past me to rip off affiliates? What a moronic statement. How in the hell do you segue from an argument about the issue of promoting condoms on a porn site to calling me a criminal and accusing me of being unethical?

Thank you for clarifying that there are some things you wouldn't want to make money off of, you never did in the past. If you take the position that you sell "fantasies" and don't believe in any sense of ethics, it's really not a stretch to ask you if you would promote "fantasy" CP. Nor is it a stretch to wonder if someone who's a crusader for amorality would rip people off.

Originally Posted by Hammer

In another thread you're conding linking to a site that promotes prostitution, but you have the ovaries to tell me I have a criminal menatlity because I don't see the point in using a porn site to raise public awareness about condoms?

Again, reading comprehension. EmpressM is not a hooker, she is a dominatrix. She has not been charged with a crime. She is not charging for sex. From what I can gather, she is charging people for legal BDSM sessions. Your point makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Hammer

p.s. I noticed that you sell condoms on at least one of your sites so it looks to me like you're arguing your position from one of profit and not altruism.

Oh, look how clever you are, clicking on my sig to dig up "dirt" on me.

Where on earth do you keep getting the idea that I'm some wide-eyed crazy who is against making money? I have, in fact, stated in this thread, repeatedly, that I am here to make money, just not at any cost. READING COMPREHENSION. There is a world of grey area between running a non-profit social justice project that aims to benefit all humankind and being a sleazy money-grubber who would do anything for a buck. You can't seem to grasp that, though.

I know that these ethics discussions befuddle people like you, but let me repeat myself one more time.

I am not against making money. I am not in favor of the government passing a law to force condom use in porn. Nor do I even think that all porn should have to feature condoms. I am *for* running an adult business that has just a modicum of social responsibility when it comes to the messages it sends.

Do you see me picking on every person here who links to sites that show condom-free porn? No, because I only have an interest in picking on people like yourself who want to be outspoken champions of not having ethics as pornographers. Condoms in porn are just a drop in the bucket, as I've said, but it's a nice gesture, a positive thing to promote, and a responsible thing to sexualize. If such a relatively small ethical discussion stimulates such a rabid amoral response from you, lordy knows how you would deal with bigger issues.