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Old 2006-12-15, 09:43 AM   #1
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That's so true. Everytime I bitch about horrible ratios, I get the "Everything is fine on my side" answer from the program owner and in my head i'm saying "I'm sure it is, you rat bastard".
They always say that, no matter the program software. It's always the webmaster that is doing something wrong or their traffic. Amazing how that can happen when nothing changes on the webmasters side.

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Old 2006-12-15, 09:53 AM   #2
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Fuckin' NATS!

.. and lose the fucking visual confirmation login shit.. who the fuck is trying to login apart from the owner of the account

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I have a feeling that is an option & thus, it's the program owner's fault that they have the regular login boxes on the front page & after you enter the correct info, you are sent to a new page with more login boxes & the image confirmation text.
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Old 2006-12-15, 10:02 AM   #3
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They always say that, no matter the program software. It's always the webmaster that is doing something wrong or their traffic. Amazing how that can happen when nothing changes on the webmasters side.

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I'm convinced that the program owner has a big red button (like in those Staples commericals) that says DO NOT CREDIT AFFILIATE SALES that he pushes every once in a while when sales are slow and
occasionally the affiliate manager with the fat ass presses it by accident while leaning on the desk talking to the hot secretary (just kidding of course, or am i?)
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Old 2006-12-15, 12:21 PM   #4
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So...I'm gathering here that it wouldn't be to smart for LotzaDollars to make the choice to switch to Nats?
As a program owner, the only reason why I feel it would be necessary for our business model to choose another software company other than the one we're using (Taboo Tracking) would be for their stats.
Unlike some other sponsers, I wouldn't be switching for the sole reason of cascade billing, as we already have that in place. So the idea that Nats, or any other program would bring me a 20-25% increase in sales is false. We did gain a significant increase in revenue when we implemented cascade billing into my company a couple years ago. I'm only looking at providing affiliates with a better stats solution than the one we currently use. Any suggestions before I make a switch?
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Old 2006-12-15, 12:26 PM   #5
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Any suggestions before I make a switch?
Tell Taboo that their current stats are insufficient and light a fire under their ass to improve them.
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Old 2006-12-15, 01:56 PM   #6
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Well I was hoping John would come back to this thread as he promised, but it doesn't look like that is the case so I guess I'll just post my findings.

Keep in mind, this is my theory as to why my personal ratios plummeted after a sponsors switch to NATS. I wish I had done some pre-NATS testing, but as we all know hindsight is 20/20. I have tested the time to live on the cookies that my link codes insert at three seperate times from three different links (both old and new) to three different paysites in their program. Each time my cookie expired within 55 minutes.

Now it's easy to say that if you can't make a sale in 55 minutes, then you're not going to make the sale at all, but apparently according to my pre-NATS stats (with a longer cookie life I would presume) as compared to my post-NATS maybe I was selling after those 55 minutes. A great theory on this is that maybe I was selling on type-ins because my freesites were so fucking awesome as compared to the crappy freesites they saw after mine, that the surfer just had to go back to the site I was selling for and donate my commission to me.

All joking aside the majority of my inbounds and also my sales to that sponsor were from "no referrer" prior to NATS. Was it type in traffic or did their old stats just suck? You tell me. What I can tell you is that as of right now I am at 1:7241.

And while I love the people at the program and enjoyed working with their sites and their content, I just can't justify continued traffic directed to ratios that bad. All of my scripted links have been deactivated, the hardcoded links are being removed as I update my pages, and I'm no longer building freesites or mini-hubs with their links/content.

In the short term they may have saved on my commssion on a few sales, but in the long term they will be losing a good source of steady targetted traffic.
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Well I was hoping John would come back to this thread as he promised, but it doesn't look like that is the case so I guess I'll just post my findings.
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Old 2006-12-15, 02:43 PM   #8
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Ok, my mistake. Will this work as a retraction?

Well I was hoping John would come back to this thread (and post answers to the questions posed to him) as he promised, but it doesn't look like that is the case so I guess I'll just post my findings...
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