I just "broke" the penisbot captcha... Further to the Captcha discussion...

[Viper]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

What exactly is it that you do for a living?

I've already preety much said in this and the other thread...

[Viper]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

Don't see how I attacked you either

Given Lemmy's responses and the "tone" of the thread I took your post to be a personal slight/attack.. if that wasn't your intention then I apologize for my response to you..

[SheepGuy]

Originally Posted by Viper

Given Lemmy's responses and the "tone" of the thread I took your post to be a personal slight/attack.. if that wasn't your intention then I apologize for my response to you..

It wasn't my intention at first, I was just kind of scratching my balls and thinking WTF?
No need for an apology now though
As a BTW though, in this biz if you don't sell you don't eat.

[Viper]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

As a BTW though, in this biz if you don't sell you don't eat.

Selling to surfers is different... I'm very good at that... I know on which side my bread is buttered...

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by Viper

...Do you submit freesites to say 50 LLs a day? If you did you'd soon realize that it's not cost effective to do it by hand...

Cost effective? Sure it is. I've cut way back but for over a year I hand submitted to around 90 link lists. It took about an hour and a half. I can build a site in 3 hours and with the manual submission I was through in 5 hours. Cost effective? Sure, especially with the good will developed with quite a few link lists.

Now, are you trying to educate link list owners that there is a flaw in their captchas or educate submitters on how to defeat the captchas?

[Viper]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

Cost effective? Sure it is. I've cut way back but for over a year I hand submitted to around 90 link lists. It took about an hour and a half. I can build a site in 3 hours and with the manual submission I was through in 5 hours. Cost effective? Sure, especially with the good will developed with quite a few link lists.

Now, are you trying to educate link list owners that there is a flaw in their captchas or educate submitters on how to defeat the captchas?

Is it cost effective? So how much do you actually make for those 5 hours? If you're not making at least $50 an hour then I'm sorry to say it's simply not... I've seen some very long time submitters post saying the same thing you have.. Doing a site a day and hand submitting.. They've publicly stated that their income from that is $1500 - $2000 a month, MAYBE $3000.. That's not cost effective, that's hobby money.

Did I say how to defeat the catpcha? No... Seems pretty clear to me...

[Lemmy]

Originally Posted by Viper

Go back and read what I've actually been attempting to communicate... Nowhere have I preached the benifits of auto-submitting...

Originally Posted by Viper

I think you're biased by this forum... Do you submit freesites to say 50 LLs a day? If you did you'd soon realize that it's not cost effective to do it by hand...

I don't know how else to interpret this.

[Viper]

Originally Posted by Lemmy

I don't know how else to interpret this.

That's hillarious.. you take those 9 words and ignore everything else I've said including a bunch of solutions to cheaters etc. I put in that other thread.. Way to go!!!!!

Yep.. at this point, it's simply not cost effective to submit to the majority of the LLs out there by hand... In fact, I was going to make some posts about how some of you smaller LL owners could adapt and get more traffic into your sites to actually make it cost effective which would benifit everyone.. But given the repsonses to date it's clearly not going to be worth it...

It's a shame really... On a couple other boards people love it when I post this type of information, advice, write some script for them to use or write an "article" about some WM topic etc. This board just has a really weird attitude about things. You just can't rock the status quo.

[Lemmy]

Originally Posted by Viper

That's hillarious.. you take those 9 words and ignore everything else I've said including a bunch of solutions to cheaters etc. I put in that other thread.. Way to go!!!!!

No, not ignoring, but putting into context. You're bitching about some simple, non-intrusive security measures, bragging about breaking PB's captcha AND saying that handsubmission is waste of time.

[Viper]

Originally Posted by Lemmy

No, not ignoring, but putting into context. You're bitching about some simple, non-intrusive security measures, bragging about breaking PB's captcha AND saying that handsubmission is waste of time.

With the pure quantity of shit I've said in this and the other thread you choose to put it into that context.. Sad...

Yep.. hand submission IS a waste of time if the ROI isn't there.. Pretty basic business sense.. How could anyone not understand that...

I wasn't "bragging"... As I said in the title of this thread, this was a continuation of that other thread... I was pointing out how fast and easy it was to break it.. In other words.. If I can do it, then every serious cheater out there has done it and is submitting to all those link lists.. So it's basically a waste of time for everyone...