NFL off season moves and News - Page 4

Torn Rose · 2005-04-23, 12:56 PM

Damn, just dawned on me, we should have had a pool going on if Marice Clarrett gets drafted or not.

If hes taken before the 6th round I would be shocked.

pornrex · 2005-04-23, 12:58 PM

Ricky was done a while ago.

dareutwo · 2005-04-23, 01:48 PM

Yes!!!

Speed rules with Willliamson

Torn Rose · 2005-04-23, 02:19 PM

WOW!!!!

The Lions take a WR 3 years in a row... Mike Williams....

Big Shock, talk about major pressure on Joey this year.

Trev · 2005-04-23, 03:20 PM

Not many trades going on like people figured. I was hoping the Browns could trade down. But Edwards is an ok pick since we had to stick to #3. As a lifelong Buckeye fan though. It's gonna be tough getting past that michigan thing........ (hey Braylon.. lots of touchdowns would help me get over it)

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Torn Rose · 2005-04-23, 03:45 PM

whats worse, Aaron Rogers going into the draft thinking he was a #1 pick or having to sit there for 3+ hours hearing why you are still sitting there?

Trev · 2005-04-23, 03:51 PM

That has to be tough... just sitting there watching money fly away. Altho, it could land him with a better team, unless he lasts into the 2nd round.

Kinky · 2005-04-23, 05:23 PM

I'm happy as hell that Rogers fell that far... we might finally have a decent backup for Brett plus he can't play forever

Torn Rose · 2005-04-23, 05:28 PM

Yeah, he couldn’t ask for a better teacher to learn from, but now can he handle being the man who might take over for Bret?

I don’t think I would want that job. Every Monday hearing “Bret would have made a TD, Bret would have done this, Bret would have…”

FanTC · 2005-04-23, 05:34 PM

I just feel like getting beat up, so here's my prediction. Aaron Brooks will learn to not be retarded with a little protection from our #13 pick, Jammal Brown of Oklahoma.
Deuce McAllister will have a phenomenal year. Joe Horn will be outstanding and
Haslett will get a new contract because the Saints will sweep the South.

Thumbler · 2005-04-23, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FanTC

Deuce McAllister will have a phenomenal year. Joe Horn will be outstanding and
Haslett will get a new contract because the Saints will sweep the South.

And then you'll wake up

The Falcons will sweep the South

FanTC · 2005-04-23, 05:58 PM

Ok, so it's wishful thinking. But I got my season tickets. Maybe I'm still pickled from last year's trips to the French Quarter after the games.

I don't put as much faith in Vick as everyone else does. We have beaten the Falcons before, and I hope we will again. The secret is containing his scramble.

Brooks is a helluva scrambler too if the line would give him somewhere to go.

Who Dat?

Torn Rose · 2005-04-23, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torn

Damn, just dawned on me, we should have had a pool going on if Marice Clarrett gets drafted or not.

If hes taken before the 6th round I would be shocked.

Wow...Denver... if anyone can make him a star it's Denver

dareutwo · 2005-04-23, 11:23 PM

Go figure - I think that'll be a waste of time.

Torn Rose · 2005-05-19, 10:31 AM

How the mighty (mouth) has fallen

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2063459

Yet another athlete with million dollar talent and a 10 cent attitude. He would have been a serious Heisman candidate had he kept his mouth shut and just played his game, but.....

Would love to see him have to repay $6 million +

Ramster · 2005-05-19, 11:10 AM

Wow, that sucks!

Torn Rose · 2005-05-19, 11:51 AM

Ramster since you are so far up north, you may not know much of the antics of Winslow, he is the son of a Hall of Famer and when he was at Miami I picked him as the Heisman winner early, since he made not big plays, but huge plays.

Then he started talking to the press which began his downfall and after a game in which they won, he was all pissed off and running his mouth and said he is a solider and that it is a war zone out there and he’s for real and will kill anyone who gets in his way, this was a few weeks after Pat Tillman was killed.

He refused to apologize, and his plays went from big time to “get that guy off the field, he’s in the way” all the time while running his mouth and blaming everyone from the press to the coach to the qb, never once himself for the fumbles and drops.

Now at Cleveland he is doing the same shit, makes one or 2 good plays and then gets hurt and runs his mouth… This guy is what is wrong with sports, when they think they are bigger then the sport itself.

Greenguy · 2005-05-19, 12:06 PM

That whole thing was blown way out of proportion - how many time in the past have you heard football referred to as "war" & the field as a "battle field"

Kinky · 2005-05-19, 12:16 PM

Quote:

yo yo yo I'm a fuckin' soldier

BRETT FAVRE IS A GOD

Greenguy · 2005-05-19, 01:59 PM

Thou shall have no Gods before me

Ramster · 2005-05-19, 03:08 PM

Torn
Seems like he is your typical sports player which is sad.

Trev · 2005-05-19, 03:45 PM

It's doubtful that he will lose the entire 6mil. The Browns are actually in a fairly sticky place, here. They can't play complete hardball, because there are future free agents to consider. If they take to hard of a line, they may make players reluctant to come here. They also don't want to come off as too soft.

Also, Winslow is still only 21 and will only be 22 when he can come back next year. He probably still has a long and maybe great career ahead of him. IF, he grows up.

Most likely they work on restructuring his contract. Load it with more incentives to offset any monies lost this year.

As for Winslow.... he's just a stupid kid, who I hope will now have the motivation to grow up a little. He really does have all the talent in the world. It would be a shame to see him waste it.

dareutwo · 2005-05-19, 04:59 PM

He'll grow up just like Randy Moss and J.R. Rider did.
At least we have KG around! And I'm beginning to really like Tory Hunter from the Twins. He bitched a little bit about his contract, but not to the media.

In response to Trev's comments -
I think you're going to see a lot more Incentives and less Upfront money in the future.
If players aren't smart enough to go to Lloyds of London and get a 10+ million dollar insurance policy against them getting injured, that's their problem.

Who was the pitcher from the Red Sox that got a 13 million bonus for them winning the series?
That's the kind of contracts there should be.
Very low pay during the season, but bonus' for each step in the playoffs.

Trev · 2005-05-19, 06:15 PM

Incentives can be tricky. He already lost around 9mil worth of 'easy' incentives from his record 40mil contract by breaking his leg on that onside kick at the end of his second game. So he never had a chance to reach any of them.

Quote:

I think you're going to see a lot more Incentives and less Upfront money in the future.

Incentives like that can be tough in the sports with salary caps. You would have to leave a lot of room in your cap, if half of your roster has significant bonus clauses in their contracts.

Quote:

He'll grow up just like Randy Moss and J.R. Rider did.

Oh man, I hope not. Not just because I'm a Browns fan, but his father was one of my favorite players back in the day. But, it seems to me like he needs to put his foot of Jrs ass, instead of 'protecting' him.

Toby · 2005-05-19, 08:46 PM

Incentive clauses are separated into two categories for computing salary cap. Those that are considered "likely to be met" get counted toward this years cap. Those that considered "unlikely to be met" are not. At the end of the season, unmet "likely", and met "unlikley", are tallied up for each team and a debit or credit is applied to the next season's cap. It can get a bit confusing, but it's not half as bad as the mess used by the NBA.

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2005-04-23, 03:20 PM	#80
Trev Is it over already? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the beautiful shores of Lake Erie Posts: 890	Not many trades going on like people figured. I was hoping the Browns could trade down. But Edwards is an ok pick since we had to stick to #3. As a lifelong Buckeye fan though. It's gonna be tough getting past that michigan thing........ (hey Braylon.. lots of touchdowns would help me get over it) . __________________ Hey buddy... can you spare a sig?

2005-04-23, 03:51 PM	#82
Trev Is it over already? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the beautiful shores of Lake Erie Posts: 890	That has to be tough... just sitting there watching money fly away. Altho, it could land him with a better team, unless he lasts into the 2nd round. __________________ Hey buddy... can you spare a sig?

2005-04-23, 05:23 PM	#83
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	I'm happy as hell that Rogers fell that far... we might finally have a decent backup for Brett plus he can't play forever __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3

2005-04-23, 12:56 PM	#76
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Damn, just dawned on me, we should have had a pool going on if Marice Clarrett gets drafted or not. If hes taken before the 6th round I would be shocked.

2005-04-23, 02:19 PM	#79
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	WOW!!!! The Lions take a WR 3 years in a row... Mike Williams.... Big Shock, talk about major pressure on Joey this year.

2005-04-23, 03:45 PM	#81
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	whats worse, Aaron Rogers going into the draft thinking he was a #1 pick or having to sit there for 3+ hours hearing why you are still sitting there?

2005-04-23, 05:28 PM	#84
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Yeah, he couldn’t ask for a better teacher to learn from, but now can he handle being the man who might take over for Bret? I don’t think I would want that job. Every Monday hearing “Bret would have made a TD, Bret would have done this, Bret would have…”

2005-04-23, 05:34 PM	#85
FanTC If heaven ain't alot like Dixie, I ain't goin! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 885	I just feel like getting beat up, so here's my prediction. Aaron Brooks will learn to not be retarded with a little protection from our #13 pick, Jammal Brown of Oklahoma. Deuce McAllister will have a phenomenal year. Joe Horn will be outstanding and Haslett will get a new contract because the Saints will sweep the South. __________________ Submit your free sites to Portal to Porn

2005-04-23, 05:58 PM	#87
FanTC If heaven ain't alot like Dixie, I ain't goin! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 885	Ok, so it's wishful thinking. But I got my season tickets. Maybe I'm still pickled from last year's trips to the French Quarter after the games. I don't put as much faith in Vick as everyone else does. We have beaten the Falcons before, and I hope we will again. The secret is containing his scramble. Brooks is a helluva scrambler too if the line would give him somewhere to go. Who Dat? __________________ Submit your free sites to Portal to Porn

2005-04-23, 11:23 PM	#89
dareutwo You can't disprove anything with evidence that doesn't exist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Minnesota - pop 865 +/- 1 Posts: 2,038	Go figure - I think that'll be a waste of time. __________________ This is me Mark's-Links

2005-05-19, 10:31 AM	#90
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	How the mighty (mouth) has fallen http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2063459 Yet another athlete with million dollar talent and a 10 cent attitude. He would have been a serious Heisman candidate had he kept his mouth shut and just played his game, but..... Would love to see him have to repay $6 million +

2005-05-19, 11:10 AM	#91
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2005-05-19, 11:51 AM	#92
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Ramster since you are so far up north, you may not know much of the antics of Winslow, he is the son of a Hall of Famer and when he was at Miami I picked him as the Heisman winner early, since he made not big plays, but huge plays. Then he started talking to the press which began his downfall and after a game in which they won, he was all pissed off and running his mouth and said he is a solider and that it is a war zone out there and he’s for real and will kill anyone who gets in his way, this was a few weeks after Pat Tillman was killed. He refused to apologize, and his plays went from big time to “get that guy off the field, he’s in the way” all the time while running his mouth and blaming everyone from the press to the coach to the qb, never once himself for the fumbles and drops. Now at Cleveland he is doing the same shit, makes one or 2 good plays and then gets hurt and runs his mouth… This guy is what is wrong with sports, when they think they are bigger then the sport itself.

2005-05-19, 12:06 PM	#93
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2005-05-19, 03:08 PM	#96
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2005-05-19, 03:45 PM	#97
Trev Is it over already? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the beautiful shores of Lake Erie Posts: 890	It's doubtful that he will lose the entire 6mil. The Browns are actually in a fairly sticky place, here. They can't play complete hardball, because there are future free agents to consider. If they take to hard of a line, they may make players reluctant to come here. They also don't want to come off as too soft. Also, Winslow is still only 21 and will only be 22 when he can come back next year. He probably still has a long and maybe great career ahead of him. IF, he grows up. Most likely they work on restructuring his contract. Load it with more incentives to offset any monies lost this year. As for Winslow.... he's just a stupid kid, who I hope will now have the motivation to grow up a little. He really does have all the talent in the world. It would be a shame to see him waste it. __________________ Hey buddy... can you spare a sig?

2005-05-19, 04:59 PM	#98
dareutwo You can't disprove anything with evidence that doesn't exist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Minnesota - pop 865 +/- 1 Posts: 2,038	He'll grow up just like Randy Moss and J.R. Rider did. At least we have KG around! And I'm beginning to really like Tory Hunter from the Twins. He bitched a little bit about his contract, but not to the media. In response to Trev's comments - I think you're going to see a lot more Incentives and less Upfront money in the future. If players aren't smart enough to go to Lloyds of London and get a 10+ million dollar insurance policy against them getting injured, that's their problem. Who was the pitcher from the Red Sox that got a 13 million bonus for them winning the series? That's the kind of contracts there should be. Very low pay during the season, but bonus' for each step in the playoffs. __________________ This is me Mark's-Links

2005-05-19, 08:46 PM	#100
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Incentive clauses are separated into two categories for computing salary cap. Those that are considered "likely to be met" get counted toward this years cap. Those that considered "unlikely to be met" are not. At the end of the season, unmet "likely", and met "unlikley", are tallied up for each team and a debit or credit is applied to the next season's cap. It can get a bit confusing, but it's not half as bad as the mess used by the NBA. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

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