how long does a free site stay listed

[Opti]

List them forever.... and personally think that is the ENTIRE point of webmasters working the freesite/linklist area.. that we make a site and submit and enjoy the link relevence from that forever.. As opposed to TGP which is all about pushing the most traffic immediately with no ling term view.

Personally I think the way people have become obsessed with Linklist traffic numbers is self defeating and submittters are better off making TGP gals than bothering with freesites if the owners plan to dump their prefectly working sites after 6 months or any period.

As far as I am aware, the main reason a linklist dumps good sites... is to "appear" bigger to new submitters and it's actually just ensuring everyone submitting will earn less over the long term.

[buttster]

how can u appear to be bigger if you are dumping sites. Not sure what you mean.

[Opti]

Originally Posted by buttster

how can u appear to be bigger if you are dumping sites. Not sure what you mean.

Because a site with a smaller database will send more clicks on average to each site.


Put your question in reverse... What is the motivation to remove exisitng sites other wise? To keep surfers happy?? LOL

[dareutwo]

Originally Posted by Opti

Put your question in reverse... What is the motivation to remove exisitng sites other wise? To keep surfers happy?? LOL

Opti -
I've been keeping a close eye on this lately.
Ask nearly any LL owner that has been around for more than 6 years, and ask them when sites go 404, redirect, or change page etc...
You get 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours, 1 week, 30 days, 90 days.

What good is a LL free site link to a 1 or two year old site with no PR but has your recip and the other recips LL don't exist?

Any thoughts I may be missing?

[Opti]

Originally Posted by dareutwo

Opti -
I've been keeping a close eye on this lately.
Ask nearly any LL owner that has been around for more than 6 years, and ask them when sites go 404, redirect, or change page etc...
You get 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours, 1 week, 30 days, 90 days.

What good is a LL free site link to a 1 or two year old site with no PR but has your recip and the other recips LL don't exist?

Any thoughts I may be missing?

Well that's another motivation I guess.... but it is still has the same effect... and honestly, I think your clutching at straws to try and use that as an excuse.

If a linksite can manage to monitor sites and ban them for being down 1 day due to host issues... Why do you suddenly need to blanket remove all older than 6 months as its too hard to monitor?

*edit: And if no one dropped listings after six months... the rest of us would have a lot less issues with linking to freesites that other have dropped. It hurts Everyone imho.

[Adult Traffic]

Originally Posted by Opti

*edit: And if no one dropped listings after six months... the rest of us would have a lot less issues with linking to freesites that other have dropped. It hurts Everyone imho.

Yea, that's a fucked up deal. Having half of the recip sites drop the listing and then leach traffic from the other half still sending.

I had an issue one time: I had a deal with a really large site to send me perm gallery traffic in exchange for a recip on the page with 2 other big sites doing the same thing.

Well, I gave him a text file of the galleries and waited. And e-mailed. And waited.

Well, I pulled his recip after some time, all along, he was getting traffic from me and the other 2 sites.

A month and 1/2 after that he came to me and asked where his recip was.

I didn't have a problem giving him a piece of my mind regardless how big he was or who he thought he was in the TGP game.

He was just another cheater that got sent down the road after stealing traffic IMO.

AST