how long does a free site stay listed

[Greenguy]

Let's remember that I do not remove ALL sites after 6 months, just those that have not been "updated"

A little work & a quick FTP 5 months after you built the site would solve this problem

(and I shudder to think of the amount of sites I'd have listed if I didn't do this - LOL)

[Linkster]

Thats the funny part about GGs site that has always made me wonder about people that submit in this biz - back when I made my living basically from submitting free sites, I kept a spreadsheet of every free site I made, and made sure that after 5 months it got "updated" - always seemed like an insignificant thing to do to make sure I kept my listings alive

[stuveltje]

when i had my linksites (ex linksite owner now, but soon again an linksite owner) i removed all the isites which where a year in my linksites, easy reason, i dont want my linksites to big because i wont be able to give them the traffic, so removing the sites after a year out of my database was the solution, i have mention that on the submit page and also that they could resubmit.

[Opti]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Let's remember that I do not remove ALL sites after 6 months, just those that have not been "updated"

A little work & a quick FTP 5 months after you built the site would solve this problem

(and I shudder to think of the amount of sites I'd have listed if I didn't do this - LOL)

I actually don't mind that system the more I think about it.. good way to ensure good people keep getting the benefit whilst weeding out the rest.. but I really do believe 6 months is too short a time to list sites that are trying to build a linklist empire... updated or not.

I Really was not reffering to you as the "problem"... It's the many other sites that drop freesites now that is the worry for me.. I suspect many of these webmasters only do it because they have seen you or Jay doing it, and think that makes it fine.. But hardly anyone else, apart from you, has the "unmanageable numbers" reason..

For example.. over the last 5 years I have received almost 100,000 site submissions at We Love Free Porn.. that's more than 50 sites per day average... which I am pretty sure would be more than than most site's have received over that time. I was always very easy with the rules for regular submitters, and now have 48,187 sites in the database.. Which is close to the upper limit I think my site can stand on it's traffic.. But it is manageable.

New linklist sites do this mainly in reaction to submitters constantly comparing hit numbers from LinkLists.. creating a desire among owners to send more clicks to new sites, at the expense of long term linking which is the whole reason freesite builders have to justify the extra effort they go to imho... seems like a catch22 to me.. Why bother with freesites if people are building today for sales tommorrow, TGP gals are much more effective for that strategy.

Anyway, not trying to be obnoxious to anyone that does drop sites.. hopefully a few will read this and think "shit, I never thought of that angle" more than anything.

Maybe those of us that Don't Drop sites should start mentioning it prominenty on our submit pages.. as a way to encourage more people to run their sites along the lines of what I would call a "genuine linklist model".

[Linkster]

I am one in the camp of pretty much keeping everyones sites listed - however - with the number of sites that I started with (over 2000) that I stole from other LLs and wrote my own descriptions for - those are starting to go away, as well as of course the redirecting and 404s,etc type sites that we find every day.
Another criteria I use is since we hand check all links on a regular basis, and constantly find sites that have pulled recips or changed their code to screw surfers - and our reaction is to pull all sites submitted by that submitter - we can usually stay within the traffic numbers we want to send and the number of sites that are still a benefit to the surfers to promote bookmarking and more friendly sales for the submitters.

[Linkster]

Headboy - I had to think about what you said - I dont think that pulling recips really gains anything for you in the long run as that is a lot of work to go back and check - I also dont think that any linklist would pull a link after 3 months without a really good reason unless its one LL that does it more frequently, but his traffic is so productive, I am more than happy to leave his recip for the amount of money I make during those times the site is listed. I really dont have enough time in the day to go back and even check to see if one LL that I submit to even listed the sites let alone go back 3 months later and worry about the 1 hit a day I might be giving that LL.

[spacemanspiff]

There's another way to look at this. I don't drop sites so it doesn't apply to me, so don't think I'm trying to sell you a bill of goods, but here it is:

Say you like to submit sites to GG (or any other link list) because you know his pages are well positioned in the search engines for some very targeted keyphrases. You really like getting all that SE traffic from him. Why would you want to remove a link on a old ass site that you made six months ago that could be helping GG get those rankings, and helping you get that traffic.

If you need a reason to not waste hours and hours checking all your old sites, there it is.