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Old 2005-03-24, 11:15 PM   #76
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Altheon: the action recommended to stop hotlinkers (the basic one) means that I must also limit my business by not allowing google or yahoo image bots onto my sites. That means I lose traffic and exposure.

Even if the door is unlocked, you are still a thief when you walk in and steal something. Paying someone to steal something isn't exactly a legal business.

AVN and SugarDVD are smart... let's see if others follow.

Alex

PS: Hopefully adbrite, pud, and the avn people will be smart enough to filter off ALL of the fusker sites... this is starting to make me think of "cancelling" a spammer's account.
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Old 2005-03-25, 06:25 AM   #77
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HOWEVER...thanks to your vigilance, and because of hot linking, as of today we will no longer make payments on any
traffic sent to our site from http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?offset=30.
Hi ami,
How about all the other pages that have sugar dvd on them?
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=bukkake&
and so on and so on.........
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Old 2005-03-25, 07:48 AM   #78
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and so on and so on.........
Shit, looks like you got yourself fuskered. Nice bannner.
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Old 2005-03-25, 11:27 AM   #79
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I think that unlike adbrite, ami isn't in a position to make the banners disappear.

However, I would think it better if ami arranged with the program to first send those hits to a "account closed because he is a thief" page, with a "click here to continue on for DVDs" link.

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Old 2005-03-25, 11:36 AM   #80
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Altheon: the action recommended to stop hotlinkers (the basic one) means that I must also limit my business by not allowing google or yahoo image bots onto my sites. That means I lose traffic and exposure.
why not poke a hole to allow yahoo and google?


Code:
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?yourdomain.com(/)?.*$     [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://images\.google\. [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://images\.search\.yahoo\. [NC] 
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jpg|jpeg|bmp|fla|mov|avi|wmv)$ - [F,NC]
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Old 2005-03-25, 12:13 PM   #81
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Hiya RawAlex,
Not banners - bottom text link goes to SugarDVDs, seems to be the case on all their pages?
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Old 2005-03-25, 05:13 PM   #82
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Yes, the text link does - but that is only because sugardvd doesn't control the html on the page (not like adbrite, which controls the content). Just like any other sponsor you have can't pull a banner even if they close your account.

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Old 2005-03-26, 07:55 PM   #83
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Can we get http://search.boobdex.com/?lid=112449 shut down now? or?


they're using avn ads
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Old 2005-03-26, 08:28 PM   #84
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Old 2005-03-26, 10:00 PM   #85
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My adbrite thread... zero replies and 56 views.
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...hlight=Adbrite
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Old 2005-03-26, 10:10 PM   #86
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Usefulidiots is still there on page 2.. just an example
http://dir.adbrite.com/index.cgi?a=2...l_id=59;page=2

You have to click on adult.
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I'm beginning to believe that fusker.lewww was just a cookie tossed our way with hopes of appeasing us. AVN/Adbrite has a long way to go. They really need to start digging in and doing what's right for their advertisers.
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Old 2005-03-26, 10:15 PM   #88
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its just a matter of kicking through, finding the TOS, notifying them. I've done it with perhaps 15 different affiliate programs, using the form letter I wrote earlier, with one response so far. It is Easter weekend, so, I suspect Monday or Tuesday I'll be getting a few emails.
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Old 2005-03-27, 01:36 PM   #89
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I don't understand how sites like fusker and boobdex manage to stay online. Whenever they violate someone's copyright, that person can send a DMCA notice to say.. fuskers ISP and that ISP's ISP. Even if they promptly remove the illegal content and file a counter-notice, the law requires that the ISP take them down for ten business days. It seems like they'd be down just about all the time since their whole business model is based on violating copyrights. Are they hosted in countries that don't care about copyright law?
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Old 2005-03-27, 02:22 PM   #90
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A DCMA complaint needs to come from the copyright holder -- or an authorized agent. That itself becomes difficult. I can look at some content and say, hey, I know that is copyrighted, but, how do you find the copyright holder? You end up finding the original site that is being hotlinked, locate the gallery, guess whether that gallery is content that the webmaster paid for or is sponsor provided content.

But, you are right, it is the right way to do it -- and requires the vigilence of someone that has been hotlinked that can file that paperwork. I've been documenting it for a few clients so that they can file. It will be interesting.
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I'm beginning to believe that fusker.lewww was just a cookie tossed our way with hopes of appeasing us. AVN/Adbrite has a long way to go. They really need to start digging in and doing what's right for their advertisers.
I hope you are not right. I am going to once again ask Aly to put in an appearance and see what the scoop is. Adbrite is rife with sites that are WAY less than desirable as ad space, providing income sources for all sorts of VERY marginal stuff. I am NOT impressed.

I also hope that sugardvd figures out how to put up an "account died" message before their site, so that people know they are coming from a scumbag.

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I also hope that sugardvd figures out how to put up an "account died" message before their site, so that people know they are coming from a scumbag.
You know, I have waffled on this issue for years. On one hand, I agree, I think the site should just not accept the traffic.

But, I also think that it adds extra sting to the wounds of a terminated webmaster when they continue to accept that traffic and make money off of it.

Ask any webmaster that was terminated for fraud which they would hate more.... then lets do that.
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CD, it's just hard for the rest of us to tell if something really has been done, of it we are all just getting fluffed along.

Sexsearch is the latest fusker sponsor. New thread coming up!

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Old 2005-03-27, 07:25 PM   #94
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I received this from Adam of Sexsearch

Thanks for the heads up. I actually just heard of them yesterday because they were hotlinking to all of our hosted galleries. The ads were coming from a campaign w/ adbrite. I told the salesperson contact them to pull that campaign.

So, no need for the new thread coming up
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Umm, Jim... interesting, considering that these things don't click through adbrite's system...

they go through:

http://best-adult-dating.com/?src=fuskerleww

Me thinks that sexsearch has more than one path back to our fusker buddies.

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Old 2005-03-27, 07:29 PM   #96
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Oh, and if anyone from FTVcash is around, or knows someone over there, they are getting hit as well:

http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=587518
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Old 2005-03-27, 08:42 PM   #97
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thanks for the heads up
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Old 2005-03-28, 01:56 AM   #98
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Yes, the text link does - but that is only because sugardvd doesn't control the html on the page (not like adbrite, which controls the content). Just like any other sponsor you have can't pull a banner even if they close your account.

Alex
Yep, gotcha there, what I was worried about was the wording in Ami's post that stated hits from that one page would not be paid out on, rather than the entire domain, which has their text link on. Just wanted to clear up what their position is, as I felt it a bit ambiguous.
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Old 2005-03-29, 10:34 AM   #99
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I am curious, when AVN penned the deal, did they not know about adbrite and fusker? And if they didn't, they really didn't do their homework. That is assuming that this practice is not condoned by AVN. To me, that is a huge assumption.
Maybe they will do a nice full page puff piece on them like they did with Teleterria.
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Gonzo, I don't read AVN most times. For some reason, I don't get it anymore
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