Loved in death

[RawAlex]

it is the problem of using 2000 year old doctorine in the face of modern day problems. AIDs, overpopulation, molesting priests, gay marriage, and many other subjects are beyond what the "good books" say, and to me the church has been making it up as they go. Expecting an 80 year old man to have a modern view is, well, not too freaking likely. The chance that the church changes is about none as well. Not very useful for anyone involved.

Alex

[Wenchy]

Being a pagan, I find it humorous that such a large group of people are comfortable taking direction from a guy who's never held a real job, never gotten his hands dirty dealing with real life, and never had a carnal relationship with a woman. But hey, if people find comfort in their religious leaders, who am I to say they're wrong?

That having been said, I'd love to be there when they all wake up in the afterlife and realize that hell is primarily populated by lawyers, conservative politicians, cardinals, bishops, popes, and priests. That oughta take some fun out of the eternal kegger, dontcha think? |shocking|

And on another note... I wonder how the "let's censor/clean up TV" people feel about the neverending shots of the pope's corpse? They're the ones doing all the complaining about all the death on the tube, after all. Inquiring minds want to know...

[security_man]

Originally Posted by Wenchy

Being a pagan, I find it humorous that such a large group of people are comfortable taking direction from a guy who's never held a real job, never gotten his hands dirty dealing with real life, and never had a carnal relationship with a woman.

umm... you shouldnt assume that john paul II was like the politically annointed here in america. john kerry he wasnt. that dude went through nazis and worse stalinist comunists, he was definately not a pampered premadona who had life handed to him on a silver platter

no matter what you thought of his views you should at least respect the mans tenacity and toughness... or at the very least dont talk about his life until you know what he lived through

[pornrex]

Originally Posted by security_man

umm... you shouldnt assume that john paul II was like the politically annointed here in america. john kerry he wasnt. that dude went through nazis and worse stalinist comunists, he was definately not a pampered premadona who had life handed to him on a silver platter

no matter what you thought of his views you should at least respect the mans tenacity and toughness... or at the very least dont talk about his life until you know what he lived through

Well said security man.