What's your IQ?

[pornrex]

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

Pornex, We can go on all day about politics and our views, we both feel we are right, so there will never be an end to this thread. I know better to get into a debate over politics and religion. You have your beliefs and I respect that.

With that said, you can say what you wish about the liberal party, I would most likely agree with most of it. I think the fact that they are defending funneling what is most likely well over $100m to ad company executives and then they turn around and cut education grants to student is absolutely disgusting! The Liberals used an Ad Campaign among other things to make themselves and their counterparts rich, the bush administration is using the war in Iraq, it’s no coincidence that Cheney was chief executive of Halliburton… all governments are corrupt in one way or another. It’s who you know as the saying goes.

The issue I have with the Bush administration is they went to war on false pretenses, the only way they could justify the invasion of Iraq was to play off the terrorist attacks and the fear of the American people by making Iraq seem like more of a threat to the US and to the world then they actually were. Bush did not invade Iraq to spread democracy, there are many countries that need democracy and actually have nuclear weapons, but they don’t have oil.

Our industry is suffering because of the current administration, any government who will spend $8,000 of taxpayers money to cover the breast on a statue in the Justice dept. will eventually spend whatever it takes to shut you and I down one day.

Hey Kenny...you make some valid arguements.

One final comment I do have to contribute to our "debate" is if there EVER is an effort to "shut you and I down one day" then you will know that day that the American right ot free speech is finished. Let's hope that never happens.

[Bruce Miller]

Originally Posted by pornrex

Hey Kenny...you make some valid arguements.

One final comment I do have to contribute to our "debate" is if there EVER is an effort to "shut you and I down one day" then you will know that day that the American right ot free speech is finished. Let's hope that never happens.

There has already been an ongoing effort. There was a deal made between the Bush administration and Credit Card companies some years ago. In a nut shell, make it harder for adult online merchants do to business and in return there would be tougher bankruptcy laws. You all know about how allowable% of charge backs over the years has steadily declined. When we started in this business in '99 we could have up to 3% in charge backs, then it was 2% then it was 1%, and the fees increased and the regulations increased, the annual surcharges increased to hold a merchant account. We have seen them shut down 3rd party billing companies one after another, and now in just the past 30 days the Administration announced tougher bankruptcy laws will most likely go into effect.

It's already happening, they are slowly working what they can to attempt to slow us down, take our business away and make the religious right happy so that they will vote Republican again in four more years.