Xbiz promoting newsgroup reseller?

RawAlex · 2005-04-19, 12:01 AM

I see your free speech and raise you violated copyrights and failure to follow 2257 guidelines. Explain to me WITH COURT JUDGEMENTS how you are exempt. How can you run KP images without fear?

At the end of the day, newsgroups are the home of scams, spams, KP, lies and crud. Wading through it to get anything useful is a joke, like a million unmoderated chat boards filled with scam artists, theives, and liars. Usenet could die tomorrow and the web would be a MUCH better place.

Are you saying your service does not filter IN ANY WAY usenet? Does not group, selectively display, edit, filter, remove, or in any way present information outside of it's original format?

Jim, once you start filtering (specifically editing) material, you become a producer not just a delivery method. Selectively displaying only images from usenet, example (a common business model, sadly) means that the provider isn't just giving access to the usenet but is filtering, aggregating, and yes, editing the content you see. Google avoids this problem by providing UNEDITED but searchable results, and they always present the final results in context and in format. They don't just extract the images.

Sorry, but rebroadcasting and charging access fees to material that is most certainly illegal isn't exactly a brainy business model.

Alex

eroticusenet · 2005-04-19, 02:31 AM

Interesting observations Alex... completely incorrect... but interesting none the less

As I've noted several times now, we've been providing Usenet services to retail and commercial customers for over a decade. Usenet continues to grow in popularity, and to date, over 2 million valid newsgroup postings pass through our news servers every day. This translates to approximately 800 GB of newsgroup content daily, which is comprised of text discussions and multimedia related to a variety of different topics.

Please note that adult webmasters have utilized the Usenet newsgroups for years to advertise their products, services, and websites. In fact we currently assist a number of adult websites with their promotional postings to the groups. In the end, if a few basic guidelines are followed, the newsgroups benefit by receiving quality content, and adult webmasters benefit by promoting their websites to a worldwide audience.

With our Usenet service, adult and non-adult webmasters can deliver 30,000+ newsgroups through their website, without having to use their servers, storage or bandwidth. At a time when webmasters are looking for new ways to drive and retain traffic at their site... to remain competitive & profitable... our Usenet service provides an inexpensive solution.

Our Usenet service is currently a popular component within a variety of adult websites, and its the same service that we deliver to our non-adult clients, such as ISPs, universities, government agencies, corporations, national newspapers, law firms, etc. It is also the same service that is available on Comcast, Adelphia, RoadRunner, Earthlink, and any other international/national/regional ISP.

The service is easy to use, fully supported by our technical staff, and can be brought online at most websites in less than 15 minutes. No hardware or software required, and our clients' end-users simply need a web browser to access, view and post to the newsgroups.

While you're references to "rebroadcasting", "filtering", "KP", "court judgements" are all very sensational and inflammatory... they ultimately have nothing to do with Usenet or the services that we provide.

As mentioned earlier, it would have been nice to have a productive conversation to see how are respective businesses could benefit one another, rather than get caught up in a bunch of chest pounding and territorial pissings.

With that said, if anyone has questions about our service, or the Usenet community in general, please feel free to contact us any time and we'd be happy to assist you.

(E) info@eroticusenet.com
(T) 408-720-7620

2005-04-19, 12:01 AM	#1
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I see your free speech and raise you violated copyrights and failure to follow 2257 guidelines. Explain to me WITH COURT JUDGEMENTS how you are exempt. How can you run KP images without fear? At the end of the day, newsgroups are the home of scams, spams, KP, lies and crud. Wading through it to get anything useful is a joke, like a million unmoderated chat boards filled with scam artists, theives, and liars. Usenet could die tomorrow and the web would be a MUCH better place. Are you saying your service does not filter IN ANY WAY usenet? Does not group, selectively display, edit, filter, remove, or in any way present information outside of it's original format? Jim, once you start filtering (specifically editing) material, you become a producer not just a delivery method. Selectively displaying only images from usenet, example (a common business model, sadly) means that the provider isn't just giving access to the usenet but is filtering, aggregating, and yes, editing the content you see. Google avoids this problem by providing UNEDITED but searchable results, and they always present the final results in context and in format. They don't just extract the images. Sorry, but rebroadcasting and charging access fees to material that is most certainly illegal isn't exactly a brainy business model. Alex

2005-04-19, 02:31 AM	#2
eroticusenet Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 14	Interesting observations Alex... completely incorrect... but interesting none the less As I've noted several times now, we've been providing Usenet services to retail and commercial customers for over a decade. Usenet continues to grow in popularity, and to date, over 2 million valid newsgroup postings pass through our news servers every day. This translates to approximately 800 GB of newsgroup content daily, which is comprised of text discussions and multimedia related to a variety of different topics. Please note that adult webmasters have utilized the Usenet newsgroups for years to advertise their products, services, and websites. In fact we currently assist a number of adult websites with their promotional postings to the groups. In the end, if a few basic guidelines are followed, the newsgroups benefit by receiving quality content, and adult webmasters benefit by promoting their websites to a worldwide audience. With our Usenet service, adult and non-adult webmasters can deliver 30,000+ newsgroups through their website, without having to use their servers, storage or bandwidth. At a time when webmasters are looking for new ways to drive and retain traffic at their site... to remain competitive & profitable... our Usenet service provides an inexpensive solution. Our Usenet service is currently a popular component within a variety of adult websites, and its the same service that we deliver to our non-adult clients, such as ISPs, universities, government agencies, corporations, national newspapers, law firms, etc. It is also the same service that is available on Comcast, Adelphia, RoadRunner, Earthlink, and any other international/national/regional ISP. The service is easy to use, fully supported by our technical staff, and can be brought online at most websites in less than 15 minutes. No hardware or software required, and our clients' end-users simply need a web browser to access, view and post to the newsgroups. While you're references to "rebroadcasting", "filtering", "KP", "court judgements" are all very sensational and inflammatory... they ultimately have nothing to do with Usenet or the services that we provide. As mentioned earlier, it would have been nice to have a productive conversation to see how are respective businesses could benefit one another, rather than get caught up in a bunch of chest pounding and territorial pissings. With that said, if anyone has questions about our service, or the Usenet community in general, please feel free to contact us any time and we'd be happy to assist you. (E) info@eroticusenet.com (T) 408-720-7620