ccbill scrub up?

Vink · 2005-05-08, 09:47 PM

My ccbill sponsors have also gone to crap. Funny thing one sponsor I promote has nats with ccbill and epoch which I'm doing 1:300 this month. Same sponsor, same tour, same traffic source 1:1754 through my ccbill account. That blows.

Lenny · 2005-05-09, 12:51 AM

Some people seem to be confusing scrubbing with shaving.

Shaving is when a sponsor doesn't give you credit for all of the sales you've sent to them.

Scrubbing is what the credit card processors do to control fraud. The harder they scrub, the more legitimate sales get declined.

This is necessary to keep all the sites under the 1% chargeback ratio allowed by visa.

I see the same thing with epoch. I'll maintain a consistent ratio for awhile and then for no reason at all my ratio will triple for a few days, and then go back to normal.

Other than getting your own merchant account for your sites there's nothing you can do about it.
(Except bang your head against the wall, which I frequently do)

Toby · 2005-05-09, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny

...(Except bang your head against the wall, which I frequently do)

I'm beginning to get calluses on my forehead.

I was just looking at my sales for the month by date. 1st, 5th and 6th were good days, a bit better than average. However, I made a total of 3 new sales during the other 5 days. Makes no sense to me.

Rocco · 2005-05-09, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vink

Funny thing one sponsor I promote has nats with ccbill and epoch which I'm doing 1:300 this month. Same sponsor, same tour, same traffic source 1:1754 through my ccbill account. That blows.

How about overall sales? most sponsors do not count all hits or only count second page hits. although they are not shaving they leave you with an impression of a better join ratio. i became aware of it when i had very bad ratios with ars and emx compared to all other sponsors and then i started to count outlinks and found out that most sponsors try to hide the real ratio.

dont get fooled by ratios!!

Toby · 2005-05-09, 04:52 PM

That's why I track two ratios on my galleries. I track page views per click through (sponsor hits), and sponsor hits per sign-up.

I know from past experience what the normal range should be for page views per click through. When I start getting numbers that are way too high I double check my galleries to make sure all the links are correct, then start investigating why hits aren't getting counted.

Since CCbill's program counts clicks before the surfer gets redirected to the sponsor tour, I've never had a case where clicks to a CCBill program were outside the normal range, unless I'd mucked up the links in the gallery myself.

2005-05-09, 04:52 PM	#5
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2005-05-08, 09:47 PM	#1
Vink Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Van Nuys CA Posts: 124	My ccbill sponsors have also gone to crap. Funny thing one sponsor I promote has nats with ccbill and epoch which I'm doing 1:300 this month. Same sponsor, same tour, same traffic source 1:1754 through my ccbill account. That blows.

2005-05-09, 12:51 AM	#2
Lenny Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26	Some people seem to be confusing scrubbing with shaving. Shaving is when a sponsor doesn't give you credit for all of the sales you've sent to them. Scrubbing is what the credit card processors do to control fraud. The harder they scrub, the more legitimate sales get declined. This is necessary to keep all the sites under the 1% chargeback ratio allowed by visa. I see the same thing with epoch. I'll maintain a consistent ratio for awhile and then for no reason at all my ratio will triple for a few days, and then go back to normal. Other than getting your own merchant account for your sites there's nothing you can do about it. (Except bang your head against the wall, which I frequently do)