Windows or Mac

[cd34]

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/

You could always run this if you are on an X86 architecture.

[amber438]

A friend of mine gave me her 15 inch Powerbook G4 (she got a new smaller one)
and I've been playing with it for the past few days.
It's actually kinda cool..Saw my network immediately, and I was able to load some of my shared folders as volumes within 5 minutes of connecting to the network. Figured out how to install remote desktop to control my big pc and have been playing with that and assorted other things. I kinda like it and will probably use it for reviews and such, as it's only a 550 cpu but not before I get some kind of trojan or anti virus program set up..unless I have no need for them?
It has Tiger installed as well as office 2004. I'm looking into adobe stuff but it only has a 20 gig hard drive so I'd have to upgrade both hard drive and memory to run those efficiently. and that's a bit expensive unless one goes the ebay way.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by amber438

I get some kind of trojan or anti virus program set up..unless I have no need for them?

There isn't any Mac OS X viruses. The virus software itself does cause problems so way run it? I personally do not run any kind of anti virus software and don't know anyone that does.

If you are a really paranoid about it just create a non admin account and login under it. I have a non admin account on my machine for when a friend uses it so that they can't fuckup anything or see my info.

[lukaz]

any OS can get the work done i suppose ...
but i m a mac user since late 80's and i ll just stick to it because their so damn beautiful.
beatiful hardware and nice clean interface and a g5 is burning fast, not only for graphic applications. and whatever is said about incompatibility with other systems or lack of software is just a big misunderstanding.
you may have guessed i am a big macfan

[Murderous]

My Mac broke down about a month ago. I have not been able to get back into the same groove on my sites as I was with the Mac.

I am a Mac lover to the fullest and I cannot wait to get back on one.

In fact... a friend of mine was having this same discussion only days ago. He tried using the whole software argument on me... that didn't last too long.

He says that in any of the computer sections he has visited in the stores lately might have 3 rows of PC software, and only 1 or so for Mac. My argument was this... everything you see on the shelf for PC (minus the game titles) is mostly included in the Macs OS to begin with, whereas the PC has no such software. Most titles for the PC in these sections are sanctioned to the following tasks.

For example...

Anti-Virus - Mac simply does not need to be protected, and if you feel unsafe there is a title or two out there you can purchase... but not NEEDED

Media Player - Windows media player may handle some file formats that mac will not, however the iTunes software and the built in DVD Player are incredibly stable and packed with features that Windows Media Player does not have.

Browser - Mac does come equipped with IE... but the default browser is Safari, which has built in RSS Reading and will read PDF and PSD files. Without a 3rd party app or plug-in.

Calculators of all magnitudes... math, science, graphic, standard and 10 digit (extended)

The preview app on the mac is much like the image viewer on the PC only it will show previews of MANY MANY file formats as opposed to PC... AND it has a slideshow which was only available on PC using ACDsee or similar apps...

Much more, but this reply is LONG.

My opinion is that with OS X.4 and Adobe CS and Macromedia Studio MX 2004, there is nothing you will ever need in this biz, except maybe the occasional Autosubmitter, which seem to only be created in the.exe formats... blah.

Murderous

[RamCharger]

Originally Posted by Murderous

My Mac broke down about a month ago. I have not been able to get back into the same groove on my sites as I was with the Mac.

I am a Mac lover to the fullest and I cannot wait to get back on one.

In fact... a friend of mine was having this same discussion only days ago. He tried using the whole software argument on me... that didn't last too long.

He says that in any of the computer sections he has visited in the stores lately might have 3 rows of PC software, and only 1 or so for Mac. My argument was this... everything you see on the shelf for PC (minus the game titles) is mostly included in the Macs OS to begin with, whereas the PC has no such software. Most titles for the PC in these sections are sanctioned to the following tasks.

For example...

Anti-Virus - Mac simply does not need to be protected, and if you feel unsafe there is a title or two out there you can purchase... but not NEEDED

Media Player - Windows media player may handle some file formats that mac will not, however the iTunes software and the built in DVD Player are incredibly stable and packed with features that Windows Media Player does not have.

Browser - Mac does come equipped with IE... but the default browser is Safari, which has built in RSS Reading and will read PDF and PSD files. Without a 3rd party app or plug-in.

Calculators of all magnitudes... math, science, graphic, standard and 10 digit (extended)

The preview app on the mac is much like the image viewer on the PC only it will show previews of MANY MANY file formats as opposed to PC... AND it has a slideshow which was only available on PC using ACDsee or similar apps...

Much more, but this reply is LONG.

My opinion is that with OS X.4 and Adobe CS and Macromedia Studio MX 2004, there is nothing you will ever need in this biz, except maybe the occasional Autosubmitter, which seem to only be created in the.exe formats... blah.

Murderous

That all goes back to the simple question: what do you want to do with your system? As the FAQ that I quoted said "people work with applications not operating systems." If you are looking to do something other than games then requiring Windows is not a mandatory thing. Most of the major free OS' run on a myriad of underlying hardware arcitectures, but compile and run software just the same regardless (yes, linux will run on a Mac instead of using MacOS). That can be a huge benefit in a company with a heterogenous hardware buying scheme (a mixture SPARC and i386 based servers for instance). However, it all boils down to one thing: what applications do you want to run on a regular basis?

One of the bonus' of running a free OS (Linux, *BSD, whatever) is the sheer volume of free software available that can be used. Commercial stuff is nice for someone that wants to get something running fast. However, the payoff with the free stuff (GIMP, Apache, PHP, OpenOffice, Firefox, etc) is that upgrades are free, compatibility with newer versions of your free OS is pretty much always (dependencies are the only real gotchas and that's resolveable), and none of that nasty licensing nightmare which is core to commercial stuff. You can always used Wine to emulate windows if you need to use a windows to do some of your business with a windows app.

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by RamCharger

That all goes back to the simple question: what do you want to do with your system? As the FAQ that I quoted said "people work with applications not operating systems." If you are looking to do something other than games then requiring Windows is not a mandatory thing. Most of the major free OS' run on a myriad of underlying hardware arcitectures, but compile and run software just the same regardless (yes, linux will run on a Mac instead of using MacOS). That can be a huge benefit in a company with a heterogenous hardware buying scheme (a mixture SPARC and i386 based servers for instance). However, it all boils down to one thing: what applications do you want to run on a regular basis?

One of the bonus' of running a free OS (Linux, *BSD, whatever) is the sheer volume of free software available that can be used. Commercial stuff is nice for someone that wants to get something running fast. However, the payoff with the free stuff (GIMP, Apache, PHP, OpenOffice, Firefox, etc) is that upgrades are free, compatibility with newer versions of your free OS is pretty much always (dependencies are the only real gotchas and that's resolveable), and none of that nasty licensing nightmare which is core to commercial stuff. You can always used Wine to emulate windows if you need to use a windows to do some of your business with a windows app.

I agree with all of that... even as a simple family PC, I would much rather be on my mac... and virtualPC is good enough for what little bit of windows gear I run.

Murderous

[amber438]

Originally Posted by Cleo

There isn't any Mac OS X viruses. The virus software itself does cause problems so way run it? I personally do not run any kind of anti virus software and don't know anyone that does.

If you are a really paranoid about it just create a non admin account and login under it. I have a non admin account on my machine for when a friend uses it so that they can't fuckup anything or see my info.

Kewl..I didnt think so and was not sure..This baby saw my bluetooth dongle immediately, not like the wondows pc which needed drivers..Gonna tru to get it to see my printer and scanner next