how important is unique IP / nameserver to SE ranking?

[neveremail]

I guess you should think of it in terms of what is the actual goal of SEs.
Its to find the content that the surfer is looking for. IPs and name servers are not of any any relevance for that.
Like Bill says - It does have some importance - but it is tiny compared to the other factors such as keywords, backlinks etc.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by neveremail

I guess you should think of it in terms of what is the actual goal of SEs.
Its to find the content that the surfer is looking for. IPs and name servers are not of any any relevance for that.
Like Bill says - It does have some importance - but it is tiny compared to the other factors such as keywords, backlinks etc.

Excuse me, but you are missing the big picture here. Let's say you have 100 freesites in the mature niche. If someone does a search looking for some mature content do you want Google to show all 100 in their search results, or just two of them?

How is it helping the surfer for them to not know about your 98 other sites?

[neveremail]

Originally Posted by baddog

Excuse me, but you are missing the big picture here. Let's say you have 100 freesites in the mature niche. If someone does a search looking for some mature content do you want Google to show all 100 in their search results, or just two of them?

How is it helping the surfer for them to not know about your 98 other sites?

I dont profess being an expert on the subject and please enlighten me if I'm wrong. |cool|

Firstly most of a webmasters free sites (of the same niche) are on the same domain name (or a small number of domain names). But if you are implying that all 100 freesites are on seperate domains then both you as a webmaster and the surfer would want all your sites in the Search Results (unless the pictures and content were pretty much the same, which, if your a good webmaster they shouldn't be).

As bill says if your just pretty much duplicating content then of course your sites will be punished for doing so and to avoid this you should be on different nameservers and IPs. But a good webmaster should not really duplicate content.

So, if you have 100 sites on different domains then yes all of should appear in the search results as long as its not duplicated content. But being free sites (so only small with low PR etc) they will probably be buried very deep in the SERPs.

However 100 sites on 1 IP is a bad idea, I'm sure google will pick up on that and possiblt take a disliking to it (possibly considering it should just be treated as one big site).

So you should limit the amount of sites per IP/nameserver.

I dont really know an exact figure but I think the generally about 5 domains per IP.

Am I right here or not?????

[baddog]

Originally Posted by neveremail

I dont profess being an expert on the subject and please enlighten me if I'm wrong. |cool|

Firstly most of a webmasters free sites (of the same niche) are on the same domain name (or a small number of domain names). But if you are implying that all 100 freesites are on seperate domains then both you as a webmaster and the surfer would want all your sites in the Search Results (unless the pictures and content were pretty much the same, which, if your a good webmaster they shouldn't be).

You have to remember that a spider doesn't look at pictures to see if they are different. It looks at the text, and just how different is your text going to be from site to site?

I do not claim to be a freesite expert, but I do look at dozens of AVS sites daily, and I can only say that my experience is that I can tell by looking at a site which one of my affiliates it belongs to if they are one of those that submits multiple sites every day.

The pictures may change, but the sales pitch is pretty much the same . . . even if it is a different niche.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by neveremail

So, if you have 100 sites on different domains then yes all of should appear in the search results as long as its not duplicated content. But being free sites (so only small with low PR etc) they will probably be buried very deep in the SERPs.

However 100 sites on 1 IP is a bad idea, I'm sure google will pick up on that and possiblt take a disliking to it (possibly considering it should just be treated as one big site).

So you should limit the amount of sites per IP/nameserver.

I dont really know an exact figure but I think the generally about 5 domains per IP.

Am I right here or not?????

A couple points of clarification here:

Good PR or poor PR has zero to do with SERP's.

We do not recommend putting even two domains on 1 IP, much less 100's. You can put several sites on the same class C, as long as their themes are different. That is why you will notice our dedicated hosting packages have up to 14 IPs per Class C, but with unlimited nameservers.

[SexVideoContent]

Originally Posted by baddog

Good PR or poor PR has zero to do with SERP's.

The domains I was referring to are both PR0 and were both in the top 10 on google.

We do not recommend putting even two domains on 1 IP, much less 100's. You can put several sites on the same class C, as long as their themes are different. That is why you will notice our dedicated hosting packages have up to 14 IPs per Class C, but with unlimited nameservers.

What is a 'class c'?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by SexVideoContent

The domains I was referring to are both PR0 and were both in the top 10 on google.


What is a 'class c'?

Then you are seeing first hand that PR does not equal SERP. Good PR is nice, but give me a good SERP any day of the week.

Re: Class C

http://www.gordano.com/kb.htm?q=246

[Bill]

baddog, if you had started out by saying "this is my opinion, and this is why I think this is right", instead of "I'm 100% right and you suck.", you'd be a lot more persuasive.

this ain't gfy, it's not all about being the first to get in a cut.

Funny thing is, I operate as if what you were saying is true, even tho I happen to think there is no certain way to know wether or not it's true.

It's a variable that can be controlled for, and after a certain point in the se game it makes complete sense to use the whole sep ip, c's, & servers approach.

But compared to stuff like keyword choices, text, structure and linking, it's not _that_ important.

Which I believe is what I said originally.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Bill

instead of "I'm 100% right and you suck.", you'd be a lot more persuasive.

Hmmm, did I say either of those things?

[Bill]

I'm paraphrasing, trying to communicate an emotional flavor.

What, you think what I'm saying has no merit?

Just relax man.

[neveremail]

Originally Posted by baddog

Good PR or poor PR has zero to do with SERP's.

Maybe toolbar PR but actual Page Rank does which is what I'm talking about. But thats going off the subjuect anyway.