Someone put a post about the 2257 but cant find it

juggernaut · 2005-06-10, 09:50 PM

I forget who it was. I have an idea and dont want to say who as I dont want to be wrong with a finger pointing. They stated it would be an interesting idea for everyone to take their sites down for one day due to this 2257 thing. I think it was a really good idea. If you want to post who you are thats cool. But I was wondering if anyone gave any real thought to doing something like that?

Greenguy · 2005-06-10, 10:22 PM

Linkster mentioned it, but I forget in which of the 325 "2257" threads he did so on

Useless · 2005-06-10, 10:26 PM

2257 is for pussies.

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=20297

Greenguy · 2005-06-10, 10:59 PM

You are what you eat

juggernaut · 2005-06-11, 01:32 AM

Well I liked the idea and would surly go for it. Not that my site does allot of business but heck i like my voice heard.

swedguy · 2005-06-11, 02:01 AM

What difference would it make?

If surfers doesn't get porn from my site that day, they will go elsewhere. They might read 2 lines of what I have to say regarding 2257 then get bored since they already have the dick in their hand and the wife will be home in 28 minutes and he need to bust a nut before that.

2257 is important to us, but there's not one surfer who cares about it.

juggernaut · 2005-06-11, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by swedguy

What difference would it make?

If surfers doesn't get porn from my site that day, they will go elsewhere. They might read 2 lines of what I have to say regarding 2257 then get bored since they already have the dick in their hand and the wife will be home in 28 minutes and he need to bust a nut before that.

2257 is important to us, but there's not one surfer who cares about it.

What difference would it make? Wel I'm sure your right. Surfers would go get porn from other sites. But from what I have seen most of the sites are owned by people who come here. Or at least they are so interconneted it would handle handle the last part of your statement. Surfers would care after they seen that 99% of the sites they went to that day would be having the same message. And thats the point getting the message out. I have not been in this business long enough to say if this whole thing will even impact anyone here. I hear these nightmares come around every so often to only put people in the adult business in an up roar. But that was then and this is now. New government, one that has been quoted as being a stong and firm believer in not seperating church and state. One that tries very hard to just push their own personnal belief system threw as laws. Slowly but surly placing a larger gap between the haves and have nots. Point is here, the biggest problem I have seen in the adult industry is they don't want to orginize on issues like this. They sit back and complain and expect the larger compaines like Flints and Playboy and Penthouse to do all the fighting for them in court. But those guys can't win forever, and those guys are not in it to win for you or me. Now the public surly wont care either way if there is or is not porn on the net for 1 day. They will get it elsewhere like you said. But the news will care. There are crazy programs here at night that are just ex laywers and government officials who rant about whats going on in this country. Ones call "hard ball" and fact is they will talk about a whole internet porn shut down. But they will talk about why. They will examine the 2257 and rip is to shreds. Some will agree with it and some wont. But just having it on their programs is enough to get the government attention. And it's unconstiutional would place light on it that no judge would ever want to cross. When the public hears about something or the government thinks they know about something they are afriad to change it. Fact is they go voted in office with the law the way it stood they will not risk changing it during their political reign. Thats all this would do is get the word out.
I don't know about some people but I was never rasied to sit back and do nothing. I can't do it. What would one day hurt? Money? Sure but fact is if no one gets behind doing something with the current government there may be no more money from adult afterwards. Well im sure there will be but not in the little guys pocket. Anyway thats my feelings on this, You all can do what you want. Im putting up a page on the 15th.

Torn Rose · 2005-06-11, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by swedguy

2257 is important to us, but there's not one surfer who cares about it.

Tell that to the models who have obsessed stalkers

swedguy · 2005-06-11, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Torn

Tell that to the models who have obsessed stalkers

I don't think that closing down our sites for a day will make them less talkers or start an anti 2257 surfer movement

juggernaut, 99% is a tad optimistic

Bill · 2005-06-11, 12:59 PM

I liked the idea too.

I also doubt it would be real effective, but I think it might accomplish something.

And what the fuck, it's only one days income, it's not like it would cost me anything I can't easily afford to lose.

But, it's a little early yet, the right time for this would be in the fall.

Mr. Blue · 2005-06-11, 02:29 PM

I like the idea, but I instantly thought of a quote that grandmascrotum posted on the boards:

"I've heard it said that trying to organise adult webmasters is like herding cats."

It would be a great idea if we could get a little unity and move as a group in certain directions. Someone mentioned a webmaster guild, well, a Webmaster Union would probably work. Small membership fees, all webmasters pay into it, and collectively you have one voice that can argue things like 2257. We get our own lawyers, etc, etc.

Honestly, it would be hard to organize, but I think you would be amazed how easy it would be to get people to join and pay a reasonable yearly due. TGP's, LinkLists, etc, the two of the main arteries for traffic in the adult industry makes a small mandatory rule...have to be in the union to submit.

Also, with this Union you could plan actions like strikes, 404'ing, etc.

tickler · 2005-06-11, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

I forget who it was.... They stated it would be an interesting idea for everyone to take their sites down for one day due to this 2257 thing.

There was a post suggesting that everybody pop the same full page annoucement in one post. I added that maybe we should have somebody like Tam write it. The surfer would really have to read more than one line then.

Memory is a bit foggy, but, didn't everybody turn their pages black or something the last time this shit came up.

rollergirl · 2005-06-12, 10:13 AM

Organizing webmaster is like herding oportunisitc cats. You've got a sector of webmasters who'd sacrifice their day's earnings for the greater good, and a sector of webmasters who'd be glad to take those moneys. The best part is, you'd know just who renigged on the united front and you could post their NAME UP so people could boycott them..... for like a week.

Porn-hymers disease.. The disease that causes memory loss when doing business with people who've screwed over countless industry professionals. Symptons include but are not limited to :Inability to boycott the bottom feeders, people who turn your private info to people who are trying to sue everyone in the industry, people who join the 'other side of lawsuits' against our industry, people who are busted for shaving (read, stealing), people who don't pay models, people who don't mind putting model's in harms way... etc, etc...

No wonder we're easy pickens. We can't even keep our own house clean.

juggernaut · 2005-06-12, 12:58 PM

This would make an interesting radioshow topic or chat. We can talk all we want but until someone who has been in the business long enough wants to step to the front of this an take charge then thats all we are doing. I am willing to help with anything I can. Server space, time, what little $ I have. If something was formed it would be nice not only for a legal standpoint but also in general the adult industry in my opinion would be taken on a whole more seriously. Only thing that would be really hard is time. Time is a catch 22 here.

2005-06-10, 09:50 PM	#1
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Someone put a post about the 2257 but cant find it I forget who it was. I have an idea and dont want to say who as I dont want to be wrong with a finger pointing. They stated it would be an interesting idea for everyone to take their sites down for one day due to this 2257 thing. I think it was a really good idea. If you want to post who you are thats cool. But I was wondering if anyone gave any real thought to doing something like that?

2005-06-10, 10:22 PM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Linkster mentioned it, but I forget in which of the 325 "2257" threads he did so on __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-06-10, 10:26 PM	#3
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	2257 is for pussies. http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=20297 __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-06-10, 10:59 PM	#4
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	You are what you eat __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-06-11, 01:32 AM	#5
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well I liked the idea and would surly go for it. Not that my site does allot of business but heck i like my voice heard.

2005-06-11, 02:01 AM	#6
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	What difference would it make? If surfers doesn't get porn from my site that day, they will go elsewhere. They might read 2 lines of what I have to say regarding 2257 then get bored since they already have the dick in their hand and the wife will be home in 28 minutes and he need to bust a nut before that. 2257 is important to us, but there's not one surfer who cares about it.

2005-06-11, 12:59 PM	#10
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	I liked the idea too. I also doubt it would be real effective, but I think it might accomplish something. And what the fuck, it's only one days income, it's not like it would cost me anything I can't easily afford to lose. But, it's a little early yet, the right time for this would be in the fall.

2005-06-11, 02:29 PM	#11
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	I like the idea, but I instantly thought of a quote that grandmascrotum posted on the boards: "I've heard it said that trying to organise adult webmasters is like herding cats." It would be a great idea if we could get a little unity and move as a group in certain directions. Someone mentioned a webmaster guild, well, a Webmaster Union would probably work. Small membership fees, all webmasters pay into it, and collectively you have one voice that can argue things like 2257. We get our own lawyers, etc, etc. Honestly, it would be hard to organize, but I think you would be amazed how easy it would be to get people to join and pay a reasonable yearly due. TGP's, LinkLists, etc, the two of the main arteries for traffic in the adult industry makes a small mandatory rule...have to be in the union to submit. Also, with this Union you could plan actions like strikes, 404'ing, etc.

2005-06-12, 10:13 AM	#13
rollergirl I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 82	Organizing webmaster is like herding oportunisitc cats. You've got a sector of webmasters who'd sacrifice their day's earnings for the greater good, and a sector of webmasters who'd be glad to take those moneys. The best part is, you'd know just who renigged on the united front and you could post their NAME UP so people could boycott them..... for like a week. Porn-hymers disease.. The disease that causes memory loss when doing business with people who've screwed over countless industry professionals. Symptons include but are not limited to :Inability to boycott the bottom feeders, people who turn your private info to people who are trying to sue everyone in the industry, people who join the 'other side of lawsuits' against our industry, people who are busted for shaving (read, stealing), people who don't pay models, people who don't mind putting model's in harms way... etc, etc... No wonder we're easy pickens. We can't even keep our own house clean.

2005-06-12, 12:58 PM	#14
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	This would make an interesting radioshow topic or chat. We can talk all we want but until someone who has been in the business long enough wants to step to the front of this an take charge then thats all we are doing. I am willing to help with anything I can. Server space, time, what little $ I have. If something was formed it would be nice not only for a legal standpoint but also in general the adult industry in my opinion would be taken on a whole more seriously. Only thing that would be really hard is time. Time is a catch 22 here.