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Old 2005-06-11, 11:40 AM   #1
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Jay...hat's off to ya man

It's about time someone with the resources to fight this thing stepped up! We all know these regs are nothing more than a feeble attempt at re-writing case law and making life a living hell for US adult webmasters.

The regs do absolutely nothing to inhibit or curb cp on the internet. The scum that deal in that crap won't be posting 2257 info because there isn't any to post. They will continue to operate covertly as they always have.

Meantime, honest webmasters are pulling down years worth of work. Removing banners from thousands of pages...basically jumping through hoops in an attempt to stay out of jail.

IF we bend over and attempt to comply with these draconian regs...what's next??? When do GW, Alberto and the DOJ decide that plain ol intercourse is obscene? Blowjobs? Cumshots? ANY kind of hardcore???

Are we US webmasters going to be reduced to promoting bikini sites...or simply put our of business period? Yes, I'm sure GW, Alberto and the DOJ would love to see us all shut down...

But, now that someone with deep pockets has stepped up...wouldn't you rather aide in the fight instead of bending over and taking it up the ass???

I don't have deep pockets...wish the fuck I did...I'd be right there with Jay. As it is, I'm hoping there are other deep pockets in this with him.

But, I am a paid member of the FSC...they are our voice in this...and I support them. Folks, if you can...THIS is the time to support the FSC. Personally, I want that organization to be very fuckin healthy financially. We never know when that voice is going to be needed.
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Old 2005-06-11, 05:58 PM   #2
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Jay...hat's off to ya man

It's about time someone with the resources to fight this thing stepped up! We all know these regs are nothing more than a feeble attempt at re-writing case law and making life a living hell for US adult webmasters.

The regs do absolutely nothing to inhibit or curb cp on the internet. The scum that deal in that crap won't be posting 2257 info because there isn't any to post. They will continue to operate covertly as they always have.

Meantime, honest webmasters are pulling down years worth of work. Removing banners from thousands of pages...basically jumping through hoops in an attempt to stay out of jail.

IF we bend over and attempt to comply with these draconian regs...what's next??? When do GW, Alberto and the DOJ decide that plain ol intercourse is obscene? Blowjobs? Cumshots? ANY kind of hardcore???

Are we US webmasters going to be reduced to promoting bikini sites...or simply put our of business period? Yes, I'm sure GW, Alberto and the DOJ would love to see us all shut down...

But, now that someone with deep pockets has stepped up...wouldn't you rather aide in the fight instead of bending over and taking it up the ass???

I don't have deep pockets...wish the fuck I did...I'd be right there with Jay. As it is, I'm hoping there are other deep pockets in this with him.

But, I am a paid member of the FSC...they are our voice in this...and I support them. Folks, if you can...THIS is the time to support the FSC. Personally, I want that organization to be very fuckin healthy financially. We never know when that voice is going to be needed.
Yeah, it too bad an important post like this gets moved to the spam. There is more politics on GG&J than in Washington - lol.
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Old 2005-06-11, 08:34 PM   #3
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Yeah, it too bad an important post like this gets moved to the spam. There is more politics on GG&J than in Washington - lol.
No kidding? And here I was thinking what a gutless move on the part of OC to post it in spam.
You telling me GG&J moved you here?
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Old 2005-06-11, 09:43 PM   #4
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Yea...it is too bad Jay. Whatever the history is there...it's unfortunate that it affected this particular post.

However, I think a lot of board members use the new posts button instead of reading forum by forum. Think there was a poll on that not too long ago.

Yep TB, it probably did get moved. There is some history there...I have no idea what it is though...doesn't really matter in this instance.

Guess the part that surprises me is this thread is just sitting here.

Noticed the same on another board. I guess as much as people complain about these regs...they'd really rather jump through hoops to comply. And hope like hell GW/Alberto/DOJ don't eventually decide our entire fuckin business is obscene.

We still have a pretty good shot as stopping this thing in its fucking tracks! The FSC has high powered lawyers...some of the best in the biz.

Personally, I can't afford a high end attorney. Called one a week or so ago...fucker wanted a $5k retainer just for the priviledge of being able to call him IF I need him.

But, I sent my $300 to the FSC in a heartbeat. No, I can't afford a lawyer. No, the FSC won't defend me IF I need one. But, the FSC is on the front lines of this thing...they're the ones trying to stop it. If all goes as it should, I won't need a fucking lawyer.

And that's the part that gets me. I really thought more people in the biz would want to support the FSC in this fight. Instead of giving in...rolling over...and complying with these draconian rules that have already been shot down once.
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Yeah, it too bad an important post like this gets moved to the spam. There is more politics on GG&J than in Washington - lol.
You run a Link List & we run the board the same way - you don't like the rules of a Link List, then don't submit to it.

You don't like the rules of the board? Don't post.
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Old 2005-06-12, 10:35 PM   #6
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You run a Link List & we run the board the same way - you don't like the rules of a Link List, then don't submit to it.

You don't like the rules of the board? Don't post.
Sorry, I thought the post had some merit - seeing as it was the first to actually have a written statement from a top 2257 lawyer.

I guess you board members can keep checking the spam for the good stuff.
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Old 2005-06-13, 09:16 AM   #7
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Sorry, I thought the post had some merit - seeing as it was the first to actually have a written statement from a top 2257 lawyer.

I guess you board members can keep checking the spam for the good stuff.
You know what your "announcement" is? It's nothing more than an inner-office memo, because it really doesn't effect anyone other than employees of OC Cash.

You might be able to make the argument that it effects your affiliates, but then again, if you really want to let them know about things at OC Cash, you have a program that emails everyone of them with the click of a button. (and besides, affiliates that are going to follow 2257 will probably pull the content anyway & those that aren't going to follow it will probably leave it up, so there's no big news there)

I salute you for fighting it & wish you the best of luck, but you're fucked in the head if you think that I'm going to let every sponsor out there post their 2257 statement on the main board, regardless of what their stance it.

Like I said, you don't like the rules of the board, then don't post.

I am really fucking sick of people (99.4% of which run affiliate programs) telling Jim & I how to run OUR FUCKING BOARD.

Advertisers pay for the use of the board for their announcements & the rest get moved here - that's how this board works & that's how it will always work.

I'll make the decision easy for you - I'm gonna close your thread in the Link List forum because forbid you try & rub that in our face again.

Besides - isn't Wasted Webmasters you "official" home now?
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Old 2005-06-13, 09:54 AM   #8
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You know what your "announcement" is? It's nothing more than an inner-office memo, because it really doesn't effect anyone other than employees of OC Cash.


Besides - isn't Wasted Webmasters you "official" home now?
LOL - you just got down there. No need for hostilities.

Dude its all good...in the next few days all of you will be able to breathe easier and stop stressing.

That was all I meant to convey.

2257 is a big bad boogie man that is just here to scare you and shake you up, but it never will amount to shit.

I know I have been very doom-and-gloom about most of this shit, so me to go in reverse of all of that does say something -- that's all - I just thought the people may enjoy a bit of hope.
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