Do you negotiate price?

[Alphawolf]

Sure...I wouldn't argue popcorn or coffee.

Vehicles should always be about $500 or so below invoice unless it's a limited production model or you live in an area that has very few dealers. But if you were working on 2 dealers and they didn't do it- not much choice.

$20 off a bike after traveling around...yeah- that's a tad extreme.

You need to pick your battles so that they aren't more effort than the money off is worth it.