Not a NaughtyAmerica Gold Affiliate? You're Fucked!

ArtWilliams · 2005-06-15, 08:43 PM

"You are hereby noticed that due to the stringent requirements of the new regulations going into effect on June 23rd, anyone who is not a “Gold Affiliate” and is promoting our sites that contain our explicit content will have their account closed."

Got that message today. Guess 2257 has thrown a curve into their business plan and that of many webmasters selling for them.

---Art

Greenguy · 2005-06-15, 08:52 PM

50 other programs have said the same thing over the last week or so - this needed a thread all it's own?

Tommy · 2005-06-15, 09:01 PM

50 other programs said they would close your account if your still using their content ??

to me that seems like a big fuck you to their standard affiliates
its like everyone doesnt have enough work to do and enough worrys with the 2257

now add getting your account shut off

it seems very arrogant doesnt it ?

I am glad I dont premote them

babymaker · 2005-06-15, 09:08 PM

who said this, the 50 others, i don't use naughty america?? never even heard of them so could care less?? anyone have a list of the 50 others?? maybe we should blacklist their asses if that is the way they plan on handling things?? i am sure that all webmasters in their program as a whole send a fucking hell of a lot more traffic and money their way than a few top of free porn people that have been around since 1995?? WTF

Greenguy · 2005-06-15, 09:16 PM

Well, not 50 - but a lot of programs are no longer allowing the use of the content that they did in the past & if you don't have permission to use the content, then you're breaking their TOS, not to mention copyright laws.

ArtWilliams · 2005-06-15, 09:29 PM

I found it rather abrupt. Like being with a company for a while and they say, "We don't need you any more. Now get your sorry ass off off our property"! Maybe I am too sensitive.

---art

Tommy · 2005-06-15, 09:35 PM

maybe you feel rejected because your not in with the gold guys

wait a minute....are you saying

you are a Pornographer and you feel that you are too sensitive

Useless · 2005-06-15, 10:15 PM

I was on strike once and the CEO was quoted with saying, "Just go back to work. You're lucky to have a job". We were all abruptly replaced. (which reminds me - Ronald Reagan was a cocksucker and I'm glad he died slowly) My point being - those who hold the cash typically don't give 2 shits about who makes the cash for them. We are all finding out exactly how expendable we are. I'm assuming that Naughty America (stupid name) intends on giving ids and releases to their best promoters, but have smartly decided not to give them out to just anyone who signs up. It sucks to be a small webmaster. I'm only 5'6". Imagine how I must feel.

Smutferret · 2005-06-15, 11:11 PM

What the hell, so even if you don't use their content to promote their sites you're done? What about smaller or fake TGP's using their FHG's?

I could understand if they decided to just let certain webmasters (ones they know or trust) use their content but damn, there are many ways to promote a sponsor without using their free content.

This is all becoming a HUGE drag!

Regards,
SF

tickler · 2005-06-16, 12:23 AM

Especially foreign WMs being forced to pull stuff sucks, because of some dumb US regulation. As it comes down, it will be replaced with foreign sponsors that don't mind affilates promoting their sites with hardcore.

guitar riff · 2005-06-16, 12:40 AM

That gives the foreign WM's the Idea just how much you are fucked with this 2257 deal also

Mr. Blue · 2005-06-16, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I'm only 5'6". Imagine how I must feel.

I would imagine you feel short...am I right?

Mr. Blue · 2005-06-16, 01:24 AM

btw, a lot of programs are cutting out the free content, but they're not cutting off their affiliates. That's where this is slightly different...it sucks, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Jaden · 2005-06-16, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tickler

Especially foreign WMs being forced to pull stuff sucks, because of some dumb US regulation. As it comes down, it will be replaced with foreign sponsors that don't mind affilates promoting their sites with hardcore.

And I am sooooo looking forward to the inundation of even more family porn, forced, mature vs. extremely young looking, wedding porn, and the like.....Access to crap like that is so much "healthier" and better for future generations to be exposed to....

mist · 2005-06-16, 05:29 AM

That's the beauty with free content, no control, no ownership and no documents, use it and your life gets a bit more exciting...

tickler · 2005-06-16, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaden

And I am sooooo looking forward to the inundation of even more family porn, forced, mature vs. extremely young looking, wedding porn, and the like.....Access to crap like that is so much "healthier" and better for future generations to be exposed to....

Hell, I don't even do that shit.

I don't even use much sponsor free content except a little for exclusive sites like reality and amateurs. A ton of banners and FPAs with paid content though.

But, going and pulling stuff and throwing away traffic because of some redneck law in a different country get me steamed.

I don't need 2257 crap for the their content or banners, so why force me to remove it?

Stouch · 2005-06-16, 07:03 AM

Can I just point out that although this message is true, there are further paragraphs which basically state that if you want to be considered a gold partner then contact Danielle who will see what she can do.

I suspect they are doing this to work more with affiliates that they feel comfortable with sending out model ID's to. Generally that would be affiliates that have a track record. If you dont have a track record then hit them up and discuss it with them.

Alternatively they could just pull everything and say fuck it to everyone like other sponsors have, at least this way they are trying to make the best of a bad situation. IMO all the foot stomping and keyboard pounding saying blacklist this and dump that based on half a message is wrong. Im sure I will get flamed for that but thats how I feel.

Stouch · 2005-06-16, 07:04 AM

Oh and for the record I dont work for them but they are one of my best sponsors and I think the way they have left the door open should be applauded.

Stouch · 2005-06-16, 07:08 AM

In fact Im going to copy and paste the paragraph:

The first is the Gold Affiliate level. These affiliates will be provided with necessary tools to continue promoting our sites using explicit content. We will have further details furnished via phone or email by an account representative. Gold affiliates were selected based on our understanding of their level of commitment and previous working relationship with the company. If you have not been contacted and wish to be considered for the Gold Affiliate program, please contact Danielle with the information below:

Greenguy · 2005-06-16, 08:07 AM

Yeah - have any of the complainers bothered to check & see if they are gold?

This isn't that hard of a concept to follow - they are only allowing their content to be used by webmasters that they approve (because of the 2257 docs they'll have to supply) It has nothing to do with any hosted galleries that they have or text links that you use to promote them - you just have to have permission to use their free content now - no permission means your account is canceled.

(I do promote Naughty America but I have no real ties to them & this is all just honest opinion)

Useless · 2005-06-16, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

I would imagine you feel short...am I right?

Exactly. In some company I feel exceedingly short.

You know what I'd like to see? Anyone? No? Well, I don't want the documentation for any sponsor's models. I just want to be allowed to run the risk if I so choose and be allowed to promote them properly. If you're a sponsor who has compliant content, just allow me to use it. You keep the damn ids. I can fully understand why you'd want your non-compliant content pulled. Cause if I get caught using it I'm going to point the finger at you and Gonzalez will be at your door next. But if it's compliant, no worries, right?

Cleo · 2005-06-16, 09:06 AM

Think of all the BW you will save on banners!

Mr. Blue · 2005-06-16, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Exactly. In some company I feel exceedingly short.

You know what I'd like to see? Anyone? No? Well, I don't want the documentation for any sponsor's models. I just want to be allowed to run the risk if I so choose and be allowed to promote them properly. If you're a sponsor who has compliant content, just allow me to use it. You keep the damn ids. I can fully understand why you'd want your non-compliant content pulled. Cause if I get caught using it I'm going to point the finger at you and Gonzalez will be at your door next. But if it's compliant, no worries, right?

You're like a Napolean of the web...Just stay away from Russian sponsors / content and you can feasible succeed where the real Napolean failed

Mr. Blue · 2005-06-16, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

Think of all the BW you will save on banners!

LOL

2msacras · 2005-06-16, 10:18 AM

Cleo that's an awesome banner

2005-06-15, 08:43 PM	#1
ArtWilliams You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6,244	Not a NaughtyAmerica Gold Affiliate? You're Fucked! "You are hereby noticed that due to the stringent requirements of the new regulations going into effect on June 23rd, anyone who is not a “Gold Affiliate” and is promoting our sites that contain our explicit content will have their account closed." Got that message today. Guess 2257 has thrown a curve into their business plan and that of many webmasters selling for them. ---Art

2005-06-15, 08:52 PM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	50 other programs have said the same thing over the last week or so - this needed a thread all it's own? __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-06-15, 09:01 PM	#3
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	50 other programs said they would close your account if your still using their content ?? to me that seems like a big fuck you to their standard affiliates its like everyone doesnt have enough work to do and enough worrys with the 2257 now add getting your account shut off it seems very arrogant doesnt it ? I am glad I dont premote them __________________ Accepting New partners

2005-06-15, 09:08 PM	#4
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	who said this, the 50 others, i don't use naughty america?? never even heard of them so could care less?? anyone have a list of the 50 others?? maybe we should blacklist their asses if that is the way they plan on handling things?? i am sure that all webmasters in their program as a whole send a fucking hell of a lot more traffic and money their way than a few top of free porn people that have been around since 1995?? WTF __________________ *Get ElevatedX W/Hosting 99MO!*

2005-06-15, 09:16 PM	#5
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Well, not 50 - but a lot of programs are no longer allowing the use of the content that they did in the past & if you don't have permission to use the content, then you're breaking their TOS, not to mention copyright laws. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-06-15, 09:29 PM	#6
ArtWilliams You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6,244	I found it rather abrupt. Like being with a company for a while and they say, "We don't need you any more. Now get your sorry ass off off our property"! Maybe I am too sensitive. ---art

2005-06-15, 09:35 PM	#7
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	maybe you feel rejected because your not in with the gold guys wait a minute....are you saying you are a Pornographer and you feel that you are too sensitive __________________ Accepting New partners

2005-06-15, 10:15 PM	#8
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	I was on strike once and the CEO was quoted with saying, "Just go back to work. You're lucky to have a job". We were all abruptly replaced. (which reminds me - Ronald Reagan was a cocksucker and I'm glad he died slowly) My point being - those who hold the cash typically don't give 2 shits about who makes the cash for them. We are all finding out exactly how expendable we are. I'm assuming that Naughty America (stupid name) intends on giving ids and releases to their best promoters, but have smartly decided not to give them out to just anyone who signs up. It sucks to be a small webmaster. I'm only 5'6". Imagine how I must feel. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-06-15, 11:11 PM	#9
Smutferret No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MA, USA Posts: 231	What the hell, so even if you don't use their content to promote their sites you're done? What about smaller or fake TGP's using their FHG's? I could understand if they decided to just let certain webmasters (ones they know or trust) use their content but damn, there are many ways to promote a sponsor without using their free content. This is all becoming a HUGE drag! Regards, SF __________________ Pornication Web Cams TGPX by JMB Software

2005-06-16, 12:23 AM	#10
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	Especially foreign WMs being forced to pull stuff sucks, because of some dumb US regulation. As it comes down, it will be replaced with foreign sponsors that don't mind affilates promoting their sites with hardcore. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2005-06-16, 12:40 AM	#11
guitar riff Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In a van Down by the river. Posts: 216	That gives the foreign WM's the Idea just how much you are fucked with this 2257 deal also __________________ Join The Rage!!!

2005-06-16, 01:24 AM	#13
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	btw, a lot of programs are cutting out the free content, but they're not cutting off their affiliates. That's where this is slightly different...it sucks, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

2005-06-16, 05:29 AM	#15
mist Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: EU Posts: 214	That's the beauty with free content, no control, no ownership and no documents, use it and your life gets a bit more exciting...

2005-06-16, 07:03 AM	#17
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	Can I just point out that although this message is true, there are further paragraphs which basically state that if you want to be considered a gold partner then contact Danielle who will see what she can do. I suspect they are doing this to work more with affiliates that they feel comfortable with sending out model ID's to. Generally that would be affiliates that have a track record. If you dont have a track record then hit them up and discuss it with them. Alternatively they could just pull everything and say fuck it to everyone like other sponsors have, at least this way they are trying to make the best of a bad situation. IMO all the foot stomping and keyboard pounding saying blacklist this and dump that based on half a message is wrong. Im sure I will get flamed for that but thats how I feel. __________________ Nowt here

2005-06-16, 07:04 AM	#18
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	Oh and for the record I dont work for them but they are one of my best sponsors and I think the way they have left the door open should be applauded. __________________ Nowt here

2005-06-16, 07:08 AM	#19
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	In fact Im going to copy and paste the paragraph: The first is the Gold Affiliate level. These affiliates will be provided with necessary tools to continue promoting our sites using explicit content. We will have further details furnished via phone or email by an account representative. Gold affiliates were selected based on our understanding of their level of commitment and previous working relationship with the company. If you have not been contacted and wish to be considered for the Gold Affiliate program, please contact Danielle with the information below: __________________ Nowt here

2005-06-16, 08:07 AM	#20
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Yeah - have any of the complainers bothered to check & see if they are gold? This isn't that hard of a concept to follow - they are only allowing their content to be used by webmasters that they approve (because of the 2257 docs they'll have to supply) It has nothing to do with any hosted galleries that they have or text links that you use to promote them - you just have to have permission to use their free content now - no permission means your account is canceled. (I do promote Naughty America but I have no real ties to them & this is all just honest opinion) __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-06-16, 10:18 AM	#25
2msacras The sun? That's the hottest place on Earth Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 394	Cleo that's an awesome banner