2257 - Im about to be real unpopular!

juggernaut · 2005-06-23, 11:04 PM

Well I went a joined today. After I read their laywer state that he could only recommend strongly that people join the FSC I figured something was up. I don't agree with what the government is doing. I do agree with Linkster in that there has to be someone willing to stand up and fight the fight united. If it means me sending them $300 bucks so I can at least give this business all I got and try to make something work while they fight in court, then its cheap to the cost. I joined for selfish reasons but that is all I can join for. If I wanted to be involved with them for any other reason I would just work for them for free. I stream video. I can not record the stream and from what I read can still be searched. Unless that has changed in the last 3 hours I was no home. The only thing is in order for them to search me they have to go threw the FSC first. I look at it kind of like having laywer or bodyguard who will try to keep people away from me so I can work. Just my thoughts. Good read Link...

koolkat · 2005-06-23, 11:18 PM

I understand where you are coming from Linkster, and I somewhat understand the FSC's position, but when you (the FSC) make claims about the entire adult industry, then you should certainly include the entire adult industry in you barganing agreements.

I was seriously considering joining up until today because I understand lawyers don't work for free. My wife and I had already talked about it, and were ready to add our site, but after seeing how they handled the situation, and are handling it after the situation (hurry up and join before it is too late), that was the straw which broke the camel's back! I also think their fees are a little excessive considering that there are a lot of webmaster which run multiple sites. I for one would have about $2400 in membership fees just to be covered by their deal. To be honest... on most of the sites I don't make shit off of, so technically, I am promoting most of their content for free

EmporerEJ · 2005-06-23, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by koolkat

I understand where you are coming from Linkster, and I somewhat understand the FSC's position, but when you (the FSC) make claims about the entire adult industry, then you should certainly include the entire adult industry in you barganing agreements.

I was seriously considering joining up until today because I understand lawyers don't work for free. My wife and I had already talked about it, and were ready to add our site, but after seeing how they handled the situation, and are handling it after the situation (hurry up and join before it is too late), that was the straw which broke the camel's back! I also think their fees are a little excessive considering that there are a lot of webmaster which run multiple sites. I for one would have about $2400 in membership fees just to be covered by their deal. To be honest... on most of the sites I don't make shit off of, so technically, I am promoting most of their content for free

Yes, the fee structure is a bit draconian.

MrYum · 2005-06-24, 12:00 AM

Linkster...I had promised myself to stay out of these 2257 threads for a multitude of reasons. But, your post demanded a response...more and more repect for you every day man

I really think you hit all the salient points...especially in that the FSC is a trade organization...not necessarily a free speech organization. AND they are the ones stepping up and fighting. That fight takes money...this time...and the NEXT time. This is our opportunity to make that trade organization stronger for future battles as well...and we all know there will be future battles.

On the subject of fees, yes their fee structure is a freakin mess...which I've told them on the phone. However, IF you call them and explain what your business is...in most cases, you DO NOT have to pay $300 per site. I paid the $300 and was later told that it was too much...even though I own 60+ domains. The FSC offered to refund $200 of my membership fees...I told them to keep the money to support the cause.

Look, I know a lot of folks are very upset about this new wrinkle. But the FSC is an established organization that has retained some of the hot shot attorneys in our field. And they are stepping up to the plate to fight the fight. The more members they have...the more clout they have...the more credibilty they have and the stronger they are.

Honestly, I do wish the deal had covered everyone. While I rather doubt the DOJ will go after anyone while this is brewing...I still hope the FSC's phones are ringing off the fuckin hook. I for one want that organization to be as strong and solvent as possible.

Okay...that's my little piece...time to get out of these threads again...

Linkster · 2005-06-24, 01:16 AM

KoolKat - i think there is a big misunderstanding (mostly brought on my the webpage forms from the FSC) generated that I am just starting o understand now - I had even posted on another board that with the sites I have out there, my fee to join would be close to $540,000 - however I was told by many people who called and asked abou the per-site deal on the form and they were all told the same thing - it could be as little as $100 for your whole stable of sites - or as much as $300 Total - not per site - that per-site price is a evidently the old forms makers misunderstanding of the biz showing though

As far as my first post - just so that there isnt a misunderstanding - I have (after I made that post) faxed in my application and just kinda sitting back reflecting on a lot of things for the rest of the night - think I'll take a break from using my brain and watch some old Law and Order re-runs LOL

2005-06-23, 11:18 PM	#2
koolkat Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SC Posts: 401	I understand where you are coming from Linkster, and I somewhat understand the FSC's position, but when you (the FSC) make claims about the entire adult industry, then you should certainly include the entire adult industry in you barganing agreements. I was seriously considering joining up until today because I understand lawyers don't work for free. My wife and I had already talked about it, and were ready to add our site, but after seeing how they handled the situation, and are handling it after the situation (hurry up and join before it is too late), that was the straw which broke the camel's back! I also think their fees are a little excessive considering that there are a lot of webmaster which run multiple sites. I for one would have about $2400 in membership fees just to be covered by their deal. To be honest... on most of the sites I don't make shit off of, so technically, I am promoting most of their content for free __________________ Harry Beaver's Lodge

2005-06-24, 12:00 AM	#4
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Linkster...I had promised myself to stay out of these 2257 threads for a multitude of reasons. But, your post demanded a response...more and more repect for you every day man I really think you hit all the salient points...especially in that the FSC is a trade organization...not necessarily a free speech organization. AND they are the ones stepping up and fighting. That fight takes money...this time...and the NEXT time. This is our opportunity to make that trade organization stronger for future battles as well...and we all know there will be future battles. On the subject of fees, yes their fee structure is a freakin mess...which I've told them on the phone. However, IF you call them and explain what your business is...in most cases, you DO NOT have to pay $300 per site. I paid the $300 and was later told that it was too much...even though I own 60+ domains. The FSC offered to refund $200 of my membership fees...I told them to keep the money to support the cause. Look, I know a lot of folks are very upset about this new wrinkle. But the FSC is an established organization that has retained some of the hot shot attorneys in our field. And they are stepping up to the plate to fight the fight. The more members they have...the more clout they have...the more credibilty they have and the stronger they are. Honestly, I do wish the deal had covered everyone. While I rather doubt the DOJ will go after anyone while this is brewing...I still hope the FSC's phones are ringing off the fuckin hook. I for one want that organization to be as strong and solvent as possible. Okay...that's my little piece...time to get out of these threads again... __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2005-06-24, 01:16 AM	#5
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	KoolKat - i think there is a big misunderstanding (mostly brought on my the webpage forms from the FSC) generated that I am just starting o understand now - I had even posted on another board that with the sites I have out there, my fee to join would be close to $540,000 - however I was told by many people who called and asked abou the per-site deal on the form and they were all told the same thing - it could be as little as $100 for your whole stable of sites - or as much as $300 Total - not per site - that per-site price is a evidently the old forms makers misunderstanding of the biz showing though As far as my first post - just so that there isnt a misunderstanding - I have (after I made that post) faxed in my application and just kinda sitting back reflecting on a lot of things for the rest of the night - think I'll take a break from using my brain and watch some old Law and Order re-runs LOL __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-06-23, 11:04 PM	#1
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well I went a joined today. After I read their laywer state that he could only recommend strongly that people join the FSC I figured something was up. I don't agree with what the government is doing. I do agree with Linkster in that there has to be someone willing to stand up and fight the fight united. If it means me sending them $300 bucks so I can at least give this business all I got and try to make something work while they fight in court, then its cheap to the cost. I joined for selfish reasons but that is all I can join for. If I wanted to be involved with them for any other reason I would just work for them for free. I stream video. I can not record the stream and from what I read can still be searched. Unless that has changed in the last 3 hours I was no home. The only thing is in order for them to search me they have to go threw the FSC first. I look at it kind of like having laywer or bodyguard who will try to keep people away from me so I can work. Just my thoughts. Good read Link...