Anybody remember this thread?

susanna · 2005-08-16, 10:33 PM

Ahhh but we have been able to agree on the words "young" "virgin" and anything with kids in it.

99% of the time we can also agree that rape is not acceptable.

The issue is whether the site in question is a rape site or not. It has nothing to do with imposing anyones ethics or ideas on others. It has nothing to do with wanting everyone to boycott the sponsor or all of the other sites.

It has everything to do with this one site crossing the line into something that not one person here agrees should be good for our industry.

No one pays my bills either but like it or not every other business out there has the potential to destroy my income in adult by making poor judgements. We stampede over someone that uses kids keywords (especially keys that attract kids that are not porn related etc) What is the difference with a site that pretends its not about rape and non-consentual sex?

Not sure what part of non-consentual you are not understanding Wenchy.

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Originally Posted by Wenchy

Okay, so I've read through this thread (and I think a couple of others that were related) and I've come up with the following:

1. It is not my place to decide what is ethical, moral, or proper for others. IMO, what some are labeling "unethical" should more correctly be termed "personally distasteful". I wasn't aware that the porn industry had developed a code of ethics... why didn't I get that memo, UW?... and even if one did exist, it certainly wouldn't be my job to enforce it. Those who support RageCash have their very good reasons for doing so, and those who don't... well, ditto. Add to the mix the issues of individual comfort zones and numerous unique business models, and the plethora of differing opinions shouldn't be suprising to anyone.

2. Do I think using the word "assault" in a massively-publicized porn site is a good idea? Do I think promoting a site by even remotely insinuating rape scenarios is a good idea? Do I think the sponsor in question would stand a snowball's chance in hell of standing up to legal and/or governmental scrutiny of their site? Not in the current political climate, no. But guess what... I don't have to pay their lawyers, so it's really none of my damned business.

3. I personally don't promote "vanilla" sites at all... teen, amateur, Asian... BOOOORING! That having been said, if I refused to use a sponsor simply because I possess that particular OPINION (keeping in mind that it is my right to run my business the way I see fit!), I'd have no one to promote at all, as I have yet to come across a sponsor who isn't busting at the seams with "vanilla"! I don't think it's right or fair to judge a sponsor simply by the content of one site, especially if they have others that really appeal to you or fit into your business model. Whatever each of us decides to to, it is a PERSONAL CHOICE, and there's really no logical reason to tell anyone else about it... all that does is put you in the unpleasant position of having to justify your reasoning and/or rationale.

4. I am comfortable with the idea that GG and Jim had their reasons for accepting RageCash as a board sponsor. Whether or not I agree with those reasons or their decision is a moot point... I don't pay their bills either. Oh yeah... and it's none of my damned business.

5. I've seen enough righteous indignation in this thread alone to last me a lifetime, but it's all based on emotion, personal opinion, and the above-mentioned comfort zones. To each his own, live and let live, blah blah blah. It's not like we as an industry have ever been able to agree on anything else... why should we be expected to start now?

NOTE: The fact that I did not indicate one way or the other my feelings regarding RageCash or their site was deliberate and I won't be elaborating on it further... see, you don't pay MY bills and it's none of your damned business!

Halfdeck · 2005-08-17, 01:27 AM

If this was a simple moral question of whether or not I should promote a rape site, the answer is clearly and easily no. But for many of us, that's not really the question. We're asking ourselves how much money will Rage Cash make me and is there anything to be gained by second-guessing other people's business decisions.

It's like asking people whether you should take a wallet someone else dropped stuffed with hundred dollar bills or report it lost to the cops. If you ask a beggar he'll tell you without hesitation you'll be crazy not to keep the money. If you ask a rich guy, he might tell you he won't even bother bending over to pick it off the ground.

As for me, I'll pass on Rage Cash. I have over 260 sponsors I'm signed up with and I have enough work as it is trying to promote just a handful of them.

2005-08-17, 01:27 AM	#2
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	If this was a simple moral question of whether or not I should promote a rape site, the answer is clearly and easily no. But for many of us, that's not really the question. We're asking ourselves how much money will Rage Cash make me and is there anything to be gained by second-guessing other people's business decisions. It's like asking people whether you should take a wallet someone else dropped stuffed with hundred dollar bills or report it lost to the cops. If you ask a beggar he'll tell you without hesitation you'll be crazy not to keep the money. If you ask a rich guy, he might tell you he won't even bother bending over to pick it off the ground. As for me, I'll pass on Rage Cash. I have over 260 sponsors I'm signed up with and I have enough work as it is trying to promote just a handful of them. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.