Somnophilia definition

[Extreme John]

For the most part I find myself staying away from these conversations, but Jim's post earlier and this post now, along with what Tommy said have made me really think of a few things.

When a movie comes out in movie Theatres and there is a rape scene, do CC Companies not process Debit card transactions for that Movie and threaten to fine the theatre's doing so? Im going to say no way in hell. If you dont want to see it, than you simply dont go, I doubt anyone jumps on a message board and posts about how the movie is destroying society. Same goes for the Sopranos and another HBO show Oz as mentioned by Tommy, it's simple if you don't like it you don;t watch it. Another example is the movie "American History X", an excellent movie in it's time and still a sought after movie today..... There's a guy that blatantly gets raped in that film, no one was running around with signs than, and Visa never told Blockbuster or any Movie Theatre they couldnt process sales for the movie or sell the VHS or DVD tapes. Hell even Wal-Mart sells it. Whats this have to do with anything? It just goes to show how the Online Adult Entertainment Industry is a constant target already, having people in the industry fighting those willing to express their fantasies or desires and bringing those very things to the Adult Online Community is kinda of kicking the person willing to stand for the very things or very thing you make money from.

Moving on to what Jim said earlier, he's right, and 6 years of being in this industry, more shit comes and goes than in any other business I have ever been in, if I were to stand around and fight every single thing I hate or that pisses me off I wouldnt get anything done, and in 6 yars time I have a strong belief that it's not my job to police the industry. Teens were an issue, pissing was an issue, beast shit was an issue, scat was an issue, Bizarre was an issue and the list goes on and on. Some of those things make me ill, some of those things I dont give a damn about, regardless I dont stand on the corner screaming about any of them.

Moving on to the Definition above, thats great to know. Ill also say that just like the definition for OCD, there's many variations to it. Fact is that many men like the idea of waking their wife and or girlfriend to have sex with them in the middle of the night, fact also is many men really could care less if she wakes up during it or not. Another fact is, many Woman like the idea of someone waking them up in the middle of the night to have sex with them, another fact is many woman like the idea of their husband getting excited about them in the middle of the night and being excited enough to have sex with them while they arent awake. (Trust me these variations go on and on). Based on that Definition above, I have a problem and I should be locked up because Im the next big Rapist.... If you knew me nothing could be further from the truth, because only one thing sickens me more than rape and that Child Rapists/Killers/Predators, however I also love the idea of waking my wife up in the middle of the night, I also couldnt care less if she passed out in the middle of it after a night of drinking, I also couldnt care less if I was in the mood, she fell asleep early and I did what I wanted to do and she didnt wake up during it. She doesnt care either. This hardly makes me someone thats into Rape, this hardly makes me a sick son of a bitch. Just like everyone else on this planet, I have fantasies, yours might be feet, mine might be girls with big noses, regardless of what it is, it's our choice to not like it, or to like it, but it's not our job to police the industry on these matters.

In closing I think it's safe to say that Rage Cash spent a good ammount of money on advertising here as well as other places, I think its safe to say that in the same fashion companies like Extreme Paychecks, ARS, Nasty Dollars, and Rage Cash probably have plenty of Lawyers that give thier views on the legalities, and risks of the sites in their portfolios, in addition to that from experience I can tell you that getting any site approved by 3rd party processors is already hard, sites that are risky in nature get torn apart 100x over by 3rd party billers and the C/C companies, if the shit makes it far enough past them, than after that anyone else's opinion doesnt really matter.

Sorry for the long ass response, but it seems I have read about 400 million comments on this stuff, and it reminds me of when we released Anal Destruction years ago, people were all hell bent because it showed the girls less than enjoying their experience, in the end that was all well and good but over 40% of the sites members were woman, because they could relate to that.

[susanna]

Originally Posted by Extreme John

It just goes to show how the Online Adult Entertainment Industry is a constant target already, having people in the industry fighting those willing to express their fantasies or desires and bringing those very things to the Adult Online Community is kinda of kicking the person willing to stand for the very things or very thing you make money from.

Moving on to what Jim said earlier, he's right, and 6 years of being in this industry, more shit comes and goes than in any other business I have ever been in, if I were to stand around and fight every single thing I hate or that pisses me off I wouldnt get anything done, and in 6 yars time I have a strong belief that it's not my job to police the industry.

Moving on to the Definition above, thats great to know. Ill also say that just like the definition for OCD, there's many variations to it. Fact is that many men like the idea of waking their wife and or girlfriend to have sex with them in the middle of the night, fact also is many men really could care less if she wakes up during it or not. Another fact is, many Woman like the idea of someone waking them up in the middle of the night to have sex with them, another fact is many woman like the idea of their husband getting excited about them in the middle of the night and being excited enough to have sex with them while they arent awake. (Trust me these variations go on and on). Based on that Definition above, I have a problem and I should be locked up because Im the next big Rapist.... If you knew me nothing could be further from the truth, because only one thing sickens me more than rape and that Child Rapists/Killers/Predators, however I also love the idea of waking my wife up in the middle of the night, I also couldnt care less if she passed out in the middle of it after a night of drinking, I also couldnt care less if I was in the mood, she fell asleep early and I did what I wanted to do and she didnt wake up during it. She doesnt care either. This hardly makes me someone thats into Rape, this hardly makes me a sick son of a bitch. Just like everyone else on this planet, I have fantasies, yours might be feet, mine might be girls with big noses, regardless of what it is, it's our choice to not like it, or to like it, but it's not our job to police the industry on these matters.

Ahh John speaks....thank you. I heard every one of your points but of course I still disagree. I have quoted only the parts I wish to comment on.

Firstly, I also stand for the things that make me money. I am not kicking you in the pants for that. I am kicking you in the pants for making a site that has such blatant disregard for the safety of women, that depicts women as objects to be fucked whether she cares or not, and that places male pleasure over female dignity. (this is a laymans definition of rape)

Secondly, its not my job to police the industry either but it is my job to speak out and see just how many people agree with me on the true nature of that site. Come on John... does the word ASSAULT on a sex site not conjure up images of sexual assault to you? Its becoming obvious that its not about policing the industry, its about getting you off your high horse. You actually believe that your site tour is talking about the wife or girlfriend who sleeps with you every night, who doesnt care if you partake in sex with her pussy while she is obviously not involved herself. Your tour is talking about taking sex from women who are too tired to wake up and decide/or defend themselves from their attackers.

John I dont need to convince the entire adult webmaster community, I only want to convince you to change your text. You say its about consentual wives and girlfriends yet your text says nothing like that. Your text talks about taking what they always wanted to take from a roomate. Your text talks about a stranger coming into a girls room, rummaging her stuff which is already a violation of her privacy. Your text place women on the level of "to be fucked when I want whether you like it or not, its a non-issue". What I would like is to convince you that your explanation/definition/defences of your site have nothing to do with the text on your site. Since your definition stands, let me write up some text that will clearly show that this is about a husband who takes sex from his sleeping beauty. The text can subtly show consentualism instead of what you are showing...non-consentualism.

Since these threads have finally caught your eye Jim, and I have gotten my chance to talk direct to you, this is my last post. If you wish to take me up on my offer of helping to tweak the text on the sexual assault site, please private me. Otherwise you can just choose to not answer. I am off to make my millions.

[spacemanspiff]

Stick to your guns, John. I agree with every point you made. This fucking PC world we live in these days makes me want to puke.

I'll promote the site. The girl sitting across the office from me (you met her) decided not to. No biggie. To each his own, ya know.