Greenguy & Jim's Official Rage Cash Statement

stuveltje · 2005-08-17, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Please tell me you are joking

i have to say i like the words surprise sex

....shoot me

Trixie · 2005-08-17, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stuveltje

i have to say i like the words surprise sex

....shoot me

You just awoke to find a splintered broomstick inserted in your anus . . . SURPRISE!!!

stuveltje · 2005-08-17, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trixie

You just awoke to find a splintered broomstick inserted in your anus . . . SURPRISE!!!

yeah rigth oh thats an new niche

......ewwwwwww i get better then an splintered broomstick hell where did you get your fantasies |shocking|

furrygirl · 2005-08-17, 07:56 PM

In some sense, I can appreciate sites like Little April or Meat Holes or non-consensual fantasy sites. (So long as the women know what they're getting into before hand, and are paid well.) I think it is important to have legal porn featuring consenting adults that pushes boundaries, because it's very much a free speech issue.

But, aside from philosophy, like Meat Holes and Little April, I don't think they make the collective "us" look good, and it's not the sort of thing I would want to promote. I have never believed that what is legal (or Visa-approved) dictates morality, so saying "hey, Visa's okay with it" is just an inane sig-post answer to an ethical debate.

I think lots of sites play on the elements of consent and coercion. (How how drunk girl sites? Or the whole theme of "this dumb college girl desperately needed money to pay her bills, so she agreed to suck my dick for cash"?) For example, what's the real difference between Sleep Assault's issue of consent and that on http://www.herfirstdp.com ? Quotes:

"It didn't take much convincing to get Lizzie to agree to fuck us, but she didn't realize that she was going to be our next DP conquest!! She wanted it slow at first but once she felt both rods drilling her at the same time she begged for it hard and fast!!"

"Women like to act like they don't like sex. Chrissy was no different. She had a bite like an alligator but as soon as we started talking her language -taking two cocks- she let down her guard. We had her screaming like an alley cat by the time we got done with her!"

You could argue that the Her First DP is saying that if you start doing something a woman doesn't want, she'll fuss a bit, but then be begging for more. I'm not trying to pick only on them, it's just that they also advertise here, and I've never seen any comments about their ethics.

I wanted to add after MadMax's post that I'm not trying to be a crusader for "vanilla" porn. My personal issue with these sites is not about "Do some women like to be sleep-fucked?" or "Are some women really submissives?", it's a matter of how the content is framed and pushed to the surfer. For example, one of my boys is the only guy who I'll be submissive with. We sometimes get into hair-pulling, rough behavior, "fantasy force", etc. But, if we shot photos of it, and put text with it saying that I was being raped, I wouldn't want that on my site. I'm not being raped, I'm with a very trusted partner, and I can say no at any time. (As all good kinky play goes.) When you remove the "real life boring details" of consent, trust, and personal preference, I think that's when it gets iffy in my book.

As my fellow bleeding lady Trixie said, maybe sites should post warnings, talk about BDSM rules, and have some form of responsibility to the surfer's sexual education. Yes, people do look to porn to see what to do and how to do it, for better or worse.

Cool1g · 2005-08-17, 09:36 PM

i ran across a site recently where 'supposedly' the girls were drugged with GHB or roofies or whatever and then they guys had sex with them....that seems a bit worse to me.....

susanna · 2005-08-17, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by furrygirl

As my fellow bleeding lady Trixie said, maybe sites should post warnings, talk about BDSM rules, and have some form of responsibility to the surfer's sexual education. Yes, people do look to porn to see what to do and how to do it, for better or worse.

Very nice posts ladies... I have sworn off posting this issue but I wanted to make a comment that came to mind when you said that it doesnt take much to make the site "fantasy" and even to try to educate surfers in BDSM rules etc. I am also a kinkster and the one rule that is not broken is consent, even if the consent is "do what you want to me" and very rough sex etc ensues...the difference is a submissive has a safe word and its followed and the submissive is awake and able to say no.

Now what I really wanted to say... people keep saying "if you dont like it dont look at it" so if you post the fantasy explanation or the BDSM education etc... people can choose to read it or not.

It cant hurt anything if it really is about consentual sex fantasy. Refusing to do this in the very least says it all.

Wazza · 2005-08-17, 11:41 PM

Someone from Verotel will be with you momentarily

2005-08-17, 07:56 PM	#4
furrygirl No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 281	In some sense, I can appreciate sites like Little April or Meat Holes or non-consensual fantasy sites. (So long as the women know what they're getting into before hand, and are paid well.) I think it is important to have legal porn featuring consenting adults that pushes boundaries, because it's very much a free speech issue. But, aside from philosophy, like Meat Holes and Little April, I don't think they make the collective "us" look good, and it's not the sort of thing I would want to promote. I have never believed that what is legal (or Visa-approved) dictates morality, so saying "hey, Visa's okay with it" is just an inane sig-post answer to an ethical debate. I think lots of sites play on the elements of consent and coercion. (How how drunk girl sites? Or the whole theme of "this dumb college girl desperately needed money to pay her bills, so she agreed to suck my dick for cash"?) For example, what's the real difference between Sleep Assault's issue of consent and that on http://www.herfirstdp.com ? Quotes: "It didn't take much convincing to get Lizzie to agree to fuck us, but she didn't realize that she was going to be our next DP conquest!! She wanted it slow at first but once she felt both rods drilling her at the same time she begged for it hard and fast!!" "Women like to act like they don't like sex. Chrissy was no different. She had a bite like an alligator but as soon as we started talking her language -taking two cocks- she let down her guard. We had her screaming like an alley cat by the time we got done with her!" You could argue that the Her First DP is saying that if you start doing something a woman doesn't want, she'll fuss a bit, but then be begging for more. I'm not trying to pick only on them, it's just that they also advertise here, and I've never seen any comments about their ethics. I wanted to add after MadMax's post that I'm not trying to be a crusader for "vanilla" porn. My personal issue with these sites is not about "Do some women like to be sleep-fucked?" or "Are some women really submissives?", it's a matter of how the content is framed and pushed to the surfer. For example, one of my boys is the only guy who I'll be submissive with. We sometimes get into hair-pulling, rough behavior, "fantasy force", etc. But, if we shot photos of it, and put text with it saying that I was being raped, I wouldn't want that on my site. I'm not being raped, I'm with a very trusted partner, and I can say no at any time. (As all good kinky play goes.) When you remove the "real life boring details" of consent, trust, and personal preference, I think that's when it gets iffy in my book. As my fellow bleeding lady Trixie said, maybe sites should post warnings, talk about BDSM rules, and have some form of responsibility to the surfer's sexual education. Yes, people do look to porn to see what to do and how to do it, for better or worse. __________________ furrygirl.com & vegporn.com & vegsexshop.com & eroticred.com

2005-08-17, 11:41 PM	#7
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	Someone from Verotel will be with you momentarily __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2005-08-17, 09:36 PM	#5
Cool1g Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3	i ran across a site recently where 'supposedly' the girls were drugged with GHB or roofies or whatever and then they guys had sex with them....that seems a bit worse to me.....