newbie's first site a "mess"

[Useless]

Originally Posted by beholder242

The recip table looks nasty because everyone's got their own unique, non-standard recip of varying sizes and modifying them is typically a no-no.

OK, I'm calling bullshit Most free site submitters use the text recips provided to them by the link lists. The only reason yours looks a little tacky is due to the white bgcolor. Otherwise it would look normal. It's fairly well balanced.

I'm not going to bother reviewing the rest of the site since it's obviously not a listable free site. My suggestion would be for you to first read a couple of rules pages, then surf some link lists and check out a bunch of listed free sites. That'll give you a better idea of a free site is than I can do by talking all day.

[beholder242]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

OK, I'm calling bullshit Most free site submitters use the text recips provided to them by the link lists. The only reason yours looks a little tacky is due to the white bgcolor. Otherwise it would look normal. It's fairly well balanced.

I'm not going to bother reviewing the rest of the site since it's obviously not a listable free site. My suggestion would be for you to first read a couple of rules pages, then surf some link lists and check out a bunch of listed free sites. That'll give you a better idea of a free site is than I can do by talking all day.

I'm not sure if what I'm about to write confirms or denies your first comment about free site submitters using the text recips provided, but when I went through and submitted my site, many of the link list rules said that you had to use the recips as written and modifying them could cause them to not be acknowledged by the list's spiders/robots/etc. That's why I used them as provided. I could probably rearrange the recips for a tighter table.

Here's one of the things that I'm unclear on. What qualifies as a free site? For instance, NOTHING on the domain www.filipina-fantasy.com costs anything. Heck, each girls' live chat room is free with video, until you want her to get naked, then you have to pay, but the live chat room itself and everything that happens from that point on, comes from the sponsor's server. Or does my site qualify as a pay site because at some point along the line to until the viewer reaches his ultimate gratification, there is a point that the viewer must pay something? If the second is the case, then I'd say that over 50% of the sites listing on any given link list as free are in fact pay sites, and I've looked at many link lists and the destinations of those links, beyond the ones I've listed on so far. I know I'm getting technical, but I came here for guidance and advice, so....

[MrYum]

There have been a few threads on this board regarding recips and slight alterations thereto. I don't recall a single link list that was averse to changes, as long as anchor text/title tags(if used) remained intact. Someone please jump in here if I'm mis-remembering those threads.

I know what you're saying about the java script. But, the thing is...if the link site wanted to provide that content, they could just as easily sign up and use the same java script on their own pages.

The basic relationship between a free site submitter and a link list is the free site submitter provides content for the link list. The link list provides traffic in return.

Your site as it stands now really doesn't provide any content to the link list. All it does provide is sponsor links that again, the link list could easily provide themselves and keep any revenue generated.

If I were you and wanted to pursue this site as it is...I'd build small 20 or 30 pic feeder sites in sub-directories on the same domain...perhaps one for each girl. These feeder sites would be submitted to the link lists. You could use a link or two on these feeder sites back to the main site as a hub. This would provide some extra linkage to the root of the site and eventually some se traffic.

But, as the sites stands now...I think you're going to have a hard time getting it listed as a 'free site'. Because, the only free content provided isn't really even on the site

Forgot to mention...

Regarding your comments about sites with pics linking to sponsors and such. That's one of many things list lists deal with on a daily basis. Believe it or not, there are cheaters out there that change sites after they've been accepted by the link lists. Shocking I know! Cocksuckers

Some link list scripts are more adept than others at catching the assclowns. Some are not, so you very well may see sites listed that don't comply with the rules.

[Useless]

Here's a simple description of a basic free site:

Index page - Title, warning, up to 3 links out to sponsor or hub, enter link to main page.

Main page - Title, up to 3 links out, links to gallery pages.

Gallery page - Title, 10-15 thumbs linked to full sized pics, up to 3 links out.

Most free sites have 2 gallery pages, some have three. Do not go over three. You don't have to have the title printed on each page, but I personally like to see it. Keep the same style/aesthetic throughout the site. Do not put a free site on the root of your domain. Put it in a subdirectory (not subdomain), that way you can put many free sites on a single domain.