Katrina aftermath - what the fuck???

emmanuelle · 2005-09-01, 08:29 PM

The south will rise again, just like Atlanta.
Southerners are incredibly proud and independant

Hurricanes Cindy and Dennis were expected to be severe, and did not live up to their hype. When the warnings came for Katrina, they were not taken seriously enough.

Forget about racism, who is at fault and everything else that armchair analysts seem to be preoccupied with. Get yourself over to the redcross site and see what you can do to be part of the solution. Hundreds of thousands of people have been affected in that region alone, not to mention the entire continent's economy.

Everyone joined together when 9-11 happened, and even for the tsunami crisis. America needs to pull itself together again for one of it's own. The longer we argue and delay help, the more people who die.

Bill · 2005-09-01, 08:49 PM

I think it's absolutely a political issue. And it will become hugely more so as the repercussions of this event unfold.

People have known NO was a disaster waiting to happen for a long, long time.

But, there will be time enough for the politics of this in the future. Investigations will tell us a great deal.

It's going to be a hellish night for those folks. Hopefully tomorrow the relief trucks will arrive.

CaptainJSparrow · 2005-09-04, 11:21 PM

One more thing, word around here is that Fats Domino is staying at Jamarcus Russell's (the quarterback for LSU) place. Not sure if it's true or not, but I think that it is.

Lemmy · 2005-09-04, 11:41 PM

First of all, I'm glad the board members are safe.

I can't respond to everything you said, it's too late and I'm tired, but fuck man you're heartless. They're too dumb to get out, so it serves them right?

Regarding your big brother comment, you can and should have it "both ways". The reason governments are created in the first place (in democracies) is to provide basic safety for the citizens, but at the same time stay out of or private affairs. Hurricane relief seems like a prime example of what any self-respecting government should provide.

Dr Bizzaro · 2005-09-09, 08:48 AM

Who said Bush cut his vacation 2 days short due to the Katrina?

docholly · 2005-09-09, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Bizzaro

Who said Bush cut his vacation 2 days short due to the Katrina?

something consistant about that elite club that includes Nero fiddling, Cake eating Marie Antoinette and George reading er fishing..

Halfdeck · 2005-09-02, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by emmanuelle

The south will rise again, just like Atlanta.
Southerners are incredibly proud and independant

Hurricanes Cindy and Dennis were expected to be severe, and did not live up to their hype. When the warnings came for Katrina, they were not taken seriously enough.

Forget about racism, who is at fault and everything else that armchair analysts seem to be preoccupied with. Get yourself over to the redcross site and see what you can do to be part of the solution. Hundreds of thousands of people have been affected in that region alone, not to mention the entire continent's economy.

Everyone joined together when 9-11 happened, and even for the tsunami crisis. America needs to pull itself together again for one of it's own. The longer we argue and delay help, the more people who die.

Well said. I admit I'm not overly charitable by nature, but I cruised on over to redcross.org and donated after reading your post.

Useless · 2005-09-02, 01:25 AM

The more I watch the coverage, the more it saddens me to see that our government is, for all intents and purposes, allowing people to starve and to die from dehydration. This is one sorry state of affairs. You cannot tell me that there is no way to reach these people. If a damned news crew can film them, then why can't the national guard get in there with food and water? It's sad that it requires armed people to restore order, but that's what happens when you allow people to feel abandoned. Mob rules will always take over in the absense of authority.

spookyx · 2005-09-02, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

The more I watch the coverage, the more it saddens me to see that our government is, for all intents and purposes, allowing people to starve and to die from dehydration. This is one sorry state of affairs. You cannot tell me that there is no way to reach these people. If a damned news crew can film them, then why can't the national guard get in there with food and water? It's sad that it requires armed people to restore order, but that's what happens when you allow people to feel abandoned. Mob rules will always take over in the absense of authority.

so true UW. and about the guns... if my family was stuck and starving, I would prolly grab one too.

Kinky · 2005-09-02, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

The more I watch the coverage, the more it saddens me to see that our government is, for all intents and purposes, allowing people to starve and to die from dehydration. This is one sorry state of affairs. You cannot tell me that there is no way to reach these people. If a damned news crew can film them, then why can't the national guard get in there with food and water? It's sad that it requires armed people to restore order, but that's what happens when you allow people to feel abandoned. Mob rules will always take over in the absense of authority.

one reason is that most of our national guard is in Iraq fighting for "freedom" and dubya isn't smart enough to figure out where to get the manpower to help...

it was also nice to see him take a low pass real quick over in air force one to check the damage instead of actually giving two shits and getting in a chopper and visiting the damaged area... so many people said he was "a great leader" after 9/11 well what the fuck happened? he is a friggin' retard with a perma smirk

Tubey · 2005-09-02, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kinky

one reason is that most of our national guard is in Iraq fighting for "freedom" and dubya isn't smart enough to figure out where to get the manpower to help...

it was also nice to see him take a low pass real quick over in air force one to check the damage instead of actually giving two shits and getting in a chopper and visiting the damaged area... so many people said he was "a great leader" after 9/11 well what the fuck happened? he is a friggin' retard with a perma smirk

It is taking longer than it should but you just can't send in 30k troops onto bourbon st, you have to know where to send them to make them effective. The devastation doesn't just start at NO either most of the roads are AFU to get them there. It does take a little time to get the troops called in and loaded up planned out as far as where they are going to sleep and how they are going to get fed as well. The airport is being used to stage rescue ops of the living if the pres stopped there it would hault operations (due to security reasons) for hours while he was there and I don't believe anyone would like to stop rescue ops so I believe he made the right choice not to stop in and take a peek. Tues the Coast Guard alone did over 1700 rescue missions not including the other branches of the service. In short the whole area is a mess and it is a HUGE mess. Roads are destroyed bridges out, people shooting, looting, and running around like crazy. I think this is the first time since the civil war that an entire city was ever evacuated.
I think we should figure out how to fix the problem not who to blame.
Just my $.02

Trev · 2005-09-02, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kinky

one reason is that most of our national guard is in Iraq fighting for "freedom" and dubya isn't smart enough to figure out where to get the manpower to help...

Exactly. I heard they were calling up Coast Guard reserves. Even that takes time. They have a huge hospital ship coming. From Baltimore.................... it should be there in 3-4 days. Everything should be there in 2-4 days..... but meanwhile.......

2005-09-04, 11:41 PM	#4
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	First of all, I'm glad the board members are safe. I can't respond to everything you said, it's too late and I'm tired, but fuck man you're heartless. They're too dumb to get out, so it serves them right? Regarding your big brother comment, you can and should have it "both ways". The reason governments are created in the first place (in democracies) is to provide basic safety for the citizens, but at the same time stay out of or private affairs. Hurricane relief seems like a prime example of what any self-respecting government should provide. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2005-09-02, 01:25 AM	#8
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	The more I watch the coverage, the more it saddens me to see that our government is, for all intents and purposes, allowing people to starve and to die from dehydration. This is one sorry state of affairs. You cannot tell me that there is no way to reach these people. If a damned news crew can film them, then why can't the national guard get in there with food and water? It's sad that it requires armed people to restore order, but that's what happens when you allow people to feel abandoned. Mob rules will always take over in the absense of authority. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-09-01, 08:29 PM	#1
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	The south will rise again, just like Atlanta. Southerners are incredibly proud and independant Hurricanes Cindy and Dennis were expected to be severe, and did not live up to their hype. When the warnings came for Katrina, they were not taken seriously enough. Forget about racism, who is at fault and everything else that armchair analysts seem to be preoccupied with. Get yourself over to the redcross site and see what you can do to be part of the solution. Hundreds of thousands of people have been affected in that region alone, not to mention the entire continent's economy. Everyone joined together when 9-11 happened, and even for the tsunami crisis. America needs to pull itself together again for one of it's own. The longer we argue and delay help, the more people who die.

2005-09-01, 08:49 PM	#2
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	I think it's absolutely a political issue. And it will become hugely more so as the repercussions of this event unfold. People have known NO was a disaster waiting to happen for a long, long time. But, there will be time enough for the politics of this in the future. Investigations will tell us a great deal. It's going to be a hellish night for those folks. Hopefully tomorrow the relief trucks will arrive.

2005-09-04, 11:21 PM	#3
CaptainJSparrow You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 511	One more thing, word around here is that Fats Domino is staying at Jamarcus Russell's (the quarterback for LSU) place. Not sure if it's true or not, but I think that it is.