Florida's new gun laws

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by Cleo

South Florida has multiple shootings ever day already.
I myself have been a shooting victim.
These new laws are just so fucked up.

Sub Titled: Guns Don't Kill People. Bullets Do!

First off... Cleo, I'm very sorry for your experience, I know it must have been terrifying and you have every reason to hate the idea of guns everywhere. I have more than a few acquaintances that have been shot, and even killed (I'm in Chicago now, lots of gangs, lots of guns) and I dated an ER doctor so I know the trouble that a gunshot causes all the way up and down a family line. I am very sympathetic to your feelings. I just wanted to say that first so that my comments below don't seem callous.

If I could just say one thing about this and Florida (I'm really only just trying to add to my post totals really quick). I'm originally from Florida and it is a fabulous place to go and have fun especially on the Gulf Coast.

The gun thing isn't as big a deal as all the press made it out to be. Yeah, its a little extreme on the concealed side but not for Floridians. The reason is that everyone already had a gun anyway and most carried it. Most jurisdictions just required that the clip not be in it when you transport and it wasn't uncommon at all to see shop owners, etc. walking around strapped. The first thing you did when you got pulled over for speeding or whatever is say "hello officer, just want to let you know I have 9mm Gat in the glovebox and cruise missle in the trunk". He'd go "Oh' ok thanks for letting me know. Insurance and registration please". There is a gun shop in almost every strip mall up and down the trail. The funny affect that it has is that usually everyone is immensely polite to everyone else and you never have an argument at a four way stop sign. |blowkiss|

Criminals... that's another matter and no law will ever really change that though the feds are trying with extremely long sentences for felons that use a gun in commission of a crime AND they are really starting to prosecute them in bulk.

[Wazza]

You gun nuts just don't get it... come to a place where basically no one owns or has access to a gun and you'll get it eventually

Look at the statistics - the causes of death - the homicide rates - and you might get it

Yes murder and crime is a part of a big matrix of causes and counter balances - we've got social problems too - but when someone cracks they generally don't have a lethal weapon at their side...

[porndragon]

Originally Posted by Wazza

You gun nuts just don't get it... come to a place where basically no one owns or has access to a gun and you'll get it eventually

Look at the statistics - the causes of death - the homicide rates - and you might get it

Yes murder and crime is a part of a big matrix of causes and counter balances - we've got social problems too - but when someone cracks they generally don't have a lethal weapon at their side...

Everyone almost in my redneck state of WV has a gun and only shootings to take place in my town was 1 guy sdhot another in self defense now the second shooting was the same guy only this time with the cops as his target not uncommon here to see gun racks in trucks and hear shooting all hours of the night but hardly anyone hurt and noone died in either shooting. Also mine is a state where you drive a backroad in hunting season and see 10 hunters per every 10 miles walking with A 30.0.6 over their shoulder and noone is dead.. Also refuse to see where the statistics you reffer to lay california is one of the toughest countries on gun laws something like 37 pages in my book i think and has one of the highest homicide rates and gang violence rates in the country..

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by porndragon

Everyone almost in my redneck state of WV has a gun and only shootings to take place in my town was 1 guy sdhot another in self defense now the second shooting was the same guy only this time with the cops as his target not uncommon here to see gun racks in trucks and hear shooting all hours of the night but hardly anyone hurt and noone died in either shooting. Also mine is a state where you drive a backroad in hunting season and see 10 hunters per every 10 miles walking with A 30.0.6 over their shoulder and noone is dead.. Also refuse to see where the statistics you reffer to lay california is one of the toughest countries on gun laws something like 37 pages in my book i think and has one of the highest homicide rates and gang violence rates in the country..

You have your facts all screwed up. For one thing Wazza isn't from California. For another not everyone is as gun crazed as you.

[porndragon]

Originally Posted by Surfn

You have your facts all screwed up. For one thing Wazza isn't from California. For another not everyone is as gun crazed as you.

I never said he was from cali he said take a look and go somewhere where not everyone owned a gun well cali is the toughest anti gunner in the country called komiefornia by the pro gunners thought I would start there. What pisses me off isn't the fact that not everyone is gun crazed it's the fact that the anti gunners bitch and whine til they get laws passed to get rid of guns which limits my collection and the pro gun side doesn't do anything to hamper their choice of not owning a gun to each his own but pisses me off when other people have to whine like 2 year olds to affect my life without my ok or say so..

[Surfn]

My girlfriend server her internship as an ER doctor. She and I (I would stop by an visit her) have seen far too may innocent children shot and killed. Both accidentally and intentionally.


There is absolutely no reason for guns other than to hurt, maim, or kill.

[porndragon]

Originally Posted by Surfn

My girlfriend server her internship as an ER doctor. She and I (I would stop by an visit her) have seen far too may innocent children shot and killed. Both accidentally and intentionally.


There is absolutely no reason for guns other than to hurt, maim, or kill.

I got one hell of a debate going on here now can't answer em as fast as they are comming at me K simple fact is and this is simple once again you would like to ban guns well many in the US would however for it to work the world would have to otherwise all the bin ladens of the world would have an open door.. Now saying the whole world would have to is a lil far fetched why? well nuclear weapons we can't even agree on getting rid of them and hmm let's see guns kill how many people a day? Nukes kill how many a second when launched should tip the scale work on getting rid of nukes first then I will hear yelling about guns also a ban would never work because it is to easy to make a firearm everyone knows how gun powder easy to make coal dust sulfur and i will leave the last 1 up to you to guess but mix it put it in a hollow tree even light it and bam gun or bomb either one guns once unleashed cannot be taken back...